60 Minutes about Deserters on NOW nt

[Tsiyu]

[codegreen]

1. (in select markats; right wingers own the local station? no news for you!)

i fucking hate my local CBS, playing an hour of Billy Graham instead. they bumped 60 minutes to 2am.

[TexasLady]

2. well GOD DAMN GRAHAM

I was just gonna post the same thing.:mad:

Forget about the truth in central Texas, because it aint happenin here.:mad:

[Cleopatra2a]

3. Banned in SW Oklahoma also,

They are showing a St Jude's "telethon"!!!!

[seabeyond]

17. missed most of it, but saw some in amarillo texas

then they went onto christian music i believe, didnt watch much. all this is yuk to me right now.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. I watched it here in San Antonio

:shrug: Turn the channel when they went to the Christian Rock piece :puke:

[CornField]

5. Billy Graham is also gracing the NE Iowa airwaves

bastards

[Tsiyu]

6. They bumped "Lost" here

Either way, what a waste of an hour

[Wonk]

31. quicktime video and mp3 here for those who missed it

30 M quicktime

3 M mp3

[sbj405]

4. Saw it here in DC

Who was the guy doing the interviewing?

[Strelnikov_]

8. Scott Pelly, Douchebag For Liberty

Maybe he needs to sign up since he obviously thinks chimps Iraq adventure is such a noble cause.

[sbj405]

10. yeah. he was rather combative.

did little to show the desserters side of the story.

[Career Prole]

16. It was Pelley and it may as well have been a Faux News interview.

I was disgusted. "But you signed a contract..."
He read the San Angelo, TX kid letters from his hometown paper saying he should be shot.

He told the guy who was denied conscientious objector status after Afghanistan that he was contracted to follow orders.

When the fellow said he was also bound to not obey illegal or immoral orders and that the invasion was basically an illegal and immoral order, Pelley had the freaking GALL to say
"I've been to Iraq...I've been in the mass graves...people with their hands tied and shot through the head. You don't think it was worth it?"

You STUPID piece of commercial shit! NO!
It most certainly WAS NOT worth it!
Where is your indignation that your president lied, you worthless excuse for a journalist?!
Where is your investigation of THAT?!
Where was your piece on your president's desertion during wartime?!

Sorry for yelling.
Also sorry I watched that bullshit.
:grr: :grr: :grr:

[Blue_Tires]

20. you know that CBS will do anything possible now

to shake that ol' "Liberal" label they've (allegedly) been carrying for years!!!

with Rather out the door, and Wallace and Rooney and the old heads a couple years from retirement, look for them to become CNN/FAUX-lite

[Blue_Tires]

7. WPRI in Providence, RI

is showing Fraser!!!

god dammitt the hell fuck shit....left work early, and skipped my workout tonight just to catch 60 min....and RI is supposed to be one of the liberal states!!!!

[Tsiyu]

24. Well, they showed two guys in Canada and their attorney

who is handling their cases before the Canadian authorities.

Both guys left due to the immorality of the war.

I believe Pelley per another poster was the interviewer
He was an ass.

The first guy wanted to go to Afghanistan but not Iraq.

Pellie read some LTTE from the kid's home town, stating that these folks want to shoot him.

Then Pelly turns around and is shown asking the lawyer how he will prove that the kid will be persecuted. ( DUH!!!!!!!Reporters are so GD stupid! Didn't those LTTE's just make the case DUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!)

Anyhoo, wish Pellie Boy asked the tough questions of Bush and his Gulag, but no, he hounded these kids like they were fresh meat.
Both held their own.

The second kid was with the 82nd. He realized he didn't want to kill, so asked to be put in noncombat. They say he doesn't meet concientious objector status so basically were going to force him back into combat. ( Thanks AWOL George, you cowardly motherfucker - YOU go fight for this kid, since you're such a badass!)

