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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:29 AM
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i recieved these strange e-mails...is this the FBI trying to feret
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 08:37 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
is this the FBI trying to feret out sympathizers?...and has anyone else gotten any? both are posted below

i recieved this one on 11/21 and the 2nd one today:

ROM THE DESK OF:
MR.FRANK CHANG
FOREIGN REMMITTANCE MANAGER
PRIVATE INVESTMENT BANKING
FORIEGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT
BANK OF CHINA (BOC)
JOHANNESBURG BRANCH
SOUTH AFRICA.

DEAR SIR,

MY NAME IS MR.FRANK CHANG,I AM THE FORIEGN REMMITTANCE MANAGER.
PRIVATEINVESTMENT BANKING, BANK OF CHINA (BOC) JOHANNESBURG BRANCH
SOUTH
AFRICA.I GOT YOUR CONTACT THROUGH A CONSULTANT WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE
STRONG BELEIVEIN YOU TO HELP ME OUT IN THIS PROJECT.

I AM WRITTING IN RESPECT OF A FOREIGN CUSTOMER OF MY BANK LATE
MR.MOHAMMED KAMAL YASSER,A SAUDI ARABIAN NATIONAL AND AN OIL
CONSULTANT/CONTRACTOR
WITH THE SOUTH AFRICAN MINERALS CORPORATION WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE
FATAI
PLANE CRASH OF 31TH OCTOBER 1999,ABOARD AN EGYPTIAN AIRLINE 990 WITH
OTHER
PASSENGERS ON BOARD.AS YOU CAN VERIFY FROM THE URL: LINK BELOW IT IS
FOR
YOUR PERUSALHIS NAME IS THE LAST NAME ON THE LIST HE BOARDED THE PLANE
FROM
NEW YORK.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/02/egyptair990.list/index.html

SIR SINCE THE DEMISE OF MR.MOHAMMED KAMAL YASSER, I PERSONALLY FOLLOWED
UP HIS FILE AS IT FALLS WITHIN MY JURISDICTION AS THE FOREIGN
REMMITTANCE MANAGER OF THE BANK BUT TO MY GREATEST SURPRISE NOBODY HAS
SHOWN UP AS HIS NEXT OF KIN AND ALL EFFORTS TO LOCATE ONE HAS PROVED
ABORTIVE
AS IT IS NOW VERY GLARING THAT HE LEFT NO BODY BEHIND TO LAY CLAIMS TO
HIS
FUNDS AMOUNTING TO $15MUSD THAT HE DEPOSITED WITH MY BANK WHICH I
PERSONALLY
SURPERVISE.

SEQUEL TO THIS FACTS BEFORE ME I DECIDED TO ACT FAST AND SEEK FOR A
VERY DEPENDABLE/RELIABLE FORIEGNER THAT WE CAN BOTH WORK TOGETHER IN
ONE
ACCORD AND PRESENT HIM OR HER TO MY BANK AS THE BONAFIDE NEXT OF KIN TO
LATE MR.MOHAMMED KAMAL YASSER'S INHERITANCE.BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE TO ACT
VERY
FAST AS THE BANKING EHTICS HERE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SUCH FUNDS TO STAY
MORE
THAN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE AS STIPULATED IN OUR BANKING RULES AND
REGULATIONS
AFTER FIVE YEARS THE MONEY WILL BE CALLED BACK TO THE BANK'S TREASURY
AS
UNCLAIMED FUNDS.SIR, I SINCERELY SOLICIT YOUR ASSISTANCE FOR THIS
PROJECT
DUE TO THE FACT THAT I CANNOT EXECUTE IT ALONE SINCE I WOULD REQUIRE
THE
HELP OF A FORIEGNER TO ACT IN THE CAPACITY OF THE NEXT OF KIN IN THIS
BUSINESS
OCCASSIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE CUSTOMER WAS A FORIEGNER AND IT WOULD
BE
UNWISE OF ME TO PRESENT A LOCAL SOUTH AFRICAN CITIZEN AS THE NEXT OF
KIN
TO THIS FUNDS PERHAPS MY REASON OF CONTACTING YOU AS I STRONGLY BELEIVE
WE CAN BOTH ACHIEVE SUCCESS IN THIS TRANSFER.IF MY REQUEST IS GRANTED
BY
YOU,I HAVE AGREED TO SET ASIDE 40% OF THE TOTAL SUM $15MUSD AS YOUR
SHARE
WHICH AMOUNTS TO "$6MUSD" IN THE CAPACITY OF MY FORIEGN PARTNER AND FOR
PROVIDING AN ACCOUNT LOCATED AT ANY PART OF WORLD WERE THE FUNDS WILL
BE
TRANSFERRED INTO FOR SAFE KEEPING AND ONW ARD DISBURSEMENT BY BOTH OF
US.
WHILE 10% WILL BE SET ASIDE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY EXPENSES THAT YOU MAY
HAVE
TO INCURRE IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING FOR THE RELEASEOF
THIS FUNDS AT THE APPROPRIATE QUARTERS AND THE REMAINING 50% WILL BE
FOR
ME. THEREAFTER I WILL VISIT YOUR COUNTRY FOR DISBURSEMENT AS I AM
ALMOST
DUE FOR RETIREMENT.UPON THE RECEIPT OF YOUR RESPONSE,I SHALL BE SENDING

