Why do "right wingers" seem to hate/dislike women so much?

[Darth_Kitten]

:shrug:

Women try so hard and all they ever seem to get is flak from right wingers. I don't know. (been on a few sites, what have women ever really done to harm these guys? I have my own ideas, but I wouldn't mind hearing some other opinions)

They seem so confused about women. Anything that women do seems to bother them. We cannot educate ourselves, have good jobs, take care of ourselves without getting on some right-winger's last nerve. I've finally had it. ;) :mad: :eyes:

[UTUSN]

1. Why.........Wingnuts Have FREED, LIBERATED Women from the Taliban

WhatEVER would make anybody think they are negative towards wimmen?

[Oldpals]

3. Hate of women by right wingers

Even the "women" on the right seem to hate themselves. Look at Coulter, Conway, Ingraham and Schlessinger. Then here in Chicago we have Eileen Byrne and Terry O'Brien. All raring at the bit to spew their contempt of "liberals" and Clinton.
There is one common denominator for all of these 'women" apart from Schlessinger albeit "she" has her own problems, they are older and single. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[neebob]

18. What's wrong with being older and single?

Hmmm?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

24. Yeah, there are plenty of older and single women in leftist movements

But we're nicer than Ann Coulter and her ilk, so nobody puts us on Fox News. :-)

[UTUSN]

20. According to Judith REGAN, Wingnut Women Want to Screw CLINTON

Probably they hate themselves because they want to and won't for ideological reasons. REGAN is Bernard KERIK's publisher. Look how she savaged CLINTON (3nd link) for his background but hypocritically LOVES KERIK for his similar background.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2779762

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/152/

.... Then Judith and Rupert found each other -- and ReganBooks was born. Not only did their commercial instincts mesh, but Judy's what's-the-world-ever-done-for-me politics were highly compatible with the Murdoch view.

And then the sex part. It's a one-woman show.

I have never heard anyone talk about sex the way Judy does. I have never heard anyone talk about their sexual partners the way Judy does. I have never heard anyone analyze individual motivations, the workings of the marketplace, and politics, too, in such precisely sexual terms. The other day, on her show, she kept interrupting her tempered guests on the subject of why women like Bill Clinton, and, voice rising, saying: "They want to have sex with him -- that's why they like him!"

Early in her career at Simon & Schuster, she published a book called The Rogue Warrior and fought tooth and nail for a full-face cover photo of the author. "Don't they understand?" she stormed to me. "Women will buy this because they want to fuck him!" She got the full face and a best-seller. ....


http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical/newlow.htm

Regan looked straight into the camera and for almost 10 minutes, delivered a pseudo stream-of-consciousness poetry riff mocking Clinton. Referring to his sad boyhood, she mocked his loneliness, then proclaimed that he built himself up and called himself KING, because "I am rich and I can do what I want!" She likened him to the cast out Socks, and envisioned him an old man meeting up with Socks at 125th street, both holding tin cups. ....

It was incredibly vicious. What was especially appalling was how she took the most painful aspects of Bill's background--his truly grievous childhood--and twisted them, using them to mock him. If this wasn't the "politics of personal destruction" I don't know how else you could describe this horrific display. ....

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[newyawker99]

70. Hi Oldpals!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ClintonTyree]

2. They're OK if they know their place.......................

which is in the Kitchen, cleaning, taking care of the kids and ready for sex (their "wifely" duty) at a moment's notice.
It's those uppity women who want to go into the world and take men's jobs away, drive cars and vote that they hate.
If a woman knows her place and stays in it, they'll TOLERATE them, but will NEVER be treated as an equal.
Typical Neanderthal mentality. They have not evolved. They want things to be the way they were 100 years ago and NEVER change.
Freaking pinheads.

[Hamlette]

5. you got it CT

what I don't get is why women go along with it. There are so many "pretty" republican women pundits. Petty in the sense that they spend lots of time making themselves look pretty. I've never figured that out.

Maybe as someone said earlier, they are not married.

