GOD EXISTS! (proof)

[datasuspect]

excerpt: ""I had no control over my own car," she said. "It just makes me know that God is truly with us in our mourning, sorrow and trials, and this is proof he is truly with you. There is a God, and he does exist.""

full story: http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/199071-8244-092.html

[Ian David]

1. Maybe she was in on it to beign with

[Walt Starr]

2. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

That's about the most fallacious "proof" I've seen to date!

I haven;t laughed this hard in decades!

[bloom]

3. It is an odd story, actually....eom

[bzmtq5]

4. Interview with the Devil

Since I'm too new to be allowed to post a new topic yet, this seems like a good spot to drop this in......

Click below to see the latest movie from CryofTheSpirit.com called Interview with the Devil.

Interview with the Devil

Roger
By definition, it is absolutely true that Truth is absolute and the Truth we know sets us free.

[shadowknows69]

36. wow

that was a long trip for an obvious (although i'd hoped it wouldn't be) conclusion.

[bzmtq5]

47. Life is and isn't a long trip

Perception is frequently not reality...

[shadowknows69]

49. been there, done that, bought the t-shirt

and read the bible cover to cover a couple times so don't bother man.

[alittlelark]

57. It was somewhat interesting till it got to homosexuality

-nice casual implications, and not needing to love other nations, only 'your neighbor'.

Religious propaganda

[Wickerman]

5. The skeptic in me says she knew some way she couldn't devulge

who the perp was. This story works fine. Glad he was caught.

[uberotto]

6. God proves he doesn't exist...

"I refuse to prove that I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you do exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

[Hard_Work]

39. Another Douglas Adams

fan, eh? Good stuff.

[bzmtq5]

48. If there were no God...

"If there were no God, there would be no atheists." - Where All Roads Lead, 1922

[patdem]

7. I do not think of it as some Christian God..but more the universal

knowledge that does exist. Like the amazing fact that fire was discovered by many people over the earth at about the same time!!!

Anyway..I had a similar experience. After my sister lost her 17 year old daughter to an auto accident, I for some reason stopped at a grocery store I NEVER stopped at, because I had to make a U-Turn to get into the lot. Anyway, I purchased a bunch of B'day cards for my sisters family. Her birthday was less than a month away. (My b'day is 9/14, her's is 9/26) I picked up a card, put it back, got another and started to walk away, went back, picked up the card again, put it back, picked it back up. Anyway, I mailed her the birthday card and when my mother returned she had in her suitcase the birthday card my sister had bought for me...it was the EXACT SAME CARD....!!!!!

My sister asked, well, why didn't she put the card back like I did, and my only answer was she KNEW her daughter's voice and I did not recognize it...but it was VERY powerful!!!!

[patdem]

9. An even more interesting 'coincendence' prior to my niece's death

I met a man whom I was attracted to and he and I spent much time together, and one night I had an anxiety attack and asked if he would spend the night with me and we slept together and never had sex..he begged forgiveness for any errant hard on's..and I was very turned on, but sex never ensued...

Well, he introduced me to a book called "Life after Life"...which I purchased and took to my sister when I went to Florida for the funeral. She said that book helped her through the whole ordeal more than any words of condolence any one spoke!!!

I never saw that man again!

[CrispyQ]

8. Years ago I worked with a woman whom I overheard saying . . .

"Since 95% of the people belive in God, then it's only logical to assume that God exists." I had to leave the breakroom I was laughing so hard.

[Hand]

11. That explains a lot...

Such as why we KNOW that Iraq had WMDs.

:puke:

[Getchasome]

14. Since when does popular vote equal truth?

[Endangered Specie]

29. bullshit

That 95% figure is WRONG.

Many believe in more than one God(ess)
Many believe God(s)(es)(ess) take different forms and ways of existing and have different role(s) and power(s)
Alot of people aren't sure/don't care

Only if you lump all those people together and you might aprroach 90-95%. But too many people are busy starving because of "God's people".

"Yeah and at one point in time almost all of Germany believed in Hitler, that make it a good idea?" - My usual response to that :evilgrin:

[noshenanigans]

10. I'm glad the guy was caught but..

A mother, understandably distraught at the death of her son, is overcome while listening to holiday music on the car stereo. She is probably crying and not focusing and her instinct tells her to get off the road.