So the kid said, screw that and moved his wife and child to Canada. ( He resembled a young John Kerry). Pellie was an ass to him as well, but the kid firmly and gently held his own. He said he took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not to engage in offensive, pre-emptive war.

"What use is there in being a martyr" the kid asked, when Pellie said he should do the honorable thing and go back and be prosecuted. "Why should I be punished for doing what's right"

The attorney was a Viet Nam era dodger himself, and said he had received around 60 calls from AWOL soldiers wanting out.

Edited to get the asshole 60 minutes dude's name correct. Blah!!!

[Blue_Tires]

25. thanks for the summary

[Tsiyu]

26. No problem nt

[Career Prole]

27. ("He resembled a young John Kerry"...

Yes! That's what struck me about him...I knew I'd seen those eyes before!
Apropos to nothin', I wonder what Pelley's service record looks like?

[antigone382]

28. He was a spitting image

Made me kind of sad...:(

And that damned interviewer...I'd love to see his response if somebody handed him a gun, shipped him to a place that posed no threat to us, and put him in the position to kill innocent people, all because of a piece of paper.

The first kid said it was a contract with the devil, and he was 100% right.

[minkyboodle]

33. yeah the 60 minutes interviewer was a prick

he kept repeating the same thing over and over again to these kids. Hounding them with it. I thought they did pretty well considering the questioning style.

[Amaya]

9. Just saw it

Wow, I didn't know there are over 5000 deserters. :wow:
The kid they interviewed was great. He said, he swore to uphold the Constitution, not to fight in a preemptive war.

[TexasLady]

11. thanks

i swear i need to move. i feel like i live in a box and the walls of it are painted with bush's goofy smirk.

[mmonk]

12. Over 5000?

Wow, there's alot the people don't know. I can't wait to see it (recorded it on my DVR).

[mhr]

13. That's Right - The Same Oath I Took As Well

Protect the Constitution not fight for demigods!

[Blue_Tires]

14. i'm getting really sick of station managers pulling national

content that they don't agree with...it's a very shitty policy that seems to be happening more and more since the sinclair controversy

[mmonk]

18. In the new America

free speech or criticism of the leader or party is discouraged and sometimes prohibited.

[tsuki]

35. Report it to the FCC. Mikey'll do something...NOT.

[B Calm]

15. Banned in Champaign, Illinois

had to catch it on a Lafayette, Indiana station.

[Blue_Tires]

19. just called WPRI

of course they have an automated loop on with no one picking up...hell, i can't even get transferred to the newsroom!! They INTENTIONALLY cut off the phone lines tonight because they knew about all the calls that were coming....i'm pissed

[Zero Division]

21. Infomercial on St. Judes Children Fund on CBS here in Eastern Iowa

I keep thinking the media can't get any worse, but somehow they manage it.

[tsuki]

36. Write S. Judes Children's Fund.

[RainDog]

22. underground railroad

About Carl Rising-Moore:

http://www.nuvo.net/archive/2003/11/05/a_new_underground_railroad.html

His book:

http://community.democrats.com/store/details.cfm?item=10180

[RainDog]

23. more here @

Veterans For Peace

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Facing_Iraq_duty_040604.htm

[A Brand New World]

29. I guess I should consider myself lucky to have been able to see it in red

Ohio. I cannot belief the censorship occurring these days. Very disturbing and depressing times we live in. Canada is looking more and more lovely.

[Bigmack]

32. San Diego... 1:35 AM

Billy Graham instead of truth... sounds like the US, alright.

[Tsiyu]

34. yeah, we don't need no stinking truth

Just confess your sins and repent and you are as clean as a bleached bone. No need to see the bloodlust over there. Graham's Jesus doesn't give a damn about maimed Iraqi babies or grieving American mamas. Right, Billy? Your Jesus is a cruel son-of-a-bitch the same as you?

Doesn't Billy Graham realize he is shielding Satan's handiwork :evilgrin:

[tsuki]

37. Write him and tell him so.