How long would the red states last without the blue states?

[rockydem]

They would die off so quick. They have little industry and basically no scientific research. All the things that move this country forward come from blue states.

I say cut off the red states. They want cures for disease? Fuck 'em - until they quit scapegoating anyone with an education as 'elitist'.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. If this keeps up, I think we should go on a tax strike.

See how quick things get changed once non of the blue staters pays their income tax.

[Vincardog]

2. The general strike starts FRIDAY

That is right Friday is the First day to Do NOTHING

[izzie]

8. I hate to say this but----

One of the big things in this welfare stuff was how the Southerns treated the poor Southerns. People really thought that a country wide welfare state would fix a lot of that. Does any one re-call when they sent bus loads of poor blacks from the South to Ma? Must be something on that someplace on the INTERNET.

[bvar22]

4. I don't see any RED States.

Please point out the "RED" states you want to "cut off".

[rockydem]

6. The red states are controlled by the 'red state' mindset

Their policies encourage mooching off blue states, and discoourage scientific research. There are Dems in those states but they aren't running things.

It's time to hold the majorities in those states responsible for their OWN BULLSHIT. I encourage Dems in the red states to temporarily move to blue states. Let's see how long those idiots red states last.

[bvar22]

16. I live in one of the bluest states in the US,

...and am thinking of extending this boycott to the states that are only a little blue. Some of the so called "blue" states have a "red" governer or senator or congressman....that isn't pure enough for me.


In fact, I was looking at a precinct map of my blue state, and I was horrified to notice that the Suburbs are "RED"!!! How do you think I should attack those phoney Democrats who are choosing to live in the Red suburbs. I myself am inner city true blue, and am getting tired of carring the weight for those phoney Dems who live in the "RED" suburbs. Those hippocrits in the suburbs need to be taught a lesson!

[rockydem]

19. If right wing philosophy rules a state - cut it off

especially the red southern states...

As an example - Minnesota currently has a puke governor. But it is still a Blue state - right wing philosophy does not rule in Minnesota.

The same goes for California.

But those hard core red states - you know which ones they are. I wish we could just sever them and watch them drown in their own ignorance and incompetence.

It won't happen. But it's a nice thought.

[bvar22]

23. No, I don't know.

Please name the states you would "cut off". Which states are "ruled" by the right wing philosophy.

[bvar22]

24. Minnesota goes!!!! We cannot possibly keep the state..

...that elected Norm Coleman to the Senate!

[Lone Pawn]

34. Minnesota goes?

OMG MASSACHUSETTS VOTED FOR REAGAN IN '84! MASSACHUSETTS GOES!
REAGAN CAME FROM CALIFORNIA! CALI GOES!

Remember, Minnesota gave you Wellstone too. And Norm only won because, well, Paul died.

[rockydem]

20. Fuck quit sending them movies and TV shows too

Cut them totally off...

[QC]

50. I hate to be the one to tell you this, Rockydem, but NM is a "red state."

It's also the third largest per capita recipient of "red state welfare," taking in $1.89 for every dollar it pays out.

[izzie]

12. But it is the people who gets the power that counts.

Has any one looked at state gov. and how they are set up. Be interesting if they vote in the state Dem. but GOP for federal office. I looked around but could not find it and it has to be here some place. I do not think I know just what to call it.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

25. You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

THESE Red States. I don't care if 30% of the state voted for Kerry. Most of these states have never and will never actually elect a Democrat.

[Stinky The Clown]

33. Is there a map anywhere that shows the colors by zip code?

Not a flame ... a serious question. I suspect if one existed it would show a much more balanced electorate. Remember, while we lost this time at the national level, we only lost by a whisker. The map you show ought to make that quite clear. It did to me (but then it is what I've always believed).

[KnowerOfLogic]

42. Perhaps you're living in a state where less than 50% of the vote wins.

I think that in most states, its the 51% that counts, so you can redraw that map according to which way the 51% goes.

[trotsky]

3. I was gonna say, they might starve us...

but then we've got California, Minnesota, and Wisconsin - I think we'll do OK!

[NurseLefty]

5. Economic secession... a nice idea

Show the Red States who's REALLY paying the bills!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. They have a lot of land and a lot of churches.

And the blue states have, for example, the car factories, coal and iron mines, scientific and medical research facilities, almost all of the banking and finance centers, a bunch of major airport hubs and seaports, institutions of higher education like Harvard, Yale and MIT; plus tech centers like Silicon Valley and Microsoft, not to mention the very lucrative the entertainment business. But I guess red states' lack of those things isn't a problem because they have so many fundie churches -- Jesus can provide everything they need.

[sportndandy]

9. We should have let them go in 1861 when we had the chance!

I have come to reasses Lincoln. I think the civil war was the wrong move. I mean, they were gone! If Lincoln had let them go we would be in great shape today.

[QC]

31. Yeah, 6,000,000 slaves are a very small price to pay

to keep you from having to deal with people you don't like! :eyes:

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. Weeelll, the red states are also known as the bread basket...

no?

[DrWeird]

13. Let them eat bread.

We'll do just fine from imports.

[ooglymoogly]

18. we'll just have to go on atkins and buy kobi and british beef

and we've got plenty of fish. bread and sugar are killers anyway....just a little mental masterbation here...never mind

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. Yes, they may have Florida Oranges & Georgia Peaches, but

we got Ghiradelli and Sour-dough bread. And wine. Lots and lots of wine.

[roguevalley]

11. 40 seconds. the financial and shipping markets are heavily

favored in the blue states.