[Digit]

40. That's right...

I know, 'cause I tick off the good ol boys down here ALL the TIME!
All I have to do is question a contractor, or whatever what he is going to do or HOW he is gonna do it.
Guess I am one of those "uppity wimmen".

[girl gone mad]

56. What's more,

they have a very romanticized idea of what things were like 100 years ago.

While women were submissive in public, they usually ruled the roost with an iron fist. A man who didn't respect his wife's will at home would be shunned by friends and family. Women had strict roles, but so did men. Most men had little control over their own destinies, and had to meet high expectations.

Today's right-wing men would be all too happy to put women back in the 1800s, but I doubt they would be willing to give up any of the corresponding freedoms they've earned over the last century.

[Demeter]

4. Because Women Hate Them?

And because women refuse to feed their egos. Women don't submit anymore if they can find another way to live. Instead of feeding the bloated male superiority complex, women are building their own strong and independent personalities, priorities and plans.

[amazona]

6. somehow as women it's our fault they're impotent

The great fears of the wingnut are that 1) someone is having a good time without him and 2) some woman might laugh at his small or poorly performing equipment.

They blame us for their own failures, basically.

[I Love Alaska]

7. Radical Feminist

I had a guy in my American Empire history class this week called me a "bleeding-heart, radical feminist" because I suggested that many men refer to America as a she (She needs to be protected; we need to fight for her), but I think America is much more like a "he" in that our country has an aggressive militaristic foreign policy and demonstrated "his" homophobia in the last presidential election.

This one comment him very angry and gave me that nice label-radical feminist. These people seem to enjoy intimidating others.

[apple_ridge]

8. Male repugs hate women because they can't please

them with their small penises.

[neebob]

19. Sure, if you assume

that to be pleased by penises is the main aspiration of women.

[punpirate]

9. First, it's the fundamentalism...

... of the religious right wing. Then, there's the fascist tendencies in the country today (fascism, after all, being a kind of political fundamentalism). Women who are independent, instead of deferring to men, go to work, instead of staying at home, are threats to a very rigid order that these fundamentalists believe should be imposed on everyone, for, in their view, the betterment of society (by returning to a time when men dominated all public and private affairs).

The roots of conservatism are a very fundamental fear of a change in the status quo, one which favors them. Blaming all the ills of society on progress (including women's suffrage) is very easy, but intellectually threadbare.

This is a very attractive message for people who feel that they have somehow lost control of their lives; blaming an entity external to them (women's rights, the government, liberals, etc.) is a natural human reaction which has been exploited by conservatives for decades now. The conservatives have striven to focus the anger these people feel about their circumstances on politically-charged targets--women's rights, liberalism, multiculturism, diversity, cultural corruption--all those aspects of life which are suggestive of change and/or are symbols of inclusionary rights for those these people feel are their inferiors.

I've said it often before, but one of the best explanations available for what's going on now is a book that is not new, and has apparently fallen out of favor in colleges, Eric Hoffer's The True Believer. It's really worth a look, if you can find it in your local library.

Most of here rail against the Rushes and Hannitys and O'Reillys and Coulters of this generation (other generations had theirs--Joe Pyne in `50s, Father Coughlin in the `30s), but often for what they have to say. Rarely is there the recognition that these opinion-makers are actually feeding the anger the disenfranchised feel about their circumstances. Hoffer has much to say about how that works in the scheme of political and religious movements.

Cheers.

[FizzFuzz]

33. thanks you--I'll have to check this book. n/t

[yardwork]

10. Right wingers hate everybody

They even loathe themselves. They are generally miserable, unhappy people with personality disorders. They tend to be social misfits or manipulative psychopaths. They can't handle personal responsibility so they blame everybody and everything for anything that bothers them.

They strive for money and power in a desperate effort to hold back the anxieties that cripple them.

Broad brush? Over-broad generalizations? Sure. But a lot of truth.

[I Love Alaska]

13. I think you are on the right track!

[Gman]

11. Because the Bible says so

or so they think.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

12. Wait a minute...They like Ann Coulter

Oh, I see...

