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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:06 AM
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Ron Paul Denounces National ID Card
Ever wondered what is like to live in a police state?

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=4130

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Congressman Ron Paul today denounced the national ID card provisions contained in the intelligence bill being voted on in the U.S. House of Representatives, while urging his colleagues to reject the bill and its new layers of needless bureaucracy.

National ID cards are not proper in a free society," Paul stated. "This is America, not Soviet Russia. The federal government should never be allowed to demand papers from American citizens, and it certainly has no constitutional authority to do so."

"A national identification card, in whatever form it may take, will allow the federal government to inappropriately monitor the movements and transactions of every American," Paul continued. "History shows that governments inevitably use such power in harmful ways. The 9-11 Commission, whose recommendations underlie this bill, has called for internal screening points where identification will be demanded. Domestic travel restrictions are the hallmark of authoritarian states, not free nations. It is just a matter of time until those who refuse to carry the new licenses will be denied the ability to drive or board an airplane."


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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:08 AM
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1. No one listens to Ron Paul.
Even Republicans think he's a wacko.

Which is unfortunate because he's right this time.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:18 PM
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4. Wacko
translation - he doesn't toe the party line. He actually cares that our civil liberties are being lost.

Does anybody think we can make a coalition with people like him?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:22 PM
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5. Okay, but he also doesn't believe in taxes or federal funding for ANYTHING
He's more of an extreme Libertarian than a Republican.

And no, I don't think we could because the "Ron Pauls" tend to hate Democrats for other government regulation issues.

Maybe, MAYBE on one issue, we could join with them. But not too far beyond.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:35 PM
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6. we need a new party of common sense values that will include
people like him.

The old party system is deader than dirt.

We need a new party that includes people like Ron Paul.

We have FAR more in common with him than we have with our own party, or certainly with the Democratic party.

Ron is fighting the fascist machine, which is what we should all be doing.

It's come to that, Americans vs. Fascists.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:09 AM
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2. remeber in 94
when the wackos were up in arms because WJC wanted people to carry an ID card for national health care? Now they think an ID card to prove your loyalty is just great.

Whatever Limpballs tells them, that's what they believe.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:42 AM
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3. They hate us for our freedom. So let's stop being free! n/t
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