She does, still overcome with emotion. She has spent the longest time trying to make sense of this tragedy and knows what the witnesses have said. She has probably mulled it over a thousand times and her attention is pulled by any white van/suv that goes by

While she is pulled over at the side of the road, the white van goes by and it looks like, well, a van. She is still overcome and she follows her gut feeling. Fortunately, she was right.

She was also lucky.

If her faith gets her through it, more power to her, but this ain't proof of anything other than if you hit someone in your car and run off, don't continue driving the car around town.

[rniel]

12. nevermind

n/m

[Xipe Totec]

13. Non-existence. Proof By Babel Fish

The Babel fish, said The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy quietly, is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy not from its carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglinglyly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

"The argument goes something like this: ‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’

"‘But,’ says Man, ‘The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’

"‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanished in a puff of logic."

- Douglas Adams, "The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy:

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. "...promptly vanished in a puff of logic."

LOL!

[shadowknows69]

50. they'd better not f*ck the movie up

:thumbsup: don't panic

[semillama]

54. I think Dirk Gently has a position for this woman.

n/t

[HereSince1628]

15. Proof that statistically outlying events actually happen...

The god she proved exists is Alpha, the goddess of Outliers, she governs a universe in which the unlikely, which probably shouldn't have happened, actually did.

[mmonk]

16. I sure am glad

God is a he.

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. God led her to the truck, but couldn't keep the kid from getting

run over.

When a good coincidence happens, it's god. What bad happens, it's just bad luck.

[livinginphotographs]

19. Well said.

n/t

[datasuspect]

20. god get all the credit, none of the blame

when something good happens, this is proof of his grace and love, when bad things happen, it's because of our free will, which he gave us anyway.

[bloom]

22. Some people call catastrophes "Acts of God"

I think it's disgusting.

[Endangered Specie]

26. Very good point, nicely summed up, except...

bad is often blamed on the devil too.

[Kber]

55. Yeah, I have trouble believing that God would, say, interveve

in the MSU, Ohio State football game but miss the Holocaust.

I really don't think it works this way and believing it does, at it's logical conclusion, requires you to either re-evaluate God's place in the universe (and ours) or embrace athiesm. Otherwise you must believe in a diety who is both arbitrary and just, which I can't quit get my head around.

[livinginphotographs]

18. People who say, "that just can't be a coincidence"

don't seem to understand the definition of "coincidence."

Although, if she thinks god guided her to the van, and that makes her feel better, more power to her.

[noshenanigans]

21. Even more proof

After my last post I started thinking about this some more- I have, in the past year, had a number of people tell me that my life is "proof God has a plan for me".

Here's why:

Last year I was hit head-on by a car out of nowhere and almost died. I was in a wheelchair for a long time and had to be moved back with my parents where they live in North Carolina (from where I was in California) because I couldn't physically move my right limbs.

Three months after the accident, my mom was diagnosed with cancer. Since I am still here recovering I've been able to be around for her.

Hence, my accident happened for a reason! I almost died for a reason! How fortunate am I that the Almighty's grand, glorious plan for my life included seeing the grill of an SUV close-up! Especially since this was able to coincide with the glorious plan for my mom- that of course being a terminal disease.

I hate to sound so cynical, but there ya go.

[datasuspect]

24. "everything happens for a reason"

i hate that saying, because it communicates very little in the way of any actual idea.

sure things happen for a reason.

if i take this apple and drop it to the ground, the reason it falls is gravity, or maybe me deciding to drop it.

point is, things happen for a reason, but 90% of the time, the reasons are actually mundane and not filled with supernatural bullshit.

[killbotfactory]

23. God sure likes to fuck with us. First he has her son killed, then he..

exposes the killer.

He must be bored or something.

[datasuspect]

27. if there is a god,

he sure is a bastard.

why would i want to love someone who threatens to banish my soul to hell for some eternal torment just because i don't believe in him?

god wants your love and belief, but won't be honest enough to show himself, then punishes you for questioning if he's actually there.

sounds really passive aggressive to me.

god is a lot like an alcoholic father.

