NNguyenMD
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:43 AM
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does anyone know why freepers think deficits don't matter anymore? |
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:44 AM
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1. Because it's the party line |
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Fri Dec-03-04 03:03 AM
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:44 AM
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2. Well, since I have read the DSM-IV twice... |
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Schizophrenia most foul comes readily to mind.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:44 AM
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3. Because the children will be paying it off... |
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not themselves...thats why they don't care. Its all about the short term to them.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:46 AM
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Because after they've been Raptured, they won't have to pay -- the rest of us infidels will.
No, I am not kidding on this. That's what many of them think.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:47 AM
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5. Some think the Apocalypse will come. |
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Who's going to collect on a debt during an apocalypse, now really?
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:48 AM
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6. Because it's their guy running them up |
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and they're flaming hypocrites.
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Fri Dec-03-04 08:36 AM
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If a Dem was in office, right-wing pundits would be SCREAMING about the deficit every day predicting an economic apocalypse.
But since it's their guy, deficits don't matter.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:50 AM
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7. There is no Ross Perot taking votes away from them. |
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:53 AM
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8. Because Raygun did it too, and the economy didn't quite collapse. |
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Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 12:54 AM by DireStrike
We just had the 80s. Yay.
Besides, Raygun is a holy man. He killed over a million commies and tore apart the iron curtain with his bare hands.
edit: yes, he killed the commies with his bare hands too.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:53 AM
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9. They want the government to go bankrupt |
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They want the government to go bankrupt so that the government will no longer be able to pay for social programs and entitlements. In their terminology, they want to "starve the beast." The plan would leave the government in the future paying for defense and interest on it's debt.
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Fri Dec-03-04 12:58 AM
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10. The 'knowlegeable' ones, yes, that is true |
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That's what their ideology tells them and if those cursed liberals would just get out of their way and let them do it...The rest don't know their economic asses from a hole in the ground and agree with whatever Rush tells them.
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Fri Dec-03-04 02:26 AM
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fuck 9/11, fuck Social Security and Medicare, and fuck the War in Iraq!!!
most Repukes only care about themselves, and don't give a shit about their country or anyone else. Others do care, but have fooled themselves into believing Bush is some kind of compassionate religious conservative.
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Fri Dec-03-04 01:01 AM
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11. From Ronnie to King G the first |
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deficits were no big deal. Then Bill puts his hand on the book and deficits are so important the GOPhers want to amend the constitution requiring a balanced budget. It's all about power. Who's got it. Who's gonna dole out the goodies. The hell with tomorrow. Get it while there's some to get. It's the American Way. It's Moral Values. It's a credit card with the due bill coming at an unknown date. Bail out another industry. Give a few billion to the good ol boys in the private security biz to string up some electrodes. Tens of billions to the pharma guys where Rummy used to toil. A few hundred billion to the arms merchants. It's Christmas boys and the toys are free! And remember to repeat the mantra - Damn those fiscal incompetent liberals.
I knew when Dumbo took the throne I shoulda bought stock in General Dynamics, Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop, and General Instruments where Rummy used to toil. I'm such a chump.
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Fri Dec-03-04 01:04 AM
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12. Because that is what they have been told to think |
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Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 01:05 AM by mmonk
from their leaders. First rule of being a republican today-believe blindly in what your political party leaders tell you. It's a cornerstone of the cult (massive tax reductions=growing economy, can't afford social programs, must increase military spending massively, deficits don't matter, anything negative is Clinton's fault).
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Fri Dec-03-04 01:14 AM
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It Doesn't Matter If You're A Republican.
My Right-wing wack-nut Republican Representative used to show a big, highly produced chart to denounce the deficit when Clinton was president. That guy was replaced by another right-wing wack-nut who is writing legislation to "privatize" Social Security.
The point is: "Social Spending." If any monies are going to The People, then it's bad. When monies are going to the Military Industrial Complex (or the Red State extractive industries), then that's good.
The bankrupting of this country is the right-wing's wet dream.
When we are in the soup lines, they will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Just ask Grover Norquist.