[Ian David]

14. Because you can't drill for petroleum in a woman

[zann725]

47. No, but Man build's his Patriarchal kingdom from offspring she produces

JUST for him...in the name of "family." She's as much a piece of property as any land he conquers, or drills oil on.

[Sugarbleus]

42. In secret, they'd probably like to beat the crap outta her...

They USE her to get their talking points across, but they'd NEVER allow her to do what she does TO THEM.

[ElectroPrincess]

15. Having lived among secular right wingers my entire life, I'll tell you

Wingers hate women who are assertive. Why? Because they're competition within the work force.

They're usually ultra masculine or adore those stereotypes in themselves (or log cabins' in their lovers).

Right wingers despise ANY hit of femininity which they are quick to equate with weakness. Ergo the female type derogatory terms such as "girlie men", pu**y, c**t used when they're cutting up with each other.

Right wingers succeed because they LOVE that "go team" mentality and consider their type of people as inherently superior to others.

The women wingers always defer to men but love to absolutely *rag on* their own gender. This intense hatred is almost as counterproductive as poor working class right wingers voting ONLY on the Gay or Abortion issue to the detriment of their own economic best interests.

Yes, that koolaid is good. Especially if you ONLY talk to other right wingers and thereby "pump each other up" into an "We are superior!" frenzy.

When my freeper friends begin to talk amongst themselves, I immediately leave the scene. It's a sick form of group-think that can piss me off in a heartbeat.

[Nay]

16. 90% of the hate RWers project on anyone or anything is a fear

and hatred of women, IMHO. A good number of them are angry that their wives and/or girlfriends can up and leave them if they get too nasty,since we women now actually hold jobs for most of our lives and do not NEED them for their income. (And isn't that interesting all by itself? Men always complained that they were just "walking wallets" to women, and now that we are making our own money, they hate that, too, saying it is breaking up the family!)

First and foremost, they hate how much they are attracted to us sexually and how little control they have over themselves. I have known few men that could keep their wits about them around women they sexually wanted, but most women easily can disconnect that in themselves. IOW, they want us sexually more than we want them. We are able to separate out sex from daily life, and they think sex IS daily life.

Second, most societies have denigrated anything designated "female" --and, of course, this varied from culture to culture. Examples: OK to dress girl babies in blue, but not boy babies in pink. OK for women to wear pants(although this has been around less than 80 years, remember!) but not for men to wear skirts.(except in Scotland)
In jobs we see the same discrimination, of course, and despite men's babble about how their jobs are simply worth more in pay because, well, they are tougher jobs! just does not hold up under scrutiny. In the 1800's, secretaries were always men and it was a respectable position that could lead to other positions. That changed when it became a female job. Same for store clerks. The RWers are angry that they themselves are being forced to do "female" work -- cleaning up after themselves, typing their own memos, cooking their own food, etc. There should be SOMEONE ELSE doing this stuff for them, and they think women are the ones to do it.

The most damning examples come from other cultures. The USSR used to pay its bus drivers (90% men) 4 times as much as its physicians (80% women) for no discernible reason except the sex of the workers. One Middle Eastern culture had designated rugmaking as primarily a female job which paid nothing, while the Middle Eastern country right next door considered it a male job and it paid well in money and prestige.

Now, in the US, we are seeing the elite consider most of our jobs, no matter who does them, as an unacceptable cost. Minimum wage is too much to pay us. Chinese workers look good, esp female ones who are more fearful of being beaten. And so it devolves.

RWers used to have the little woman at home over whom he had plenty of power. They aren't all wifebeaters, but they knew that ultimate power was with them whether they decided to be brutal about it or not. That is no longer the case. It is also why many more women (and men) do not marry (or marry and divorce quickly) -- women do not need money enough to put up with the extra work and possible brutalization, and many men do not marry because they can see they would not have the power that they would want in a male/female relationship.

