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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:13 PM
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46% of Pakistanis consider suicide bombings against the U.S. to be AOK
Just heard on Wolf Blitzen. Now... who are our allies??
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:14 PM
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1. That figure actually looks like it is on the low side.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:21 PM
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3. Low side?
Almost 50%? That's an awful lot of people to believe it's ok for suicide bombers to bomb against the US.And Bu$h is on national TV praising the Pakastani leader. What a phuckin idiot.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:36 PM
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5. I think the real figure is likely to be more in excess of 90% or more.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:24 PM
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17. 80% of Pakistanis support Osama
no wonder he's living the high life in one of the Pakistani cities...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:21 PM
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2. Look we have no allies besides the UK and Israel
The sooner people start accepting that this is the sorry state Anglo-imperialism has brought us to, the better.

No sense wasting your time discussing the problem if you (generic you) can't even identify it.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:27 PM
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4. They say.... that if all you have is a hammer.....
everything starts to look like a nail....

Well if all you know is militarism.... every country starts to look like a potential threat... or a "country of interest". I wonder if mars ever had a civilization such as ours.... interesting photo...

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/9-26-03-bush_cracks.htm

What could cause rectangular ridges on Mars? These structures pose puzzles that planetary geologists are eager to solve, as they might provide clues to past processes that have shaped Mars over billions of years. On the right of the above image is an unusual array of ridges first spotted in Mariner 9 data in 1972. A ridge wall runs for about 5 kilometers. Two competing progenitor theories include hardened sand dunes and once-molten rock that seeped through surface cracks and cooled. Dubbed "Inca City" for their resemblance to stone walls of an ancient Earth civilization, the Mars Global Surveyor images now show them to be part of a larger circular pattern, indicating an origin possibly related to the impact crater. (NASA)
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:37 PM
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6. All I see in the picture are a lot of nails.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:35 PM
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20. If I had a hammer right?
"If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning
I'd hammer in the evening ... all over this land,
I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warning
I'd hammer out love between all of my brothers and my sisters
All over this land.

(snip)

Well I've got a hammer
And I've got a bell
And I've got a song to sing
All over this land
It's the hammer of justice
It's the bell of freedom
It's the song about love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land."

:)

Mars... what a prospect!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:49 PM
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9. You forgot the racist dipshit in Australia.
Makes me think of Texas, somehow.

Sydney - With relations between black and white Australia edging towards a flashpoint, Australian police have charged two men on Thursday over reports that an aboriginal boy was dragged along the ground with a noose around his neck.

The incident during a farm break-in in Queensland followed a riot six days ago on a remote Queensland island sparked by the death of an aboriginal man in a police cell.

Two men and two boys are suspected of breaking into a farmhouse near Goondiwindi on Tuesday. Police said the four were confronted by farmworkers.

Aboriginal leaders said a 16-year-old boy was caught as he tried to escape across a river. His captors tied his hands, put a rope around his neck and dragged him up and down a river bank before he was beaten and threatened with a shotgun.

IOL
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:01 PM
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13. TINOIRE!!!!!
:hi: :loveya: :hi: :hug:

Threads with 250+ posts about the "wisdom" of referring to an embryo as a "parasite" on a radio show and nary a bit of recognition of all the zygotes, embryos, fetuses, newborn babies, infants, children, teenagers, men, women and elderly being SLAUGHTERED by U.S. "furrin'" policy in Haiti (which doesn't even register on the Ami radar screen), Iraq (auch nicht) and anywhere else the Ami *gub'mint thinks it can just implement its "population reduction plan." So far American citizens have allowed it to do so WITH IMPUNITY. :SIGH:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:31 PM
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18. Haha Karenina!
:hi: & :loveya:

I'm with you! I read that thread with great sadness and even though I am pro-fetus-life, I don't think we're there yet. I think we've gone so far over to the side of evil that we had better start paying a wee bit more attention to "pro-already-in-this-lfe" first! Yeah, like the 'conscient lives' in Iraq, Palestine, Haiti, Appalachias etc...

