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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:52 PM
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Rant email to The New Republic editors
First of all Andrew Sullivan is part of the problem. What happened to my liberal magazine? What happened to the Democratic party?! The New Republic is the worst it has ever been. I used to read it when Mike Kinsley edited it. It was good back in the 1990's. It was actually liberal.

How in God's name The New Republic did my liberal magazine get taken over by doctrinaire right-wing me-too almost Republican so called "Democrats"!? Andrew Sullivan's appearance on Bill Maher was shameful. Debate Chomsky in a open forum! You worm. The sight of you rubbing your butt haunts me. Let me guess were you the one who was primarily responsible for the greatest shame of The New Republic history that I can think of... the shame that says it all. You sell out cryptofascist motherfuckers endorsed Joe Liebermann! You are irrelevent to the democratic movement in the United States. Cover the recount. You do know that they stole the election? I am so disappointed in you, every time I read you I want to puke.

Worthless. A waste of paper. Trash.

Take a lesson from the Ukraine, you tow the line non-liberals. Resign. Let liberals write for TNR again.

Sincerely,


TNR subscriber since 1995
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:57 PM
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1. Are you serious? TNR endorsed Joe fucking Lieberman?!
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:58 PM
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2. Yes! Can you fucking believe it??? And very late in campaign after it
was plainly obvious Joe had no chance.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:05 AM
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3. And Let's Not Forget This Week's "Anybody But Dean for DNC Chair" Stance
They are totally in the throes and influence of the Democratic Losers Council, and must be thrown out with the moneychangers this February -- or we should just throw our money into DFA and force the Dems to us kicking and screaming.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:06 AM
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4. unfortunately Air America Radio is selling NR!
they need money but you're right, new republic is time magazine dishonest...
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:08 AM
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6. Its another institution "they" have taken over, like NPR
and PBS

Now I'm getting depressed...
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:06 AM
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5. It is in the open now,how dumb of them
The signs have been there for about seven years.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:21 AM
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7. Mother Jones
Too bad it's only six issues a year.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:11 PM
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8. Puke away! There's NOTHING liberal about TNR
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 12:24 PM by Tinoire
and don't let any of the neoliberals on this board come trying to tell you that TNR is in any way, shape or form, liberal. The TNR is a NEO-liberal rag; neoconservatives and neoliberals stand for EXACTLY the same thing except that neoliberals are taking over the Democratic Party and neoconservatives are taking over the Republican party.

Ain't a dime's worth of difference between the two except the lip-service that they are willing to pay for their infiltration.

One of your DUers nailed it in an editorial he wrote for us years ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/06/14_fake.html

A Fake Reporter for a Fake Magazine
June 14, 2003

By Dennis Hans

<snip>

The "liberal" New Republic

Long before Glass walked through its doors, the NR was a sordid, sleazy rag that was living not one lie, but two: the pretense that it was (1) non-fiction and (2) liberal.

By "non-fiction," I'm thinking less of Glass and Ruth Shalit (whose frequent ethical lapses - particularly plagiarism - preceded Glass's) and more of the routine smears of human rights groups and individuals who have the wrong take on foreign-policy issues near and dear to the NR's neoconservative heart. That's right, "neoconservative." Parts of the NR's head may be liberal, moderate or conservative, but the heart is hard right.

The rightwing fanatics who dominate George W. Bush's foreign policy team are cut from the same ideological cloth as longtime NR owner (now co-owner) and editor-in-chief Martin Peretz. It made perfect sense for Fox "All-Star" William Kristol to team with the NR's Lawrence Kaplan for a recent book on the U.S. and Iraq. They're peas in the same neocon pod.

<snip>

Alterman asserts that "At least half of the 'liberal New Republic' is actually a rabidly neoconservative magazine," edited in recent years by "Clinton/Gore hater Michael Kelly" (who hated from the right) and by "the conservative liberal hater Andrew Sullivan" (What Liberal Media? p. 10). Sullivan himself, in a recent London Times essay reprinted in the March 30 St. Petersburg Times, described the NR as "neoconservative and neoliberal."

Neoliberals are considered closer to the center than old-school liberals, while hot-to-bomb neocons are considered to the right of old-school conservatives. So even if NR is a 50-50 neoliberal-neoconservative split, that equates to "right of center," not "centrist," let alone "liberal." It's preposterous to identify the NR by the single adjective "liberal."

(snip)

Death-squad "liberals" in print and on the tube

Back in the 1980s, the NR loved Reagan's foreign policy. The magazine's editorials, often penned by Krauthammer, led the cheers for such Reagan-backed torturers and murderers as the Nicaraguan contras, the Salvadoran army and Jonas Savimbi's UNITA rebels in Angola. Neocon guest columnists such as Jeane Kirkpatrick, Edward Luttwak, Irving Kristol (William's father), Michael Ledeen, Kenneth Adelman extolled the virtues of counterinsurgency and big-ticket weapons systems.

<snip>

Dennis Hans is a freelance writer who has taught courses in mass communications and American foreign policy at the University of South Florida-St. Petersburg. Click here to read his stunning essay "Lying Us Into War: Exposing Bush and His 'Techniques of Deceit'" - published several weeks before the start of the recent war. He can be reached at HANS_D@popmail.firn.edu.


YOU and all DUers who care, owe it to yourselves to read that entire article. The NEOs aren't stupid. They are fully aware of how upset American people are over the injustices perpetrated in our name and have been appropriating liberal/progressive labels to cover their stalking horses and to further their goals.

Readers beware!


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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:05 PM
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9. Who Could Forget Their "Support" of Iraq Invasion
and then the apology column where they wrote

"We feel regret, but no shame. . . . Our strategic rationale for war has collapsed," says an editorial hammered out after a contentious, 3 1/2-hour editors' meeting.

"I wanted the editorial to be honest not just about the war and other people's mistakes but our mistakes," Editor Peter Beinart says. "We felt we had a responsibility to look in the mirror."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53812-2004Jun18.html
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