The fact that many RW men do not have someone around who will always be lower on the totem pole than he is (i.e., the economically enslaved wife) makes them feel that THEY are the lowest on the totem pole now. In many cases this is quite correct -- they are nothing in the eyes of the elite who hire and use them like Kleenex. It's not women's fault, but that's who they blame for their amorphous feelings of rage.

[libra]

26. Damn

Damn, that was good, Nay.

[Nikia]

28. Good analysis

I agee with all your points.

[FizzFuzz]

32. Thanks!! Good reading you.

:thumbsup:

[Bemis]

36. Its the POWER

I have to agree, its the Power.

Its the perceived power that they think they were born with. And its also the thought of losing that power to women (or anyone else) that makes them angry and fight for what they believe they are entitled to.

[newyawker99]

71. Hi Bemis!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[bobbieinok]

38. also change in perception of teachers when there are more women

and the back and forth about school principals....more women at elementary level, used to be nearly all men

potential problem with doctors and lawyers and judges with increasing numbers of women students in medical and law school.....read somewhere that women now make up more than 50% of students.....

[bobbieinok]

39. consider US secretary of state....last 3: 2 women, 2 black....position

going down

[bloom]

46. yes, unfortunatly...eom

[Nobody]

62. You have hit it on the nose - fear and loathing

And you might have already read "Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven" where the early Christian authorities diminished female participation and made sex out to be a disgusting, filthy body function barely excused because you can't have kids without it.

Your comment about men needing sex more than women do seems to be a thread that runs through the entire book. I can't speak for men in general any more than I can speak for other women, and there are men who truly are able to set it aside for a while. I know two guys who are in their 40s and still virgins.

If men do need sex more than women, human history seems to turn this around and accuse all women as being sluts. Even in America the so-called enlightened country, all it takes to brand a teenage girl as a slut is for one person to call her one. It doesn't have to be true or even feasible. It makes no difference. Girls' reputations hung by a very thin thread and that reputation determined how everyone treated her. You claimed the same of a boy and you were the one labeled as a slut. After all, how else could you know?

Since women are all sluts, therefore men are excused and the woman becomes the adulterer. And she's the one who is stoned, expelled from school (thankfully not anymore). Men do most of the raping and women are the ones wearing the burkas and being restricted to the house.

Have you seen "The Magdalene Sisters"? This is an arthouse movie I saw a couple years ago. This was based on true accounts of the women who were there. In Ireland, there were several Magdalene Laundries. The last one closed as recently as the early 80s. Girls were sent there for being sluts.

They lived there for the rest of their lives and did other people's laundry. It follows four girls. One had a child out of wedlock and was being molested by a priest. One is an orphan who was pretty and liked to flirt. Never mind that she was still a virgin. All it took was one word whispered in the right ear. One was a girl raped by her cousin who dared to report it to her mother. One was an unwed mother who gave birth minutes previously and hadn't had time to recover.

We aren't given any information as to how the moms got pregnant but at least two of the girls were innocent victims. Those with families were sent there by their families. We see a fifth escape and be brought back by her father.

It wasn't the nuns' brutality I thought to be the worst abuse, it was the parents who had so little love and compassion for their own daughters.

[stanwyck]

67. kudos

on your post.

[KT2000]

17. Fear - Fear - Fear

There are so many things that RWers fear about women who are not "under control."

I think that first and foremost, RW men are conflicted about their sexuality in the sense of "is it good or bad?" This turmoil is witnessed by the woman in their life. The woman also knows if the guy is good at it or not - and that is a scary thing for a puffed up head of household. Therefore defensive measures must be employed to make sure the woman can never tell on the guy, or if she does, no one would believe her.

They are also afraid of "women's intuition" because they can not control it. That is a power that many women have that must be neutralized.

Religious and conservative belief annoints the male with all the power. No matter how much of a loser the guy is - he is better than all women on earth according to these beliefs. Keeping that power is dependent on keeping women down.

At the end of the day - it amounts to hate.

[lawladyprof]

30. I wondered if their intense emphasis on abstinence before marriage

is related because of the fear of being compared to a better partner. After all, if a wife has only had sex with her husband there is no danger (assuming no adultery) that she could compare his performance (and find it wanting/lackluster) to another man.

