They steal our vote, and some of us say:

[BeFree]

"At this point, they're welcome to it as far as I'm concerned."

Ok, fine, we can't count on you, that's good to know. Meanwhile there are others who are fighting to see that your vote is not stolen again.

But hey, you may not vote again? So anyone who is working to save your vote is wasting their time, eh?

What kind of message is that? You might as well bow down before the king and offer your head to his majesty.

:puke:

[seabeyond]

1. i could remember the bar was before election

surely they wont steal vote again, third time, nation wide, thru balack box and the man that said he would deliver election to bush............i mean. really we put our foot down there

like i watch them use 9/11 and war with iraq in 2002

as i watched bush say didnt lose florida, i will show you my brother stole the vote for me, and my cousin will call the election on fox

as i watched them stomp all over constitution going after clinton and then watched them piss on it with the impeachment

(oh the whole redistricting texas, stealing energy form calif and the califorians vote with recall)

what the hell

yup i hear you

[Ripley]

2. Who exactly is fighting to see the vote isn't stolen?

Oh, you mean Jesse Jackson and that Green Party guy in Ohio?

Uh-huh, let me know what becomes of it. Like in 2000....who exactly in the Democratic Party in Congress fought for the black voters in Florida? Who fought for four years trying to ensure that never happened again?

To continually live in a fantasy world where Kerry speaks in code and is doing backroom maneuvers is bullshit. The people fighting in the streets are NOT PART OF THE MAINSTREAM ESTABLISHED PARTY. Fact.

I hate to repeat myself, but since you decided to start a new thread...

[BeFree]

3. It's you and me, Ripley

We are not the establishment. We are just people. If we are to ever get any semblance of power again, it will be through our votes. It was the only power we had and now they've stolen it from us.

We can't let it stand. We can not give up. Giving up now is the same as saying: I'll be a slave.

[donhakman]

4. NPR

Is just starting to introduce some real cutting edge rhetoric to this story of vote fraud.

Maybe by Inauguration day someone will sacrifice thier career for the truth.

[BeFree]

6. Sacrifice their career?

What? And become a full blown American hero?

What a concept!

[IndyOp]

9. Michael Rectenwald seems to be ready -- he needs SUPPORT

CLG Founder and Chair, Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. -- said "the party with all their damn religious, moral values---how moral is it to steal an election? Do you really believe Bush got all those votes? They stole them---the moved Kerry's votes to Bush----Bush Sr. was having lunch with Osama's brother on 9/11--Do you know that?---Every American should know that--lies, blah, blah, Diebold is a Republican-owned company, these reults are not valid--this isn't a democracy, lies, blah, blah, blah..." He went on and on with more, yelling and boy, he was pissed off.

Rectenwald wants email sent to MSNBC so he will be invited back!
Email: [e-mail]

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=126013>

:bounce:

[Ripley]

7. Was that sarcasm?

I had to laugh. Name one Dem possibility that would sacrifice their career and risk a "Constitutional Crisis" (as the so-called free press would call it)? We all know no one is going to stick their neck out. And that was the point of the other thread that this one is taken from. The lovefest for Hillary or Kerry or Anyone in the the Democratic Party that is in a position of power, is absurd. How many times do people have to get kicked in the teeth before they realize it is not all about the "fraud" or BBV. With all of the horrors this administration has done to our economy our foreign standing our security our domestic policies....how in the hell could anyone lose by such a close margin? There comes a time when you have to say maybe the Democrats are doing something wrong.

Big time.

[IndyOp]

5. I'll be a slave...

That is exactly what it feels like I would have to say to let this pass without a FIGHT. Freedom of speech gone: self-censorship as we live in fear, crackdown on Internet and IndyMedia. The rise of hate speech against homosexuals, Moslems, liberals. The theft of the lives of our young men and women taken into and held captive by the military machine. Economic collapse - the disparity in salaries and standard of living increasing at an exponential rate. Yeah, I'll be a slave... NOT!

:nuke:

[BeFree]

8. Thank you, IndyOp

It's nice to know there are some not so willing to be a slave.

[IndyOp]

10. Thanks BeFree and thanks for this thread

...check out my post about Michael Rechtenwald (just above)!

:hi: