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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:01 PM
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When we get back in power, should we use the Patriot Act against Repigs?
I would. In a New York second.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:04 PM
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1. NO
There are plenty of laws to deal with them (RICO anybody)

the USPA has to be REPEALED in toto, when we get power... it is an attack on the bill of Rights...
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:05 PM
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2. What?!?
If Dems get back in power they should dismantle the Patriot Act in a New York second!!

Geesh! Using it against them makes Dems NO BETTER. VERY HYPOCRITICAL!

Standards? Ethics? Does anybody have those anymore?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:05 PM
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3. Call up Michelle Malkin, and intern them all.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 08:06 PM by BlueEyedSon
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:06 PM
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4. No
Then there really will be no difference between them and us.

I want the fascists out. Not replaced by new fascists.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:07 PM
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5. That explains why we always lose.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:09 PM
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7. If "we" use the patriot act for political retribution,
then we are them, and "WE will have already lost.









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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:23 PM
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10. While you are at it
you want to dismantle the US Constitution and get rid FULLY of the Bill of Rights?

Is this what you stand for?
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:08 PM
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6. We wont be seeing power ever again.
I am not certain "we" ever had any to start with but we wont be accumulating anymore in the foreseeable future. I am surprised people still speak in those kinds of rosy terms.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:10 PM
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8. As long as they control the mechanisms of voting,
we're never going to get back into power.

These pricks will do whatever it takes to see that there's no paper trail in any election held in this country.

And the corporations that program the voting machines will go their merry way with no one able to prove exactly how much we are being fucked time and time again. Can we all spell f-a-c-i-s-m?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:15 PM
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9. Hmn -- reminds me of that Ray Bradbury story
Can't think of the title now (am an hour into happy hour!).

You guys know the one.

Somebody help me out, here.

(I think it was Ray Bradbury.)
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:29 PM
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11. An attitude with an ignoble history
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 08:36 PM by Zensea
The revolution in Russia ended up creating something worse than what it replaced.

The revolution in France...

One tyranny replaced by another.

Not a place I want to go.

If "we" have the attitude that when we get back in power we're going to treat our opponents the way we object to them treating us, then they are perfectly justified in treating us the way they do now or that we claim they do.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 10:40 PM
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12. NO "we" shouldn't
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 10:40 PM by stavka
That would be like herding german children into a gas chamber or before a firing squad...

If we are willing to abandon a real moral high ground, than we should stop acting like we own it -or- advise those of us who are not willing to abandon it to get out of the way, and now know that they have one other enemy to fight.....
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lgardengate Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:03 PM
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13. No, PA should be repealed.
And we should never sink that low.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:52 PM
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14. I, personally, would use everything available to me. But that's just me.
Doesn't mean it would be right.

But THEY have changed the rules of the game.

The wimp party - oh, excuse me - "democratic" party - would never do it - and they will probably never win anything again until people demand justice and fair play.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:07 AM
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15. Short answer yes - long answer...
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 12:12 AM by ReadTomPaine
I wrote a series of proposals pre-election for what should be done to lock the GOP back in the basement of American politics should Kerry win. Among the details was invoking the Patriot Act. Give it a read, I think this is the sort of thing you were looking for. There are ways to invoke the PA that will both punish the RW & MSM while at the same time discrediting this law to the point of repeal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2500873

RTP
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:22 AM
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16. www.dirtyrepublicans.com
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 12:22 AM by shadowknows69
at the very least take their computers and servers. I'b be interested to know how many uber-moral repubs surf transexual porn daily.
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