[Ian David]

15. The Red States will survive

You know, there are countries that we pay for the privilege of dumping our trash and toxic waste there.

That could become the south's new growth industry.

[GOPFighter]

14. I've said all along...

...we've GOT to get those red states off welfare!

[Ian David]

17. Have you seen this site?

http://www.FuckTheSouth.com

[illflem]

21. All this talk of red state/blue state segregation really does

is turn off the 40% or more people in the red states that voted demo.

[Pattib]

36. Really? Not me. I'm in Florida...a very red part of FL.

The panhandle. Believe me, there are a few of us dems here and I am not turned off at all. What turns me off are the yahoo hicks that I am surrounded by. I am here for one reason and one reason only. My kids have a few yrs. left in college. As soon as my daughter graduates (2007) we are out of here. We ended up here because of orders. My husband is retired Navy.
It is hell on earth at times. THe funny thing, in my county there are more registered democrats that repukes and yet Bush still managed to get about 75-80% of the vote. Guess that's them Southern Democrats. I'm sorry but I am sick of the confederate flag waving rednecks. On May 1,2007 I am on my way north. Keep the welcome mat out...please.

[QC]

37. Are you everybody?

Universalizing your own experience is usually not a real good idea.

[KnowerOfLogic]

44. Doesn't turn me off. It gives me hope that at least i can always

move to a blue state, and if i really gat lucky, the blue states will secede, and i can be living in a decent, moral, liberal, intelligent country.

[George W. Hayduke]

49. That rant

is fucking great. FUCK THE SOUTH!

[amazona]

22. we have oil and ports

How long would blue states last without the red? We have the oil, like it or not. And plenty of it is being held in "reserve" and not being drilled at the rate it could be. We grow the food too.

[forgethell]

26. Where does NASA lauch?

Where are the military bases? The red states would survive alright. But red & blue would do better together.

[SOS]

28. The federal government

should end payments to states. Slash the federal income tax and stop sending money from Washington to any state. Let each state finance it's own needs.
Connecticut would get a 40% overall tax reduction and Texas would have to institute a state income tax.

:)

[More Than A Feeling]

51. this sounds like something that people might go for

remember republicans have a knee-jerk love affair with anything that sounds like a tax cut. This might be a legitimate proposal that could help those who do not vote in favor of their own economic interests wake up.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. I thought America was mostly purple, contrary to what the Corporate

controlled media would have you believe. Ah well fuck 'em anyway. I have my card board condo picked out. :eyes:

[Stinky The Clown]

30. I started out bycotting the red states and alienated

not only the republican voters but all the voters ... ah fuck 'em. I didn't want their votes anyhow.

I concentrated on my own state instead. I boycotted the red counties. They spurned my efforts ..... ah fuck 'em. Who needs their votes anyway?

So I got a little more insular. I boycotted the precincts in my county that voted republican last time. But they cut off my route to the grocery store ..... ah fuck 'em. I hated their votes anyhow.

So now, its me and the guy next door growin' beans inna yard and eyein' the dogs as a food source .... and I'm worried about who the guy next door voted for last time ............ ah fuck 'em ... who would want his stinkin' vote anyhow?

[Carl Brennan]

32. But they do have faith. Never forget the power of the dark side of

the farce. :evilgrin:

[KnowerOfLogic]

45. All the more reason for blue states to secede completely. nt

[Lone Pawn]

35. More Dem senators come from Red States than Blue States

Keep that in mind.
And what about, say, West Virginia? They voted for Bush, but have two Dem senators and a Dem governor.

[QC]

38. Hey, you can't do that!

Why must you insist on dragging things like common sense into the discussion?

Here we were having a perfectly good time mindlessly repeating corporate media talking points and hating on people we don't know and you have to wreck it with mere facts!

[bloom]

39. If anything -the premise of this thread is the perfect example of the Puke

mindset. Us vs. them. Fuck 'em. We are the powerful ones... Let them suffer... etc.

[QC]

43. You sure got that right!

The only difference between freepers and the blue/red obsessives here is their ideology--otherwise they have the same habits of mind, the same seething hatred, the same view of power, the same ranting, hysterical rhetorical style, the same unshakable belief in their superiority to the unwashed masses, the same eagerness to gobble up and regurgitate any media clichés that happen to validate their prejudices, etc.

[UpsideDownFlag]

40. and most of our agriculture and military bases are in red states....nt

[KnowerOfLogic]

46. The red states will be pretty strapped for cash to keep those bases going;

of course they'll try to, you know, cuz that's the kind of macho folks they are; and this will hasten the bankrupting of the confederacy.

[UpsideDownFlag]

47. federal taxes from the blue states go a long way in helping.

try not paying your taxes as part of the 'strike'...that'll go real far.

[KnowerOfLogic]

41. You are right. I think dems should start voting with their feet;

first a lot of dems should move to blue states, then the blue states secede, and the Confederacy will gradually slide into being a medieval, third world theocracy.

[BiggJawn]

48. "No Scientific Research"

That's funny, I could have SWORN I read just last week where we have discovered a possible "fix" for spinal cord injuries with polymers, and United Technologies is coming to our Research Park (no, it's NOT an old single-wide down by the crick)

grow a lot of food there in NY, I take it?

But hey, it's just a stupid little jerk-water "Red State" college, never amounted to anything. Just produced more astronauts than any BLUE state colleges....

You're fucking mean when you've been drinking. Anyone ever tell you that?

[Moderator]

52. I'm locking this thread

reason:

creates division on DU