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Thu Dec-02-04 08:14 PM
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Jesse Jackson on Paula Zahn criticizing Kerry (CNN) |
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He's explaining the "betrayed the trust of the voters" line.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:16 PM
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Jesse Jackson has no room to talk. He was never really behind Kerry until the end anyway.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:23 PM
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2. It's good he is critcal of Kerry that's what sets us apart. If there |
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is truth and merit to it then we should all welcome it from the people we have out front unlike the Bushes who all talk the same and never have a critic thought come into their head.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:55 PM
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need to all talk the same and walk the same, but to be this critical already is wrong. Its not like Kerry ever came out and was publicly critical of Jesse Jackson when he was caught in his affair. We can disagree all we want privately, but when in public we should present a united front.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:11 PM
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6. A united front saying what? "Kerry Lost?" |
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Kerry conceded too soon and now he looks like the biggest flipflopper ever if he unconcedes.
Also, he lied and said he wouldn't concede until every vote was counted and then he did.
Jesse Jackson has every reason to criticize Kerry. So do all of us.
Kerry wasn't prepared for fraud? What kind of idiot is he, if that is true?
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:19 AM
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First, Jesse wasn't "caught in his affair." It was revealed that he was paying support for a child. Of course Kerrydidn't base his campaign on Jesse having a child out of wedlock .... that would be a republican type of issue.
Regarding your "united front" belief, would that mean that you have proof that what Jesse is doing goes directly against John Kerry's wishes? Please share that with us all. Maybe you should let the Kerry people know that, too.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:43 PM
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I was never a Kerry fan but when he ended up being my candidate I supported him. Then he abandoned us 1 day after the election.
Kerry can kiss my white ass.
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Thu Dec-02-04 10:36 PM
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8. Hey, was never behind Kerry either.... |
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He got my vote, and he was my candidate until he VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ - I immediately jumped ship -
But, the party and DNC made him our candidate - so I worked for him, I gave money....
My point? - don't get all down on the Rev. Jackson over it.
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:00 AM
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9. Jackson is only doing what many--or most--of us did: |
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criticizing the premature concession. Even if you disagree, Jackson is entitled to his opinion. No Bush-style loyalty oaths are desired here.
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:14 AM
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Please list the top ten reasons you have for saying that. Wait, let's cut it to five.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:24 PM
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3. If Jackson is criticizing, not a good sign. |
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for Kerry and bailing out so early.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:37 PM
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7. You guys are sure mean spirited.,, |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:37 PM by politicasista
Had Kerry won, we wouldn't be having this discussion I guess.:( I know Jesse loves Clinton too.
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:12 AM
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10. Does anyone else think this is a calculated move on JJ's part to get Kerry |
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to unconcede? It's stage managed is all. Jesse starts the criticism, evidence mounts and looks like Kerry was wrong to concede, more criticism and people begging Kerry to come into the fight, and then he unconcedes due to will of the people, critics who are right in criticizing the early concession, and of course the data and evidence that proves he won. It's all going to plan to make Kerry look presidential and just responding to facts and voters wishes. Of course I could just be kidding myself but I plan to do so up to January 20th and then it's all about impeachment from there.
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:34 AM
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I agree and top it off with impeachment. Caller this morning on C-span felt the betrayal of Kerry and brought up the skull and bones. Lamb couldn't believe how Kerry could have played this all out and then stepped aside. To early, I guess to tell, but at the same time, the clock is ticking. Kerry better pull his head out soon.
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Fri Dec-03-04 10:24 AM
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14. Public Criticism is NOT |
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going to accomplish your scenario. Jackson would be better off stating the obvious: that it takes TIME to uncover and firm-up incontovertible evidence of the kind of fraud that was carried out. A concession, especially one that was based on the way things appeared to be on 11/3, is totally irrelevant and is not legally binding.
When a thief robs a bank and the loot is found later - the thief doesn't get to keep it - it's returned to the bank. No matter how long it takes, even if we are two years into the next horrendous BushCo term - when the evidence proves to be conclusive, which I think will happen - we will have to be prepared to go in the streets and shut everything down while we drag Cheney and Bush out of our White House by their heels if they refuse to give up what they stole.
Then we can hold the real inauguration.
The concession was the right thing to do, at the time. It would have been a huge mistake, strategically, for Kerry to not concede and hang out in public crossing his fingers and hoping that firm evidence would eventually be produced when he, as a prosecutor, knows very well just how long that can take. He would have become the issue - precluding any ability to develop the evidence of fraud and get the facts out to the people.
Think about it - had Kerry not conceded, we'd be sitting here today complaining "he's selfish, his prominence is getting in the way of uncovering the evidence, this isn't about him, he has created a losing firestorm with his pathetic hanging on by one fingernail, why doesn't he just go away so we can do our investigations without this unnecessary and destructive distraction?" yada yada
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