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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:35 AM
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Convoluted Explanations about 911
I read a document last night that had promised to explain how every member of the 911 commission had a conflict of interest (and should not have been investigating themselves). Simple enough; but like many such documents it was written in a convoluted way and with a lot of metaphor and name calling. Similarly, F911 featured a somewhat hard to follow explanation of how Bush was connected to the Saudi royals.

Why aren't these things written clearly? Here is a nursery rhyme re-written in the style I am trying to describe:

Jack, a Democrat who accepted money from PACs including the International Federation of Oil Money Handlers, and Jill, a Texas Republican who sits on the boards of BOTH WorldCom AND Citigroup (!) arrived at the base of the hill. There is no videotape of the event which is suspicious in itself, but hours later the two had a full bucket of water. This thing is very wide spread - no telling how many are involved!

Has anyone found a concise piece that lays out a case for why the 911 Commission ignored so much?

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:41 AM
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1. Can you share some more information so your post doesn't make
me say "What the fuck are you talking about?"

What bucket of water?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:51 AM
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2. LOL!.. I got it.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 10:52 AM by Dr_eldritch
KurtNYC was making the case for the simplification of how a critique is performed on a (possibly) biased commission.

Sorry- I've not come across anything succinct and convoluted as 'Jack and Jill' yet - but I'll post if I find anything.

{typo}
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:09 AM
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3. How 'bout the ideer that they are hiding something
Here's some interesting data on the 911 commision's members and the trustworthy fellows that they are:


THOMAS KEAN (CHAIRMAN)
DIRECTOR (AND SHAREHOLDER OF AMERADA HESS CORPORATION, WHICH IS INVOLVED IN THE HESS-DELTA JOINT VENTURE WITH DELTA OIL OF SAUDI ARABIA, OWNED BY THE BIN MAHFOUZ AND AL-AMOUDI CLANS. THIS COMPANY WAS INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL PLANNING FOR A TRANS-AFGHAN OIL PIPELINE JUST PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 11

LEE HAMILTON (Vice Chair)
WAS APPOINTED TO CHAIR A COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE IRAN/CONTRA AFFAIR.
-HAMILTON PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE OCTOBER SURPRISE OF 1980-81 IN WHICH IT WAS CHARGED THAT THE REAGAN-BUSH CAMPAIGN TEAM WAS REPORTED TO HAVE SECRETLY NEGOTIATED WITH IRAN'S REVOLUTIONARY GOVERNMENT TO DELAY RELEASE OF THE AMERICAN HOSTAGES HELD AT THE US EMBASSY IN TEHRAN.

-PHILIP ZELIKOW (EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR) :
WROTE A BOOK WITH MS. RICE IN 1995, WAS ON THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION’S TRANSITION TEAM FOR THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AND HAS ACKNOWLEDGED HAVING CONTACTS EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH KARL ROVE, PRESIDENT BUSH’S CHIEF POLITICAL ADVISER,
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:03 PM
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5. Why would Hamilton do this ...

Lee Hamilton is a Democrat. Why would he be involved in the October Surprise???

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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:09 PM
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6. OK, found my own answers ...
http://www.bartcop.com/parry-hamilton.htm

I guess it's possible to be TOO bipartisan. We do need Democrats who fight hard for the truth like Cynthia McKinney. We DO NOT need wishy-washy Alan Colmes style Democrats who will back down no matter what just to "find a compromise".



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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:16 PM
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7. He's a bipartison kissass
Something about upper politics. In the end they are more like a mafia and their careers mean much more than standing for issues.

I mean, come on, do you really think democratic senators voted to invade Iraq because they were misled?

-E
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:32 AM
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4. Go downstairs, young man.
Check the archived but active 9/11 forum. It isn't simple, but it's all there.
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