[TahitiNut]

43. That's a big part of it, imho.

I definitely get this impression from guys I knew who were conservative. Definitely. It's sad that they cannot regrad 'love' as anything other than another zero-sum game ... some competition that they cannot score well in unless they gang up in some kind of mob. Individually, they're accustomed to having no self-esteem - requiring props and uniforms and emblems. They wave flags, wear uniforms, carry weapons, and use such ego crutches constantly, never developing a simple faith in themselves.


Quite frankly, I'd run like hell from any woman who thought so simplistically. If she's after 'performance' then she wants a 4 foot dildo, not a lover and partner. I don't ever want to try and carry something baby-sized in my shorts - enough to challenge the 'capacity' of someone who's never heard of Kegel.

But "right wingers" come in the woman package, too. :shrug:

[KT2000]

45. I strongly believe that

Anecdote: Had a conversation with a young married woman who was religious and her husband was from a missionary family. The young woman had a normal life prior to her marriage and had sex with a boyfriend when she was in college.
She later married the young man from the missionary family who was a virgin when he got married to her.
After the marriage he would not let her forget her "sin" of having had sex with another man. This poor girl was so confused, she was complaining to me that there was no way she could fix what she had done wrong - in the eyes of God - and she did not know what to do, but she could not live with her husband's disapproval.

I suggested to her that her husband's objections were likely not faith-based but rather fear-based. He was afraid of the comparison to the other guy. I could tell by her face that she knew that too. I hope that she realized some day that she was actually being abused by this jerk.

I think their obsession with sex is at its core sick - they probably really are lousy at it but their solution is not to learn about it but hide it even more. It is a pathology that has gone national!

[durutti]

21. Read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807043443/ref=wl_it_dp/002-1182482-7109610?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3D1OAXM19WO2O&v=glance&colid=1PMKEGJ0RBT7C

[Lydia Leftcoast]

51. I couldn't help noticing

how the first two reviewers (freepers) exemplified the book's thesis perfectly! :7

[Kber]

22. They are afraid they can't handle the competition.

If there were anything like a level playing field for social and economic opportunity, it would mean opening the door to the 70% of the population that isn't white and male. Think about it - if you are in the middle of the pack with the deck so completely stacked in your favor, where will you be if we really had a society that wasn't racist and sexist? (I refer you to the us dept of labor stats on wages for women and minorities compared to white men with comperable education and experience. They ain't pretty!)

[UdoKier]

23. Don't forget, you can't have an opinion or act unfeminine, either.

All the ire that was directed at Teresa Heinz Kerry for her slightly acidic way of expressing herself was EXTREMELY sexist. I found her quite refreshing to the Stepford Wife, Laura.

And I saw a lot of comments calling Elizabeth Edwards "frumpy and fat". God forbid anybody get to know something about these people beyond the sheerest of superficialities.

I NEVER have seen a Dem pundit on TV attacking Laura Bush for her simpering submissiveness and suppression of her own intellect, or her stuffy way off dressing or her oh-so-GOP hair and makeup. We give her credit for her grace, niceness and attractiveness. Can't the GOP EVER give our women credit for their smarts and individuality?

And don't get me started on Hillary!

[CBHagman]

61. Good points, plus add the disconnect between...

...the GOP's/RW's loudly proclaimed ideals and what they practice in reality.

Teresa Heinz Kerry was apparently a strict mother (i.e., limiting TV and junk food) and apparently did a good job with her sons. Laura Bush, meanwhile, is proclaimed "comforter in chief," but do her daughters give the impression that they are rock-solid citizens? (That's the kindest way I can put it). Who's really minding the children?

I could get into other examples -- Chelsea Clinton, the Wellstone kids -- but you get the idea. The GOP proclaims that they are the party of family values and are eager to condemn any sin among Democrats, but they don't want anyone to scrutinize their families too carefully.

