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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:07 PM
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Penn and Teller on West Wing
Doing a magic show in the WH. Penn in a great speach about first amendment rights places a folded flag in a rolled up copy of the Bill of Rights and burns the flag away saying "Even though the flag is gone the Bill of Rights remains" One of the characters staring blankly askas another 'Did they just burn a flag in th White House?'


Looks like a good episode
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:08 PM
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1. Aren't they right wingers?
Ever see their hbo show?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:09 PM
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3. They seem to be Libertarians that lean to the left.
As I see them.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:53 PM
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6. I have talked to them
Yes. Libertarians. Sadly. However I suspect that as they see the destruction wrought by increasing deregulation they may change their corporate tune.
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:15 PM
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4. They Believe Evolution & Other Issues That A Lot of Bush Supporters Don't
I love their show btw.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:21 PM
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13. They are huge on critical thinking and science.
Which is nice.

I dont know anything about their politics.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:09 PM
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2. Did Fonzie make it over the shark?
nt
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:01 PM
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7. If it didn't jump it before, it has now.
They ran the preview for next week, and things were looking interesting, even decent, until the announcer said "Did we mention the ASTEROID?"

A freaking ASTEROID???

I had hopes for this season. I really did.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:50 PM
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9. Maybe not "jumping the shark"
We've had a few close calls with asteroids over the past few years - nothing like Armageddon, of course, but there are some impact candidates floating out there that have some astronomers nervous.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:58 PM
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10. But it was the way the announcer presented it...
In this overly dramatic voice...someting like this
"The coming weeks will show that this is the best season ever! Next time on The West Wing...a President will tango...a conflict will boil over onto the stove...and did we mention the asteriod."

(Okay, so President Bartlett won't tango, and there is no stove. I made that up.)

The presentation was way over the top, and I think there's enough tension currently there (although the show is pale comparison to when it Sorkin was still involved) that they don't have to bring a freaking asteroid into the mix.

(It could be one of Leo's "big block of Cheese" days, though. If you watch the show regularly, you'll understand.)
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:18 PM
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11. these teaser commercials JUST SUCK
apparently one of the reasons Sorkin left/forced out was that NBC was pissed off that shows were always finished at the last minute or late, therefore not enough time for the teaser trailer crew to hack job the show to make those "An ER you'll never forget" commercials.

it is probably an obscure mention in the show, but stupid f'ing NBC..... urghh
like toby "resigning"

agree on the cheese reference

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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:24 PM
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15. I just saw another "An ER you'll never forget" commercial last night!
It went something like this: "Every Christmas, ER has an episode that is sure to touch your heart. This season's epsidoe is the best one yet! You will watch, sub-human! You cannot resist us! Watch ER. Waaaaaaatch ER."
Cue voice fadeout and nauseating picture of black and white spiral pattern to hypnotize the viewer into watching ER.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:57 PM
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18. Here is the dialogue from that episode........funny
Toby: It's "Throw Open Our Office Doors To People Who Want To Discuss Things That We Could Care Less About Day"
Mandy: Well, that sounds goofy doesn't it?
Sam: It isn't so bad. You talk to them for a minute. You give them a souvenir pen with the Presidential seal on it.
--
Toby: Leo, wouldn't this time be better spent plotting a war against a country that can't possibly defend itself against us?
Leo: We can do that later, Toby. Right now I'm talking about President Andrew Jackson.
Sam: Actually, right now, you're talking about a big block of cheese.
Leo: And Sam goes on my list!
Sam: What about Toby?
Leo: I'm unpredictable. Jackson wanted the White House to belong to the people so from time to time he opened his doors to those who wished an audience.
Mandy: And then he locked the doors behind them and made them eat two tons of cheese.
Leo: It is in that spirit--
Sam:: Hang on! Mandy doesn't go on the list?
Leo: Mandy's new.
Sam: So it's just me -- on the list?
Leo: Yes.
Josh: Sorry, we're late. Is it 'Total Crackpot Day' again?
Leo: Yes, it is.
Sam: And let us please note that Josh does not go on the list.
Has anyone ever tried to build a highway for wolves?
Well, it seems they often try to build a way to cross a highway for animals since over a million wild animals end up as road kill each year. The Washington Post had an article on Monday, June 2, 2003; called "Animals' Highway Crossings" says, "The idea is to give wild animals a chance to cross a new New York highway without ending up as road kill, so the state is thinking about building special underpasses and culverts so they can travel at their leisure. The only problem is, they don't seem to work." (the link to this article was posted by "kbfried" on Television Without Pity's West Wing Forum

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:41 PM
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16. it's a joke...they weren't serious
the character who tells them about the asteroid is the same buy who was all obsesses several years ago with the space aliens in Area 57 or whatever the hell that place is.

There are just bringing that character actor back for another episode.
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:19 PM
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12. The show totally jumped
as soon as Sorkin left. Its just sad to watch now.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:44 PM
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17. I didn't like the show last year, but I think it is better again this year
I thought maybe they got some of their old writers back this year. I really miss the influence of Sorkin though.
But one thing I am worried about... if they give us a republican President I don't think I'll be able to watch anymore.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:20 PM
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5. was that bernie what's-his-name
in a meeting with pres. bartlett? the guy from cnn (retired) who asked dukakis about his wife being raped.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:08 PM
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8. Shaw, I think
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:23 PM
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14. the fat one is a repub
Jed shouldn't have invited him to perform :-)
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