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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:35 PM
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Kitty Kelley got fired cause she dissed smirk in her book

heard this yesterday, don't have a link. she had no idea and was sucker punched with the firing.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:36 PM
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1. Fired from what? She's an author!
:shrug:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:42 PM
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2. didn't catch all of it - she had been with them for yrs., publisher?

the guy told her outright it was because of the negative things she said in the book on the bushes.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:50 PM
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3. Washingtonian Magazine dropping her
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45314-2004Dec7.html


After a relationship of more than 30 years, Washingtonian magazine and writer Kitty Kelley are divorcing, and the terms are not amicable. Kelley is in a snit because the mag unceremoniously booted her from the masthead of its current issue, citing her controversial book "The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty." In an e-mail last week, Editor Jack Limpert lashed Kelley for what he called the book's partisan timing and its irresponsible reporting about President Bush:

"We are always willing to attack the policies, and the behavior, of the President," Limpert wrote to Kelley. "But it seems to us that the office deserves respect. We don't think we should attack a President personally -- his relations with his wife and family, his use of alcohol or other drugs, things like that -- without a very solid basis for doing so. . . . We felt strongly enough that we didn't want readers to feel that your appearance on the masthead meant we endorsed the book."
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:51 PM
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4. think letter to the editor is in order! n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:55 PM
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5. Gee, it's too bad other publishers didn't fire those right wing idiots
that attacked the Clinton's personally.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:49 AM
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23. self deleted
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 10:52 AM by Carl Brennan
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:19 PM
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9. She's rich, she can tell them to get f**ked
Like the former treasury secretary said, he's too rich to care what
the sniping nasty bush familiy will get up to trying to defame him.

I have the kitty book on "the family" and i found it long, accurate
and boring. (and long). Its now on the bottom of the stack
below "the isles" (an even longer british history book).

Kelly should just get on and write another book about swarznegger,
hastert or that asshole repuke who's indicted for crimes in texas.
More power to you kitty... keep up the good work! Getting fired is
now a test of decency it seems... and all along, who would want to
be associated with the cowardly cohorts of the bush crime family.
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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:03 PM
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6. Yeah, I saw something about this too, on msnbc.com...
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 01:04 PM by Frogtutor
Here it is:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6672645/

Apparently her unauthorized biography of the Bush family was not very flattering...I gotta get this book!
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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:05 PM
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7. Sorry; I see someone already got a link up!
It took me so long to find the damn article again, several messages were posted!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:55 AM
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25. I bought it a week ago...haven't gotten into it yet, but I've heard it's
an excellent read!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:00 PM
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8. "Irresponsible reporting"???? Since When?
She has multiple sources for everything. So she could apply her techniques to Jackie O, Nancy RAYGUN, the Royals, but not to the Shrubbites? Yes, I will be looking for an address for a letter to that danged "editor"--or is it, "inquisitor"?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:45 PM
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10. O.K., It's This LIMPERT Dude: jlimpert@washingtonian.com
*******QUOTE*******

http://www.washingtonian.com/about/Staff/John_Limpert.html

WASHINGTONIAN STAFF

Jack Limpert
Editor
jlimpert@washingtonian.com

John A. Limpert has been editor of The Washingtonian since January 1969. Limpert was born in 1934 in Appleton, Wisconsin. He served in the U.S. Air Force from 1954 to 1956, received a B.S. from the University of Wisconsin in 1959, and attended Stanford University Law School for a year.

He started in journalism with the United Press International news service in 1960 in the Minneapolis bureau, then worked in the St. Louis and Detroit bureaus. In 1964, he became editor of the Warren (Michigan) Progress. In 1965, he became editor of the San Jose (California) Sunpapers. In 1967, he became editor of the Washington D.C. Examiner.

In 1968 he was a Congressional Fellow, a one-year program run by the American Political Science Association. He was in the office of Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, and traveled extensively in the 1968 Nixon-Humphrey presidential campaign. After finishing the fellowship, he joined the staff of The Washingtonian.

As a writer he won an American Political Science Association award for distinguished reporting in public affairs. As an editor, he has received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the City and Regional Magazine Association and the Distinguished Service in Local Journalism Award from the Society of Professional Journalists. ....

********UNQUOTE*******
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:00 PM
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11. Here's My E-ltr to Him, Copy to "Reliable Source" & Doubleday
Dear Mr LIMPERT:

This is to complain about your decision to remove Kitty KELLEY from the masthead of Washingtonian directly due to her book about the BUSH family, or actually your reasons specific to George W. BUSH, as reported in the link below.

I am writing here as an individual, not as a representative of any group, not as part of any organized movement complaining about this matter, and not as a follower of Ms KELLEY’s books in the long term, the only ones of which I have read being the ones about Nancy REAGAN and the BUSH family, both within the past year.

In the months before publication of the BUSH family book, I read many internet articles about her, the salient points that emerged being that she had never been successfully sued by any of her subjects and that she invariably documents each item with at least two sources, which amounted to reliability and responsibility in my estimation.

Upon reading the book itself in full, not your “scanning” of it, I found Ms KELLEY’s treatment to be temperate, moderated, and fair. In fact, at times I thought she was glossing over some of the more controversial versions of events, current in other places, such as the BUSH family’s alleged role in funding Nazi activities or the plane crashes and crew deaths in H.W.’s military career.

You are quoted as basing your criticism of her on respect for “the office” and being willing to “attack” the President’s “behavior”---but then as being unwilling to attack him “personally”. It would seem that you distinguish between office/person and simultaneously proceed to ban all descriptions of his behavior as an irresponsible personal attack. Would you have extended the same deference to JEFFERSON, JACKSON, or CLINTON, among many others who were the objects of personal attacks in the extreme, I wonder?