Poor and brown people DO matter ;)

It's so good to see you still here fighting the GOOD fight :hug:

Grusse mein schatze!
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:43 PM
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7. Musharaff said that Iraq was a mistake and it made the world less safe
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. A man hailed by 59 million ignorant "Christian" idiots as a "man of God" (the right God, of course ... white, hateful, and racist) taking out a Muslim country for no other reason than that he could. Best terrorist recruiting tool bin Laden ever had.

Because 59 million ignorant American idiots lack the capacity to see the big picture, America is in grave danger.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:44 PM
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8. Bad leader of a foreign country... bad bad, now go stand in the corner
of the room... bad.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:50 PM
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10. pakistan is a military dictatorship
so maybe "the people" dont quite agree with their dictator and his handler in the white house..

when on the receiving end of government sponsored terrorism and the indiscriminate cowardly methods of war the USA uses, people tend to react desperately,the face of america these people see is helicopter gunships,massive tank deployments,snipers with nightvision equipment,vicious counter-insurgency techniques,carpetbombing etc etc
imagine what it would take for you to use your body as a weapon,
to me the blowing up of ones own body is a act of total loss of hope

i am a pacifist and a firm believer in international law,i believe that civilians arent a legitimate target of suicide bombers,but i can also see that for someone viewing the USA from the outside,seeing that 50% of eligible americans voted FOR the status quo and the rest are too comfortable to do something to stop it,and all of them pay for the bombs,the destabilization,the state- sponsored terrorism and unchecked capitalism,well i can understand where they are coming from
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:59 PM
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12. Hey.. it's hard, hard work propping up your own failing economy with the
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:52 PM
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11. Hardly surprising
Since they're the ones who set up and supported all those hardline madrassahs in Afghanistan.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:12 PM
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14. You ain't got none.
After pissin' on folks while stealing their stuff, brutalizing and poisoning them, destabilizing their societies, killing their kids WHOLESALE, demonizing them for the past 50 years or so, I can actually understand the sentiment.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:21 PM
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15. Do you see a similarity to the Ancient "Holy" Roman Empire? I do. I
don't know what to make of this guy... but he does have some interesting perspectives on U.S. Empire for being a religious man... I find him.... "refreshing" in some of his views...

http://www.antipasministries.com/oldnews/vol5no4.html
It is not without reason that we have spent a good deal of time in recent weeks painting for you a picture of the United States which, no doubt, differs greatly from the picture most Americans are familiar with. It is one which has been carefully kept from the American public, but it is one which most people who live outside our borders would probably agree is much more accurate.

Please see "Revolution in Military Affairs," "The American Empire," and "The American Empire and the U.S. System of Client States." And the lengths to which our government and the elites who control it have gone to hide (perhaps the better word here is "bury") what America is really all about is truly breathtaking. Please see our article on the American elite, "The Elite, Money, and the 'End of Days'," and " Conspiracy Theories."
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:34 PM
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19. Tell ya what
The "holy" Roman Empire's relics are EVERYWHERE here. On November 1st I was in a church where a friend was playing a concert. One of the columns was obviously bomb damaged. It had a bronze plaque that read: "A warning to the living."
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:23 PM
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16. Jesus and Empire.....
Jesus and Empire
http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/roos.html
The Project's expansionist strategy for global American economic and military hegemony has just one name that truly fits-Empire. Until a few months ago, the use of the term "empire" to describe American presence in the world was quite controversial. But now, many are publicly and unapologetically embracing empire. William Kristol, the chair of the Project for the New American Century, said just last month: "If people want to say we're an imperial power, fine." While criticizing the U.S. readiness for the role of empire, Joseph Nye, dean of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, recently wrote in The Washington Post: "The military victory in Iraq seems to have confirmed a new world order. Not since Rome has one nation loomed so large above the others. Indeed," he continued, "the word 'empire' has come out of the closet."
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:37 PM
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21. His declaration of
"victory" may be a tad premature.
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