TO YOU BY FAX OR E-MAILA DRAFT APPLICATION OF CLAIM WHICH YOU WILL BE
SENDING TO THE BANK AS THE NEXT OF KIN TO OUR LATE CLIENT MR.MOHAMMED
KAMAL
YASSER AND EVERY OTHERINFORMATION THAT YOU WILL REQUIRE TO ENABLE US
ACHIEVE
100% SUCCESS IN THIS TRANSACTION IN MY FOLLOW UP ORRESPONDENCE.I WILL
NOT
FAIL TO BRING TO YOUR NOTICE AT THIS JUNCTURE THAT THIS BUSINESS IS
HITCH
FREE AND THAT YOU SHOULD NOT ENTERTAIN ANY FEAR AS EVERY NECCESSARY
REQUIRED
ARRANGEMENT HAS BEEN PERFECTED FOR THE TRANSFER, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
BRING
TO YOUR NOTICE THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU EXPOSE ME AS YOU
R
CONTACT PERSON AS THIS WILL SPELL DOOM FOR THIS TRANSACTION YOU ARE TO
KEEP
MY CONTACT IN UTMOST SECRECY TO AUTHENTICATE YOUR CLAIMS AND MAKE
THINGS
LOOK REAL I AM ON GROUND TO SERVE AS YOUR WATCH DOG HOPINGTODO THIS
MUTUALLY
BENEFITTING BUSINESS WITH YOU. AWAITING YOUR POSITIVE RESPONSE VIA
EMAIL
AND THROUGH MY CONFIDENTIAL PHONE LINE/FAX LINE AND HOPING TO EXECUTE
THIS
MUTUALLY BENEFITTING BUSINESS WITH YOU.PLEASE FORWARD YOUR RESPONSE TO
MY
CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESSE STATED BELOW.

KIND REGARDS,
MR.FRANK CHANG.
CONFIDENTIAL TEL:+873-762-763-590
CONFIDENTIAL FAX:+873-762-763-591
EMAIL: ffchang@excite.com


today i got this one:


Dear Blessed One,

As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. My name is Hussain El Amin a merchant in Tunisa and Dubai.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer.It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone (not even myself) but my business.

Though I am very rich, I was never generous,I was always hostile to people and only focused on my business as that was the only thing I cared for.

But now I regret all this as I now know that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it.

Now that God has called me, I have willed and given most of my property and assets to my immediate and extended family members as well as a few close friends. I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul so,I have decided to give also to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, Algeria, Malaysia and some countries in Africa. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore.

I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of Eleven Million United States Dollars $11,000,000,00 that I have with a Security Company abroad.

I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations. I have set aside 10% for you, your time and also any expenses incured during this Great task. God be with you.

Hussain El Amin

PLEASE SEND ALL RESPONSE TO MY PRIVATE EMAIL: elamin774@netscape.net
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ianrs Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:32 AM
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1. not fbi
but persons attempting to relieve you of the contents of your bank account. Do not be fooled...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:35 AM
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3. i am no fool but these are strange
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ianrs Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:42 AM
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6. know what you mean
Possibly it's because English isn't necessarily the mother tongue of the scammers. But scammers they are, I'm sure.
As one of the other posters said, Delete!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:15 AM
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14. They're just variants of the Nigerian scam....
eom
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:48 AM
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18. Yes, definitely a 419 advance fee scam.
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 09:51 AM by RebelOne
There are lots of variations on these scams. Go to www.419eater.com. I do a little scam-baiting now and then. You reply to them and waste their time with all kinds of forms and demands for photos of them. It keeps them busy so that they are not ripping off some gullible victims.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:26 AM
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15. Just a scam
These have been around since the Internet began. No big whoop, as long as you don't actually fly to wherever to collect the money. Then, you usually get bled dry financially and then murdered. And yes, Americans have been stupid enough to believe this scam.
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:35 AM
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2. Typical variations
on a longstanding scam.

Don't be paranoid about them ... just delete.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:36 AM
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4. 419 scam...
http://www.justiceonline.org/consum/nigerian.html

they promise you allot of money...
you send them less money to cover costs
they keep the money you sent..
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:37 AM
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5. Don't be taken in by this!
It is one of those scams for you to hand over your personal details as well as bank details, then they come along and clean you out.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:43 AM
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7. these things have been around for years . . .
I remember receiving similar scams during the Clinton administration . . . there must be some REALLY stupid people out there, since they wouldn't keep doing this if it wasn't bringing at least some results . . . anyone taken in by this nonsense deserves to have their bank account lightened . . .
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:44 AM
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8. Want to have some fun fucking with them?
Check out this site: http://www.419eater.com/ :evilgrin:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:44 AM
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9. "It has defiled all forms of medical treatment"
That's one nasty cancer if it defiles all forms of treatment.

LOL

:) :) :)
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DarkSim Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:46 AM
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10. Someone who knows you who knows these people
has the mydoom virus. It basically just takes your email contacts and BCC's all your emails to random people you know or your friends know or your friends friends friends friends know.

Nasty shit.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:51 AM
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11. Just scam e-mail
Get them all the time. Don't send them your bank's routing and account numbers! If it were the FBI, they'd already have that information.


;-)
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:53 AM
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12. I get these kind of offers...

... on a daily basis... It's the new scam... Just delete....
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:13 AM
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13. New spin, old scam.
But who knows... maybe the FBI is working with these dudes!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:42 AM
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17. i wouldn't want to have them found on my hard drive if it was ever seized
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:33 AM
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16. The place I was working at about a year ago
Got a letter via snail mail worded almost exactly the same. It was trashed...scam and a half.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:55 AM
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19. I think this is called a "Phishing" scam
I get stuff like this in my hotmail account and it usually has an official-looking bank logo like Wachovia, Bank of America, Citigroup, etc. asking me to confirm my social security # or transfer money to an account.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:59 AM
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20. I read somewhere about the FBI and Secret Service
using these emails to hunt down far left Democrats. BEWARE!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:51 AM
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22. should i forward it to the FBI or SS or just keep them deleted?
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:44 PM
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23. no, that would make them mad.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:12 AM
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21. Here is a fun website on these types of scams >
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