Guiliani political stock in doubt - Newsday

[rndmprsn]

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/politics/nyc-anal1212,0,3886499.story?coll=nyc-homepage-headlines

The short, embarrassing nomination of Bernard Kerik ended with a whimper and so, too, has Rudolph Giuliani's Teflon period -- a three-year stretch when his status as "America's Mayor" largely obscured his own shortcomings and the foibles of close associates.

Giuliani is still regarded as a serious presidential contender in 2008, but his political stock seems to have taken its first major tumble since he emerged as a national figure after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The Kerik debacle has also raised doubts about Giuliani's judgment in pushing his protege's nomination, considering Kerik's nanny troubles and an emerging string of unflattering business, personal and legal entanglements.

"It's an embarrassment for Giuliani if Giuliani wants to be president," said GOP consultant Nelson Warfield, who was Bob Dole's press secretary during the 1996 presidential campaign. "He's Kerik's biggest promoter and either he was reckless or uninformed, and neither of those things qualifies you for president. You'll never find anyone to say it, but this is a big negative with the Bush White House."

[Mika]

1. "considering Kerik's nanny troubles"

Amazing press priorities. :crazy:

[pleiku52cab]

2. I'll bet awol is just all atwitter and snitting

all over the place about the Kerik fiasco. Betcha he's really pissed at Giuliani too. Now that awol has milked the 9/11-Giuliani connection for what he can get out of it, I see Rudi's star really fading fast. KKKarl must be having a fit.

[aquart]

3. A divorced womanizer with a cancer history?

Giuliani was NEVER going to be president. And Bush was NEVER going to allow Giuliani any job in the administration where he might outshine Bush. Bush isn't forgiving and 9/11 was Rudy's triumph, not George's no matter how many TV movies they make.

So I have no idea why Rudy spent so many months shining George's shoes all over the country.

And NOTHING about the Kerik nomination makes sense to me. This guy wasn't a secret. One google would have done it. And George LIKES filthy candidates, look at Gonzales. George adores nominations that rub our noses in his transcendant power. So what happened with Kerik?

[pretzel4gore]

5. the mediawhores!

look no further. The mediawhores see bush's nomination of kerik as too reckless; possibly a blowback sitution if kerik actually got the job (abandoning the korean child etc)....otoh knowing these pigs, it's likely kerik was part of 'poor bush, he's so alone and everybody hates his guts' stage of playing up geeb's loneliness at the top etc....plus filling up the news cycle with an item that while embarassing still gives the mediasluts a weapon to point out clinton had same problems; the main thing is the news is full of 'wise guys pontificating' over a joker who probably wouldn't get security cleared to drive a vip limo.....

[UdoKier]

6. ...who LOVES to dress up in drag.

[Swamp Rat]

10. HAHAHA!

GREAT pic of Giuliani... I mean Gina. :D

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. I read some where that they found out

he has a warrant out for his arrest in NJ. Something about not paying for a condo he bought. You would think with all the money he made from insider trading that he could at least pay his bills.

[Sara Beverley]

4. That's what I'm talking about!! No way for Rudi to survive this.

He's too close to the man, the money they both made off of 9/11 is obscene. Think about it. While some young men and women are being killed and maimed in Iraq, what the hell did Kerik or Rudi do to earn 6 million? What contribution to democracy, society, or even their own neighborhood did either of them make? And now they are richer by far for exploiting the 9/11 tragedy. Walking around with a big megaphone does not make one a hero and neither does sucking up to Bush while smearing a true war hero like Kerry make you someone to be admired, respected, and trusted with the nation's security.

Bush is so eager to reward his ass-kissers that he is making all kinds of bad appointments and the sad thing about it some of the Dems are acting as though his appointments are great.

Folks, our children are being killed and maimed for the likes of this administration...it's not about freedom or democracy. It's about oil and saving face. It's about Iraq having "better targets" than Afghanistan. It's about making a war in order to get the country behind a dope of a President who actually lost the election and was placed into the position by some fast sharp SCOTUS foot work.

It's time for impeachment proceedings to begin. Can Sen. Byrd start the ball rolling?

[goclark]

9. I love Byrd!

I wish there was some kind of miracle and the impeachment could start ASAP.

[Sara Beverley]

7. Rudi has been all over the TV my sister tells me. Trying to divert

attention from the real big issues concerning Kerik. It's not really the Nanny thing...it's a lot more.

[Yavin4]

8. I Suspect That They Used The Nanny Thing As An Out

He probably didn't even have a nanny problem at all because that would have been the first thing they would have checked out.

[rndmprsn]

12. yeah...there's got to be some other major skeletons.

that are going to come out soon, perhaps.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Anyone who thinks Rudi or Arnold are GOP "contenders"

for the presidency has their head up their respective rectii.. (And don't understand the Republican/Theocracy Party, to boot.) They would sooner gnaw off their own feet than nominate a pro-choice candidate for President. Period. End of fucking story.

[Devil Dog Dem]

14. "either he was reckless or uninformed . . ."

". . . this is a big negative with the Bush White House."

WTF???

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

[BenDavid]

15. Well hell!

He was given a free pass by the press while he was parading his mistress around New York and every place he went. Hell, if that was not enough, he even took her to Mass, and no one said a word as his wife and child were home and having to live through this. But noooooooooooo a damn republican can get away with open adultry but let the Big Dawg get a blow job and there is a Constitutional crisis. Oh my my..... and while he was mayor was he not responsible for maintaining the fire and police departments with equipment, and was there not enough of equipment ie radios, etc. Hell, I do not see him as a presidential candidate because if that be the case then all the so called high moral republicans with their values would have to commit hypocrisy by even letting him be the candidate of the party... But stranger things have happened because when you have G-d on your side you can speak for G-d and say G-d wanted this.... Well, and this goes for McCain as well. What some of you say he was a hero from Nam. Bullshit. He was into self preservation but then again there is the press that fell to their knees to kiss his ass in 2000 and will again with either him or Rudy in 2008... And I would ask that the Democrats put before the House or the Senate a Constitutional Amendment that clearly states that " No relative, whether they be blood or adoptive of one Prescott Bush be ever allowed to hold the office of President of the United States from the effective date of January 20, 2005.
I AM BEN-DAVID AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.......