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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:46 PM
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Randi: discouraged from discussing voting
I think more than a few of us have wondered, and now it is official.

Randi just said the words:
"I've been discouraged from talking about voting"

So there we have it - a lockdown at AAR. WTF?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:47 PM
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1. Did she say it was from the higher ups?
This is such BULLSHIT!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:48 PM
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2. It is coming from
Clear Channel. She told me herself.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:52 PM
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9. clear channel? NOW we understand
why CC starting broadcasting AAR. how else to control the content?

:grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:54 PM
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11. Yes...
that is why you now hear AAR on Clear Channel Stations.


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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:00 PM
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18. Listen to Pacifica radio
It's not perfect, but they're the best left media outlet we have.

Pacifica stations also broadcast the Conyers' Ohio forum today.

www.pacifica.org
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:03 PM
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23. AAR doesnt belong to Clear Channel
It just carries thier programming. Assuming AAR hasnt sold out, this is not a problem, and if AAR has sold out, it is the last of our problems.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:10 PM
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26. That's fine by me. I didn't say anything about Clear Channel.
My plug is for Pacifica stations, especially www.kpfa.org and www.wbai.org, in my opinion.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:12 PM
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27. Just wanted to clarify for readers.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 04:15 PM by K-W
That so far AAR has not been implicated in anything at all.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:14 PM
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29. That's what I figured, but sometimes you never know.
:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:02 PM
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:52 PM
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34. Well, as a public service, she should remind us every 15
minutes that Clear Channel doesn't want her talking about voter irregularities. Maybe she should give us a name so we can find out why?
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:48 PM
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4. The HELL?
*fumes*
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:49 PM
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6. She didnt specify.
If she was being quieted by AAR, this is an issue.

If not, it isnt an issue at all.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:48 PM
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3. I walked
out of the room and missed it. Could you tell me a little more ?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:48 PM
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5. Somebody call her and ask her about it. . .Who pressured her EOM
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:49 PM
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7. Self-delete
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 04:20 PM by Walt Starr
Not so sure this post isn't a hoax, she's been talking about it since the poster first posted this.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:22 PM
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32. Heres what actually happened.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 04:22 PM by K-W
Randi said she was discouraged by someone. She didnt say who. It could have been anyone. Clearly whoever it was doesnt have the power to make her.
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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:50 PM
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8. wow
The death of Democracy...
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:56 PM
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13. What good is it to have liberal radio...
if the hosts are discouraged from discussing highly relevant issue and criticizing the administration too vehemently? I was against them having a relationship with Clear Channel, and this is a perfect illustration of why.

I get it on Sirius, and, to my knowledge, the hosts were not pressured from speaking freely.

This is so frustrating for me.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:59 PM
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17. Overeact much?
Of couse she has been discouraged. YOu didnt know that there were people in this country who dont support voting rights?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:54 PM
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10. We need more details, somebody call her! n/t
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:55 PM
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12. The problem is that Air America is carried on CC stations!!
Which means, Air America has no independent voice at all! Not to mention Randi's "home" CC station in Florida....

Where is Soros when you need him?? The FCC recently put on auction a couple of hundred FM stations mostly in the West and South....why isn't some liberal with deep pockets gobbling them up before they fall into the hands of more RW preachers and hate radio programmers????
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:57 PM
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15. You know...we could really use his help here.
Soros, where are you? Is there freedom of expression left in this country or not?
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:01 PM
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20. Do you have info on this auction?
I'm in the South and would be very interested in knowing. New Orleans has a petition going to try to pick up an AAR station. I'd love to know more about this!
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:02 PM
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22. Randi wasnt censored.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 04:02 PM by K-W
Just discouraged.

Im still looking for the big problem here.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 05:30 PM
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37. Could it have anything to do with BBV & controversial Bev Harris?
Just a guess...I can't imagine anyone shutting up Randi...
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:57 PM
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14. One word: PRAVDA! nt
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:59 PM
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16. well... she is TALKING about it ANYWAY!
go Randi!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:10 PM
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25. BOOM
:D
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:00 PM
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19. AAR Exec. Prod. Steven Rosenfeld was at the Judiciary forum today.
Listen to his testimony about OH voting problems here: http://www.cspan.org/Search/basic.asp?BasicQueryText=Voting&SortBy=date He spoke for about 3 minutes about 49 minutes into the video.

He didn't mention anything about a ban, but just the fact AAR is at the forum indicates that AAR is hip to what's happening but perhaps doesn't think the election can be overturned because people actually couldn't vote.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:04 PM
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24. Seriously.
Nothing even remotely negative about AAR has happened. But look at the feeding frenzy to trash them.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:13 PM
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28. Well, I'm listening to her now and she's talking about it.
Good for her!
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:19 PM
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30. I don't know where
I read or heard this but ARR's lawyer is one of many looking into the voting fraud issue. Could it be because of this she can't say anything? I can't believe Randi being muzzled by anyone without making a huge issue out of it.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:21 PM
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31. She isnt being muzzled.
Clearly the people who discouraged her didnt have the coercive power to muzzle her.

They just discouraged her.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:51 PM
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33. OK, I have more on this
I'm going to allow my source to remain anonymous, but this is from someone I consider reliable.

I was told that "Clear Channel complained that if she continued talking about voting issues, they were going to replace her voice with someone that sounds a lot like Rush L..."

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:52 PM
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35. Fuck Clear Channel
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 04:53 PM
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36. I cant wait until that trust gets busted.
I will sit back and watch with a bowl of popcorn.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 05:36 PM
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38. The BFEE controls all!
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