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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:39 PM
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That Rumsfeld. He's one tough bastard.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 06:40 PM by trof
Gotta give him that.
Tougher'n railroad spikes.
Yessir.

From today's appearance with the troops:
"Why are we digging in local landfills to find scrap metal to armor our Humvees? Trying to find pieces of bulletproof glass we can use?"

Is he taken aback? At a loss for words or a cogent explanation? Does he even have the decency to blush? Nossir. Not Rummy the Invincible.

"Well, we go to war with what we have, not with every single thing we'd LIKE to have. You can have all the armor in the world on a tank, and a tank can be blown up."
Translation: "And just who-the-fuck are YOU? You must have some set of cajones, kid. I'll have your serial number about 2 seconds after I leave this stage. Can you say "private no-class"? You are prime Fallujah Fodder, and for the duration. Don't even begin to THINK about messing with me, sonny. I'll send your ass WHERE I want to, WHEN I want to, for AS LONG as I want you to be there. Are you making the mistake of thinking that I actually give a shit? Just remember, it ain't MY ass on the line, it's YOURS. and YOUR ass belongs to me."

"I signed a contract for one year in the Guard and now I have been extended indefinitely. Can you tell me how long I'll be here or when I can get out? Why doesn't the government honor my contract?

"Oh this has been going on for many years. Needs Of The Service. You knew that. blah blah blah"
Translation: "OK, sweetie. I'll have YOUR serial number about one second after I have that other asshole's. Lemme tell you something. You'll be here exactly as long as I SAY you have to, and not one minute more. I'll guarantee that. Fuck you and fuck your "contract". Goddam broads in the army anyway. Buncha fuckin' namby-pambies. When you join the military you have joined for LIFE, toots. Don't forget it."

Ol' Donny is one tough sunovabitch.
No doubt about it.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:40 PM
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1. Check out his many fighting styles:
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zeek Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:44 PM
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2. I actually think we could win Iraq if Rumsfeld and Wolwitz left
As poorly as Bush has handled Iraq, I think he could still turn it around if he would get some people with a clue to head DOD. My four year old daughter could do a better job then Rumsfeld.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:51 PM
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5. ya think?
and how would that be accomplished? This "war" was lost before it was started. The world knew it. The anti-war protesters in the USA knew it. Only the neo-cons and bush-bots thought it was winnable.
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billie_ Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:29 PM
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17. exactly leftchick....n/t
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:58 PM
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8. How would you know when you had won, and what is it you would win?
This is a war of liberation, and it will be over when Iraq is liberated. That's how these things work.
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:18 PM
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13. You can "win" the postwar.
The postwar is won when you've won the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. The rhetoric is true, despite the fact that every single effort we've had to do so has been thwarted by 12 different efforts that didn't give a damn about the Iraqis. Most Iraqis were optimistic about the US when we first invaded. Most were in favor of the "liberation." But then they wanted us *out.* We had to give them a compelling reason why they should let us stay. Instead of that reason being "we're making your lives better each day," it was "because now you need us to shoot the terrorists. And if you even live in the vincinity of someone who disagrees with us, you are a terrorist."
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:35 AM
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21. We are pretty deep into the "post war" if you go by "end of major combat"
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:37 AM by BurtWorm
and there's no sign that the Bushists ever had a clue how to win anyone's hearts and minds but those of the black-hearted and feeble-minded boobs in Bushland.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:59 PM
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9. Win what? Do what?
We invaded their country. We are the enemy until we are gone.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:09 PM
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12. zeek, welcome to DU
You cannot win a war when you invade a country on the premise of nothing but lies.... sorry
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:46 PM
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3. Sounds just like my idiotic
uncle. Who served in the Navy for 8 years and never saw a day of combat, but thinks he deservs the Nobel Peace Prize for backing our nitwit Prez to the bitter end, no matter what. I wonder if he'll still feel the same when his grandson is drafted in a couple years?
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:48 PM
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4. Heck, it's easy when you're a sociopath
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:55 PM
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6. he makes me so sad
I feel like its just a slap in the face of every young person out there, dying and getting mutilated.

fuck this administration and every one in it

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:57 PM
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7. Welcome aboard.
Howdy.
:hi:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:42 PM
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20. I really think the word is MAD
He certainly made this dumb draftee MAD when he slaped me in the face with his comments that draftees added "no value, no advantage, really, to the United States Armed Services over any sustained period of time." - Rumsfeld, 08 Jan 03

Welcome to DU! Oh, and I do embrace your words "Fuck this administration and everyone in it." ;)

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:04 PM
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10. Yes, he's managed to...
...snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:04 PM
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11. Yes, he's managed to...
...snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:21 PM
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14. He's one COWARDLY, puny little shit, who sat out the Korean War!
A senile old Chickenhawk munchkin!!

Fuck that fascist punk!

:puke:
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:22 PM
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15. If Kerry had used that line to respond to the "body armor" ad I wonder how

The Republicans would have spun it.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:28 PM
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16. Well, Rumsfeld certainly is a bastard...
He's more arrogant and incompitant than tough
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:40 PM
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19. From the Daily Show last night:
In order to stay on in the bush* administration, you couldn't be just a plain old failure; you had to be a Colossal Failure like Condi and Rumsfeld.
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CoffeeAnnan Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:37 PM
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18. I remember a story about Rumsfeld from the Nixon days.He says to
Colson, his right hand man in those days "Get that guy Rumsfeld out of my sight.He creeps me out!" A guy who could creep Nixon out must be one mutha!
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:42 AM
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22. He answers every question like it's the most idiotic question ever.
You could ask the most brilliant, detailed question ever devised by humanity, and Rummy would answer it as though you were retarded. I can't tell if it's talent, impatience, conceit, or a combination of the three.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:54 AM
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23. I fucking hate him
I just fucking hate him. I've never been a big fan of the military but I married into it and have learned to live with it and understand that most soldiers have absolutely no desire to ever go to war. Right now, after yesterday, I hate everything about it. I don't even want to hear the fucking term "military" today. Fuck you, Rumsfeld.
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