[Getchasome]

31. If God "wants" your love

isn't that proof enough that he doesn't exist? Why would an all perfect being "want" or "need" anything? To "Want" or "need" means you can lack, and lacking means you're not perfect, and if you're not a perfect being than a very strong argument can be made that you don't exist at all.

[killbotfactory]

33. God is a rat bastard who hired a good ad agency

I think it's the same firm who works for Walmart.

[datasuspect]

34. if it does turn out

that i am wrong about everything and i end up at the pearly gates, i'll give st. peter a hearty "fuck you" and ask to speak to his boss.

there's too many christians in heaven anyway, i sure as hell can't stand them in my mortal life, let alone spending eternity with them.

[trotsky]

52. Amen, brother!

there's too many christians in heaven anyway, i sure as hell can't stand them in my mortal life, let alone spending eternity with them.

LOL

[Buck Rabbit]

51. I demand that my dog worship me as her God, and she does ...

However I scoop my cats shit out of a box and comply with his every demand as we had a talk and I don't want to come back in the next life as a scratching post.

[killbotfactory]

32. absolute power corrupts absolutely

God is absolutely corrupt

[JitterbugPerfume]

35. years ago

when my son was in an accident that landed him in a nursing home for ten years I was told that

it was gods will

god works in mysterious ways

and

god has a plan for our lives

i am now an athiest

any questions?

[Endangered Specie]

25. Too bad God didn't save her son...

mighty selective about these things ain't He? :eyes:

[Democracy Died 2004]

30. Of course gawd exists

man created him.

[mr_anderson334]

41. god

(these are not from christian nuts but nice people who arent fanatics)


i once heard a story that goes like this

you were walking in a cavern and some rocks fell and spelled out the word hello you walk along and once again rocks fall and spell out the word hello so you keep walking and then a third time rocks fall and spell out hello would you then belive there was a god

someything like that i guess its supposed to resemblew the creating of the world and other thigs that happened

another argument i have heard

is that once humans lived in caves and bears lived in caves, and nowe bears still livew in caves but humans live in advanced cities.

apparently this is supposed to signify that humans are instilled with the "divine presence"

just wondering what your response is to this

[Democracy Died 2004]

42. I guess i would just

find a hardhat so i don't get smacked in the head by falling rocks.

[shadowknows69]

37. I find it sad

that this woman finds it impossible to believe that it could've been some inate ability within herself that lead her to this place. Granted divinely granted gifts but ones I feel we all possess and shouldn't deny. That is the true way to evolve the human race and not just get it ready for some mythological judgement day.

[clutchcargo]

38. GOD

JUST AS THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD CANNOT PRESENT PROOF POSITIVE OF HIS EXISTENCE--NEITHER CAN THE OTHER SIDE PROVE HIM NOT TO EXIST-----I DO KNOW THAT SOME THE THE VITRIOLIC HATRED I SEE ON SOME OF OUR POST HERE CAN ONLY TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM OUR AIM OF TAKING BACK THE WHITE HOUSE AND CONGRESS--WE NEED SOME OF THOSE RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE VOTERS TO WIN

[datasuspect]

40. hate

you know what i hate?

people who type all in caps and overuse the word "vitriolic."

[The Revolution]

43. A little Internet etiquette

Typing in all caps is considered the same as yelling. Don't do it unless you want people to think you're screaming in their face.

[trotsky]

53. Hey, why don't you prove there AREN'T invisible elephants on my lawn?

Go ahead. Try it!

[superconnected]

44. Thank you clutchcargo

so true.

[Johonny]

45. Why?

Why do some people here assume she is right and this is the right person? Does the arrest of Israel Cardenas mean he IS guilty? Could it be that the police have arrest the wrong person? Sure get the feeling Israel has little chance in court once the God lead me too him testimony gets out.

[superconnected]

46. Attributing it to God

is her interpretation. Many people have things happen and attribute them to being in tune, karma, 6th sense or whatever.

Wether she is right or not, who knows. I doubt a judge will base his decisions on her attributing it to "God". Unless GW selected him, that is...

[TrogL]

56. If she can't control the car, she shouldn't be driving