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Fri Dec-03-04 01:20 AM
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14. dear god that is depressing... |
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I personally think that after this election social services and the social safety net will have to be funded by the state governments, probably only the blue states who'll actually come through with it.
Congrats, 7 away from the big 1000 posts.
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Fri Dec-03-04 02:10 AM
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16. Hey, thanks for the help is on it's way |
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in my post count. Nice of you to notice.
However, that State Government funding you mentioned is a bunch of crap.
George Bush is all about starving the Blue States. George Bush is all about starving everything about a viable society.
George Bush is only about stealing all of this country's resources, including military persons, for his own AGENDA.... whatever that is.
Oh, yeah, since the Blue States will be defunded, who is going to provide the "safety net?" Alabama perhaps?
States Rights?
Talk to Norquist.
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Fri Dec-03-04 02:31 AM
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18. Since this schumch mentioned it, |
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I'm gonna use his foil to reach the promised land.
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Fri Dec-03-04 03:02 AM
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What are the "States" going to do when China calls in their chits?
There is no "State" bigger than China.
After you talk to Norquist, perhaps you should talk to the Bush Family Crime Member that is the un-Official Magistrate in China in charge of bigga-bigga deals. "He" has a name.
Oh, yeah, some piddly State in the US is supposed to compete with China for the Bush Crime Family profits?
Get real if you can.
All States, including this entire country has been sold out beneath our feet by the Bush Crime Family.
By The Way, China is buying our debt at a phenomenal rate. In case you haven't noticed, they now rule the US economy.
What is it you don't get with your wimpy post about "state governments?"
good night.
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Fri Dec-03-04 09:04 AM
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27. consider taking some calm me down pills, what I meant was that |
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Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 09:13 AM by NNguyenMD
since we can't depend on the federal government to fund medicare, social security, or even put teeth onto agencies like the EPA, or OSHA, people of the blue states should consider pulling out their takx dollars from what they pay to the federal government and pay it to their states.
Before you crucify me, weren't many people saying shortly after the election that blue states give more money in federal tax revenue than the red states combined, yet receive the least in federal funding. Where as impoverished red states get the most federal funding and give the least.
If that is the case and its true, then it doesn't seem crazy to think that an executive administration with a "red state mentality" should be nowhere near our blue state tax dollars. We ought to think about giving it back to our blue state governments, and fund social programs ourselves. At least until a responsible administration comes back into power.
In states rights I didn't mean flying the confederate flag or secededing from the union. I only meant that the federal government is going to be incompetent with our money for at least another 4 years, if social programs are going to be saved then it'll have to be up to the blue states to run their own programs, instead of paying for an underfunded, inequitable, and incompetent one by a Red-State Federal Administration
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Fri Dec-03-04 08:38 AM
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26. It's funny that for a political party that hated the Soviet Union |
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so much, they are trying to kill us with the same weapon.
The Soviet Union collapse had much to do with overspending on military/defense and the war with Afghanistan.
Now, conservatives are going to destroy America basically the same way.
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Fri Dec-03-04 01:25 AM
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15. Because the "born-agains" think the world ends in 2012 |
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I hear many are spending their OWN money freely, running up all matter of credit card debt. Mainly because of a series of fiction books by Tim Laye, the main one being Left Behind.
Pretty freaky! As IF God will personally tell them in advance. The HEIGHT of arrogance. Most of them epitomize what a true Christian is NOT like.
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Fri Dec-03-04 03:04 AM
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21. It's all Clinton's or liberals' fault |
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Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 03:04 AM by high density
I actually had a right winger tell me the other day that the national debt now is less than it was during Clinton's first term.
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Fri Dec-03-04 05:00 AM
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22. They failed their econ class in high school |
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Fri Dec-03-04 06:09 AM
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They don't think about tomorrow.
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Fri Dec-03-04 08:07 AM
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24. Read "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds"... |
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by Charles Mackay, written all the way back in 1841 but STILL available on Amazon.com, and absolutely as relevant today as the day it was published.
You will see that rampant speculation and massive deficits that bring governments to their knees are nothing new. Put a nation at the mercy of a cadre of greedy people who will do and say ANYTHING to make money from them, and you have a time-tested formula for disaster.
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