norml
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:20 AM
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Stop our side from using the terms "Racist" and "Racism". |
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Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 01:54 AM by norml
The term "Racist" And "Racism" are too easily used by the evil ones to call any addressing of the issue of race,racism. It is too easy for them to call anyone addressing the issues of race,racists,and racism a racist. The use of the terms "White Supremacist" and "White Supremism" are more precise. Please adjust your debating language accordingly.
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:21 AM
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1. Even Fundy rednecked racists? |
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:29 AM
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3. Then you would call them "White Christian Supremacists" |
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You could possibly even call them "White Male Christian Supremacists".
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:28 AM
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2. Ethnic supremism? (nt) |
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:42 AM
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4. If the term "Ethnic Supremism" works better for you that's great. |
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"Gender Supremism","Religion Supremism",and "Cultural Supremism" are other possibilities. Though I personally think it's better to be more specific,rather than general,in defining just what sort of supremism you are talking about. If you talk about "Ethnic Supremism" it's still way too easy to have that turned around by some right wing media whore,and for them to call you an "Ethnic Supremacist" for even talking about "Ethnic Supremism". If however you talk about "White Supremism",no one can turn that around into calling you a "White Supremacist" for doing that.
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Sun Dec-05-04 01:58 AM
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5. White priviledge. That's what I learned to call it in grad school. n/t |
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Mon Dec-06-04 04:33 PM
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15. "White Privilege" would be a term more exact than the term "racism". |
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What grad school? When? I'd like to know how long ago that was.
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Sun Dec-05-04 03:58 AM
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It's so easy to scream "reverse sexism".
And really, I think the problem is less sexism than the systematic and casual contempt for women which permeates our culture.
It's too easy to say, "Sexism isn't a problem any more. I don't beat my wife. She has a job and can open a checking account." I think it's harder to deny that contempt for women is still widespread.
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Sun Dec-05-04 10:02 AM
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7. Yes,you get it! It works better to use terms like "Male Supremism" |
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Sun Dec-05-04 05:51 PM
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12. Another option is to use the term "Prejudiced Against" |
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Or "Prejudiced For", in order to be more exact, and to not have your terms twisted around, and used against you. What ever happened to using the term "Prejudice"?
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Sun Dec-05-04 10:20 AM
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8. Why does it work better? |
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I think it makes you come across as some PC elitist. Better to use the word or phrase that everyone understands.
Now, I agree that the term should be used in a discriminating (no pun intended) manner.
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Sun Dec-05-04 10:48 AM
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9. It works better because then they can't cry "Reverse Racism" |
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Or call you a "Racist" for mentioning race in connection with anything. The Freeper Public has already been conditioned to view anyone using terms such as "Racist" or "Racism",as some "PC elitist". The problem is that the understanding of those words is too easily corrupted. Everyone does understand what "White Supremism" means. It just needs to be brought into more common use. Does using terms such as "White Supremism" or "White Supremacist" really sound one bit more PC elitist than using terms such as "Racism" or "Racist"? They are a bit more of a mouthful,but not so much as to matter for that.
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Sun Dec-05-04 11:10 AM
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10. Well "Ethnic Supremacist" definitely sounds... |
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Sun Dec-05-04 11:17 AM
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11. Yes, "Ethnic Supremacist" is definitely more than a mouthful. |
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And does sound somewhat "PC elitist",due to it's having one more syllable,and for using the "PC elitist" word "Ethnic". Still,it would work better in debate than the the terms "Racist" and "Racism".
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Sun Dec-05-04 06:15 PM
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13. This was a dumb idea in the Race forum |
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And it's a dumb idea now.
White people aren't the only racists around.
Step away from the bong. Thank you.
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Mon Dec-06-04 03:31 AM
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14. You are only proving my point... |
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By saying "White people aren't the only racists around." Thank you for providing an example of what I'm talking about.
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Mon Dec-06-04 04:39 PM
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16. Is THAT why you want to change the usage of the word racism |
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to some PC terminology? because whites are not the only people who are racist? *sigh* Here we go again...
From a semantics viewpoint, racism can be perpetrated only by a dominant majority against a minority. In this country blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. cannot be considered racist because they are in the minority. Therefore, describing skinheads and KKK members as racist is correct.
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Mon Dec-06-04 04:43 PM
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right wingers call affirmative action "racist" because it supposedly "discriminates against white males," which is complete and utter bullshit.
racism is NOT a back and forth thing, it can only go one way. same with sexism, classism, etc. one group has power, the other one does not. you can't take a poor person's contempt for rich people and a wealthy politician's systematic destruction of anti-poverty measures and call them both "classist."
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Mon Dec-06-04 11:53 PM
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18. exactly! you articulated it much better than I. thank you *eom* |
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