Other disconnects concern Laura Bush's supposed concern for education and libraries (i.e., she dropped both as soon as she married, and her husband has asked for cuts in literacy programs and so forth), and Phyllis Schlafly's gushing about the sacred privilege of being supported by one's husband (while she has a career herself).

[RetroLounge]

25. Fear and Stupidity

RL

[Lydia Leftcoast]

27. Two factors

1. Working class men in particular are very insecure. The upper classes in the South encouraged racism to keep workers from uniting, and white working class people could console themselves by thinking, "Well, at least I'm not a n*****." Another way in which they can feel better about their crappy lot in life is that at least they're not women. In order to maintain their own egos, they have to keep women on a subordinate level and run away from the feminine sides of their own natures. Even worse, they bring up their sons to despise anything feminine.

2. All fundamentalist religions that I know of downgrade women, because the ultimate enemy of their Puritanism is sexuality. Scratch a fundamentalist Christian or Muslim, a retrograde Catholic, an ultra-Orthodox Jew, or certain sects of Buddhists, and you'll find hatred and fear of women. Read what some of the medieval Catholic preachers and the medieval Buddhist preachers wrote about women, and you'd have trouble telling the difference. If you're trying to keep a group of men dedicated to a grim, rigid way of life, what's the greatest threat to your control--they're going to think about sex. So you externalize the threat, call women "evil temptresses," and keep them under control through suppression or separation.

[SoCalDem]

29. They do not hate women........they hate

"uppity" wimmin...

A "good" woman to them, is

one who never questions authority of her husband,boyfriend,father,teacher,boss etc.

one who cheerfully foregos her own education so she can "help" her man get through HIS education

one who is content to be a "helpmate" to her man...and is not interested in self-aggrandizement

one who is eager to "populate the world"...

one who is happy to elevate her "man" to godlike status, and tend to his every need..



The ideal woman is patterned after the 50's sitcom wife/mother

June Cleaver..Donna Reed... and of course The Stepford Wives fit the mold as well..:)

[FizzFuzz]

34. and they hate women who squelch themselves into this mold too,

notwithstanding superficial admiration of the sort commemorated by Mother's day flowers. They hate women who don't fit this mold because they're threatening, they hate women who do fit this mold because they're intellectually dull, petty and demanding. Hey who wouldn't get neurotic after destroying their own personhood?

[TahitiNut]

44. Gee... you make it sound good.

:silly: :evilgrin: :dunce:

[SharonAnn]

55. But, but, but Donna Reed was a "working woman"

[leesa]

66. And June Cleaver was a single parent

[SoCalDem]

69. Not on the TV show,,

The republifreaks watched those shows and BELIEVED what they saw..

[Fleurs du Mal]

31. God > man > woman > child > nature

The silly old pyramid, you know :eyes: :puke:

[sundancekid]

35. RW nuts are all about subjugation, disenfranchisement and step-on

to squash any other diverse communities ... they sure as hell don't walk the talk they want you to believe they talk ... repuke hypocrites who wield power in nazi-like fashion, with impunity and a bible (just to add desecration to insult and injury)

[Oldpals]

37. Repug women pundits

I wonder if they need to sex but can't get anyone to oblige. Can any of the men here imagine conducting foreplay with Coulter,Ingraham, Conway (after the makeup has been removed(surgically)) or lo and behold, Schlessinger? There lies the crux of the problem, lol.
P.S. An awful afterthought, can anyone imagine Hannity and Coulter doing it? Ahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahhh

[Sugarbleus]

41. Men of that mindset are AFRAID of us.

"Someone" told them centuries ago that women were bad, that they would rob them of their "strength". We do out live them, nyuk nyuk :evilgrin:

They can't do what we do, there are less of them. They are afraid of our "Power". We are the "sacred feminine"...they'd rather have a male diety figure to relate to because their testosterone ridden brains DON'T LIKE SHARING: power, place, or resources.