I don’t believe in many conspiracies, but DO believe that there is great strength in networking, such as your magazine owner’s appearing to have a stake in protecting the image of the BUSH family through mutual interests and cronyism. In this context, his directing you or your consulting him overtly could well be unnecessary, just an unspoken imperative in the air.

The bottom line is that for somebody with a role like yours, in professional editing, reading, and writing, it was highly unprofessional and unethical for you not to READ her book in full before passing a judgment and executing an adverse action against her, against anybody. And when your personal relationship with her going back so many years is thrown in, one might suppose that personal betrayal is also a factor.

Sincerely (never to be “Yours”)
/s/
*******QUOTE*******
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45314-2004Dec7.html

.... the mag unceremoniously booted her from the masthead of its current issue, citing her controversial book "The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty." In an e-mail last week, Editor Jack Limpert lashed Kelley for what he called the book's partisan timing and its irresponsible reporting about President Bush:
"We are always willing to attack the policies, and the behavior, of the President," Limpert wrote to Kelley. "But it seems to us that the office deserves respect. We don't think we should attack a President personally -- his relations with his wife and family, his use of alcohol or other drugs, things like that -- without a very solid basis for doing so. . . . We felt strongly enough that we didn't want readers to feel that your appearance on the masthead meant we endorsed the book." ….
…owner Philip Merrill, who she noted "has had a long relationship with George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Dick Cheney." ….

…masthead pruning was routine: -- names of infrequently contributing editors are cut every year. He added, "I never talk to Phil about this."

The editor acknowledged that he has only "scanned" Kelley's book but said that allegations of past drug use by Dubya "crossed the line for responsibility." ….

********UNQUOTE*******
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:56 PM
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13. E-addy for "Reliable": leibyr@washpost.com
Unfortunately, to get a copy to KELLEY, no e-addy is available. Has to be snail mail to Doubleday for forwarding.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:12 PM
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12. Facts about Bush a No No,BS about a Kerry divorce OK to print...
Kelley fired back an email. “I recognize the owner’s influence on his magazine and would understand if you said that you needed to remove me from the masthead in order to preserve your job. In fact, I would applauded your honesty,” she wrote. “Instead, you . . . wrapped your criticism around a pious respect ‘for the office of the President’ and for the private lives of those who occupy the White House. Yet where that same high-mindedness was when the magazine was writing about Bill and Hillary Clinton and publishing rumors in Capital Comment about Julia Thorne’s divorce from John Kerry, I do not know.”

Nazism pure and simple.....

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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:14 PM
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14. A bit of irony
In the introduction to her book she describes how so many people refused to grant an interview because they were afraid of retribution by the Bush fascists. Some potential interviewees called the Bushies thugs, dangerous, vindictive, etc.

This is an outrage and I am firing an angry e-mail to that limpbert (limpy) for short.

We should have an asshole of the week column at DU so that we can heep our wrath on selected targets.

Note, many reporters and writers have been intimidated by the Bushies. Even Ben Bradlee, then editor of the Washington Post.

Bradlee was depicted by Jason Robards in "All the President's Men".

According to Bradlee he was invited by Bush to the White House in early 1991 and the topic of the conversation was Mary McGrory, the 'lone dissenter' on the Post's staff, whose 'sprightly column' rankled Bush. She was the only one on the staff that said anything negative about Bush. Bradlee said:

They want 'em all. They don't want to have a handful of columnists to agree with them, they want 100. If you give them 100 they want two hundred. (Parry, Fooling America, pp.118)

What is doubly ironic is that Robert Parry, the author of Fooling America, was also fired from Newsweek, at the behest of Poppy, after he broke the story on Iran-Contra.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:24 PM
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15. Hmmm... curious
Wonder why they waited so long, the book has been out for several months now. It's not as thought something new cropped up about it this week, as far as I know.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:12 AM
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18. Good question. Maybe limpy was working on a
more lucrative bribe. I'd like to see his bank account, large purchases of late. Just a stab.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:18 AM
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19. Kick for "Waited so long?" The Election. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:33 PM
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16. Poor girl
i bet she's gonna wind up on food stamps :cry: :wow::silly:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:47 AM
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21. You deserve an award for missing the point by the most MILES
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:33 PM
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17. My e-mail to the fucking prick!!
Subject: "Thanks for the Great job"

Thanks for firing Kitty Kelley. We must rid the world of these vile un-Christian like scum who attempt to tell the truth about the Bush Family and their a pResident fortunate son that was never elected to office, took us into an unprovoked war in violation of international law based on false pretenses, bankrupted the country, despoiled the environment, pissed off nearly every nation on earth.

Yea, you are doing a great service to your country by shutting her mouth. I imagine that you are a chickenhawk as well. Someone who sits with a hard on watching the glorious WWII style war images come floating across your TV and dream of your own contribution to re-patriotizing the good ol' USA.

Well I am a Vietnam Era Veteran and I spit on you for the sleazy gutless ass kisser you are and hope that the nasty cowardly act you committed here comes back to bite you in the ass!!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:41 AM
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20. Even Larry King refused to have her on
even though she was a regular when she wrote about Jackie O, Sinatra, Nancy Reagan, and the Royal Family. Maybe the fact that Larry likes having Poppy and Bar, and Smirk and the missus on, too, has something to do with it, and he knows he'd be blackballed by them.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:48 AM
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22. Ah well,more time to have Tammy Fay Baker on,again and again and...
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:50 AM
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24. kick
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 10:56 AM by Carl Brennan
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