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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:13 PM
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Why the Dem party will never get new blood in Central Florida.
I just found out the names of the people who are going to "revive" the Dem party in my county. My first reaction was, nothing is going to change so I'll have to sit out yet another election term.

The Dems must do something about cleaning house. You have people in your party who are known to the locals as people with very bad reputations, even amongst your own. They've mixed business and politics and they did it in a loud and messy good ole boy manner. In a nutshell, they're damaged goods.

Here's the problem as I see it:

The old guard in my area is too mixed up in business organizations that they're really a third party. This is not my original idea. Doug Head, who was in charge of the Dem party in Orlando told me this many years ago. There are three parties in Central Florida, and I suspect it's like that all over: The Republicans, the Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce. The third party can be any organization where people meet to do business networking. What is happening is that you're attracting very ambitious people who think that political positions are used to advance business opportunities. Decisions are made on the golf course and are rubber stamped in city commission meetings. In other words, Republican and Democrats are making private compromises to advance business decisions, but not necessarily good for the public.

In my personal case, the person whose name popped up as a member to your Dem party is just as bad, if not worse than the Republicans in the area. The welfare of my family and my faith in the system has been hurt by decisions he has made in the past when he was in office. This is the kind of thing that is hurting the Dem party. We can talk all we like up here in the net stratosphere. I'll dish out ideas and opinions as long as you all let me; but in the end, if it's important for you to have someone like me come out of my tower, it's important that you recognize the failings of those in your group who have faced an ethical Rubicon, and failed; and what's more, will continue failing because of their lack of integrity.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:16 PM
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1. Sitting out ANOTHER election cycle
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 09:16 PM by Ardee
is a really poor idea....If you will not work to make your local Democratic organisation better then perhaps you might lend support to a third party....Doing something always beats the snot out of doing nothing......
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:18 PM
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2. I've already offered to volunteer to help count absentee ballots.
Not a peep from anyone.

peep, peep, peep.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:22 PM
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3. RUN for party office
it will not change UNTIL we take over... Find out when elections are in your precinct and RUN... even if you do not win a seat find people to go MONITOR these meetings... it is time they have to face us...

But I am serious RUN
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:27 PM
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6. Not a chance.
I've been involved in so many things on a local level, without even realizing that they were political. I just thought I was doing a public service for the community. But I did learn one thing. There is a shadow government in the area that would undermine anyone that tried to challenge them. This is a Republican county, and one dark skinned daughter of a civil servant is not going to change it - ever.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:24 PM
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5. A fine mind such as yours
can surely come up with other work.....Heck, my best friends kid stands on a freeway overpass during rush hour with anti Bush signs.....and he's not alone!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:28 PM
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7. I already gave up three years of trying to make things better.
Those are three years that my family lost, I lost and nothing changed. I'm ready to follow if someone worthy would lead.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:33 PM
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10. You sound depressed
but i am certain that emotion will be replaced with renewed vigor....I used to belong to a club that had a motto, printed on Sweat shirts and tee shirts, that said,"Lead,Follow or get out of the way"......
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:36 PM
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12. Hell, I'm not depressed. Just terminally cynical.
Actually, I'm always looking for mystery. It's just my natural state. I'd be terribly unhappy if I won the lotto because there would no longer be any suspense.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:48 PM
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13. The suspense would come
from deciding whether to winter on the French or Italian Riviera.....
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:00 PM
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14. Ennui
If I HAD to be rich, I suppose I could lose myself playing year round Santa Claus.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:06 PM
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15. Well
Ive got the paunch and the white beard already.....now for the lottery ticket.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:23 PM
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4. !!!!
This isn't just happening on the local level, this is happening on the state level and the national level.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:33 PM
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9. Maybe it's time we talk about it.
If big Dawg wants us to talk about Democratic convictions, maybe we should have our Democratic leaders start the discourse. Big dawg put a five year moratorium on anyone leaving public office before they could go into the private sector to lobby government. He knew there was a problem. Why haven't we heard about this during the Bush Administration?

It's like the joke about the guy who goes to his priest for confession. The first thing he tells the priest is, "You first, father." Really, what priest is capable of being taken seriously with all these pedophile scandals?
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:30 PM
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8. "The Republicans, the Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce"
boy did you hit the nail on the head
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:34 PM
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11. No, Doug Head did. (chuckle)
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