They don't want us aborting any MALE offspring of theirs..."hey, one of those aborted could be a Messiah" (I've heard that argument so many times in reference to anti-abortion issues)=o/

All of this is generally speaking and is not inclusive of the enlightened minds of men in DU. :loveya:

[FizzFuzz]

54. I was on an overpopulation rant and this little born again girl said

"But he could be the next Albert Einstien!!" And I said "Or the next Jeffrey Dahmer!! The Bell Curve goes both ways!!!"

(this was a chat in real life)

[Sugarbleus]

58. LOL....great come back!!

I'll have to remember that one. (heehee)

[FizzFuzz]

59. hee hee *wink* every now and then I get it right!

It sure made her stop dead in her tracks too. I can't say whether it actually made her THINK, but I could see the gears jam.

That Albert Einstien defense they always use is so typical of unexamined romanticizing of birth and parenting. Pisses me off. It would be so much more healthy if people looked at the whole picture.

If you want to read a really heartbreaking novel about the best intentions gone horribly wrong, read "We Need To Talk About Kevin". Its about a couple who's first child turns out to be a psychopath. From a young age, the kid is cruelly malicious and destructive, despite the best efforts of his mother. Father is in denial, sees only the sweet charade the boy shows him and constantly undermines the mother, ignoring or humiliatingly dismissing her concerns, favoring the son always. The results are tragic. It's not an easy read, but you can't put it down. And it tells some truths that parents and particularly women, are never stimulated to talk about.

[amazona]

63. that's a damn good book

I read that recently and really liked it. Great story.

Another in the same vein is The Fifth Child by Doris Lessing.

[tanyev]

48. Whatever it is,

I suspect it is exactly the same reason as a right-wing fundamentalist Muslim. Just different sides of the same coin. Maybe American RWers are a bit more angry because women here have more protection in the eyes of the law than they do in a very strict Islam country.

[roguevalley]

49. Because we live longer. Because we can usually get around

their sorry asses anyway. Because they're all closet pussies.

[kodi]

50. they do like them. they like them to shut the hell up & get on their backs

to rightwingers women are the avatar of Eve who disobeyed and caused human suffering. they want to keep her in her place so she does not cause anymore trouble.

[smirkymonkey]

52. Because, behind all the macho posturing, they are WEAK!

And not being able to accept their own weakness, they project it on to women and gay men and despise them for it.

The same thing with their sexuality, they can't control their sexual urges, so again they project this lack of self control onto women (and, once again, gay men - note the rampant homophobia on the right as well) and demonize them for it.

Secure men (liberals) are able to accept thier humanity in its entirety and are therefore not as likely to project their darkness on to others.

[sweetheart]

53. They are impotent, and afraid

Those older men blame women for their own disfunction, physically,
spiritually and politically. The world is screwed up 'cuz some
teenagers never left emotional puberty.... its really pathetic.

[Cats Against Frist]

57. Remember our critical theory

In the "binary" of MAN and WOMAN, MAN is the "one" and WOMAN is the "zero."

WOMAN is the abscence of MAN. WOMAN is defined by MAN. Logic is male constructed.

As in Adam and Eve, WOMAN is the downfall of man -- as the temptress, she has power over MAN; as the keeper of the womb, she has power that a MAN doesn't have; as the libertine, she is the antithesis of order.

Men who are not afraid of women circumvent societal constructs and traditional notions of gender and gender roles. It takes a man willing to defer his biological dominance to women -- something that is a feat not unlike other forms of egalitarianism -- and the teachings of Christ -- something that right-wingers simply can't grasp...

[femme.democratique]

72. Cats Against Frist! Best name ever! eom

[RPM]

60. Womb envy....

... They want to be all-powerful; yet are powerless to create life (without a consenting partner).

That's my theory. Since they cant do it themselves, subjugate those who can.

[UncleSepp]

64. If they're envious of it, they can have mine (ow) n/t

[RPM]

65. I am sure there is some RW loony scientist who wants to try that... n/t

[Guarionex]

68. girl...they want you in the kitchen, and to suck their dicks...

that's pretty much it...they want you to be obedient to them WHEN they want it...

My guess conservatives are just angry because one or two girls in their lives told them they had little dicks....

Just my opinion...