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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:06 PM
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BFEE "Suicides" Journalists
Seems journalists who oppose the BFEE end up in a bad way. Gary Webb "shot himself in the head" Friday morning, according to the police.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/10399522.htm?1c


What Webb did to hurt the BFEE's feelings is he tied the CIA's Iran-Contra gang to the crack cocaine epidemic in America's major metropolitan areas. To the Bush gang, telling the truth made Webb an enemy.

http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/garywebb/garyWebbSpeaks.htm


Here are a few others who actually had the guts to investigate the Bush Family Evil Empire:

Daniel “Danny” Casolaro— Researched BCCI and the Inslaw/PROMIS Affair, found that George HW Bush had ties going around the world and back through Iran-Contra, Iraq-gate, the October Surprise, Watergate, Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs and Dallas. A “suicide.”

http://www.cjr.org/archives.asp?url=/91/6/octopus.asp


Abbie Hoffman — Yippie of the 60s turned into an investigative reporter in the 80s, researched and wrote about “October Surprise” allegations involving George HW Bush, Bill Casey and Robert Gates doing a deal with the Ayatollah Khomeini to delay the release of the hostages in 1980. The pretty good overview appeared in Playboy in 1992. A “suicide.”

http://www.democracyunbound.com/playboy1088.html


Steve Kangas — Researcher and writer who started “Liberal Resurgent” web site dedicated to naming names like Richard Mellon Scaife and telling the truth about what was happening to America. Wrote the seminal “The Origins of the Overclass” which detailed the role of the CIA in preserving the privileged positions of the nation’s wealthiest individuals and corporations. A “suicide.”

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html


Jim Hatifield — Researcher and writer who penned “Fortunate Son,” an unauthorized biography of George W Bush that included allegations of cocaine use, planted by Karl Rove, who knew that Hatfield, an ex-con would be discredited. The last thing Hatfield wrote “Why Would Osama Want to Kill His Ex-Business Partner?” that detailed bin Laden threatening to crash a plane loaded with explosives into the G-8 summit in Genoa Italy in July 2001. Bush slept offshore aboard a US warship and the meeting was guarded by SAMs. A “suicide.”

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html


Mark Lombardi— Artist and researcher who developed “Global Networks” or “Social Network Diagrams” which illustrated and chronicled the relationships between many of our day’s shadiest characters, institutions and treasons. One of his works graphically charted Osama bin Laden, Sheik Salim bin Laden, James R Bath, Texas Gov George W Bush and HARKEN Energy. A “suicide.”

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2&contentid=1012&page=2


There are many more examples of brave journalists who’ve investigated the Octopus and turned up “suicided.”



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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:13 PM
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1. Yes, Poppy's hands are as blood tainted as Junior's are.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:43 PM
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6. Poppy's bloody fingerprints are all over Dallas on 22 November 1963
In this FBI memo reports that within MINUTES of President John F. Kennedy's murder, George Herbert Walker Bush reported his suspicions regarding one James Parrott.



In this FBI memo, J Edgar Hoover reports that "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" interviewed pro-Castro and anti-Castro Cubans in Miami. Bush seems to clear the anti-Castroites, some of whom are now suspected as being involved in the assassination.



SOURCE:

http://www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:59 AM
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52. Ummmm, hate to piss on this particular parade...
...but do you see that little "stamp" on the lower right hand side of the first "Memorandum" you posted? The one that has the "written" annotation "62-2115-6" on top?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:49 AM
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80. Yes, What's the Significance?
Hi, T Town Jake -

Yes, it's a declassification stamp. Have seen that document before - believe it's part of the National Archives collection declassified pursuant to a lawsuit filed by the National Security Archives JFK Assassination Project. What do you mean by that, T Town?

- Mark
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:47 AM
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122. If Webb was offed, here's why: ARMY RECRUITING EXPOSE!
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 11:49 AM by JohnOneillsMemory
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-10-14/cover.asp
We wonder what new threat he posed if he was still around at this point after exposing the CIA/Cocaine connection, right?

If Webb was rubbed out (likely, not proven), I think THIS IS WHY:

There is a 'Peak Soldier' problem just like 'Peak Oil,' not enough on hand to fuel the war machine for the neo-con's Extended World Tour.

HE EXPOSED HOW THE ARMY PROFILES AND TRAINS TEENS USING PSY-OPS ON THE INTERNET AND VIDEO GAMES! AND THE US MILITARY IS COLLAPSING NOW!

Lack of not just fodder, but highly-skilled kids who can kill effectively under stress are what the BFEE/PNAC Empire DESPERATELY NEEDS TO CONQUER THE WORLD by operating the machines of war.

A sophisticated 'first-shooter' game called 'Americas Army' was developed by the US military to both train, indoctrinate, and research the young minds they need. Free on line. Very popular.

Webb had the drop on them for using cocaine money and he had the drop on their NEW SCAM-USING THE DRUG OF VIDEO GAMES TO EXPLORE AND BEND MINDS. (Of course, that's what TV has been doing for over 50 years.)

Read it and weep for both our kids and their victims:

>snip<

If, like the U.S. Army, you need people who can become unflappable killers, there’s no better way of finding them. It’s why the Army has spent more than $10 million in taxpayer funds developing its very own first-person shooter, and why the Navy, the Air Force and the National Guard are following suit.

>snip<

“I have to laugh when someone says, ‘Oh, the people playing these games know it’s not real,’” said Dr. Peter Vorberer, a clinical psychologist and head of the University of Southern California’s computer game research group. “Of course they think it’s real! That’s why people play them for hours and hours. They’re designed to make you believe it’s real. Games are probably the purest example yet of the Internet melding with reality.”

>snip<

Stanford University psychology professor B.J. Fogg isn’t surprised to see such dedication to a computer game.

“Video games, better than anything else in our culture, deliver rewards to people, especially teenage boys," said Fogg, who studies the effects of computer games. “Teenage boys are wired to seek competency. To master our world and get better at stuff. Video games, in dishing out rewards, can convey to people that their competency is growing, you can get better at something second by second."

>snip<

As the number of people playing Counter-Strike soared into the millions, the U.S. Army could only watch wistfully. For years, Army recruiters had diligently pursued the very same demographic-- middle-class teenage males--with dwindling success.

In late 1999, after missing their recruiting goals that year, Army officials got together with the civilian directors of a Navy think tank at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey to discuss ways of luring computer gamers into the military.

Combat gamers not only happened to target the right age for the Army’s purposes but, more importantly, possessed exactly the kind of information-processing skills the Army needed: the ability to think quickly under fire.

“Our military information tends to arrive in a flood ... and it’ll arrive in a flood under stressful conditions, and there’ll be a hell of a lot of noise,” said Col. Casey Wardynski, a military economist who came up with the idea for an official Army computer game. “How do you filter that? What are your tools? What is your facility in doing that? What is your level of comfort? How much load can you bear? Kids who are comfortable with that are going to be real comfortable ... with the Army of the future.”

From an Army report: “Aptitudes related to information handling and information culture values are seen as vital to the effectiveness of the high-tech, network-centric Army of the future, and young American gamers are seen as especially proficient in these capabilities. More importantly, when young Americans enter the Army, they increasingly will find that key information will be conveyed via computer video displays akin to the graphical interfaces found in games.”

With the vast funding of the U.S. government behind them, the Army/Navy team began developing a game that hopefully would turn some of its players into real soldiers. “The overall mission statement ... was to develop a game with appeal similar to the game Counter-Strike,” wrote Michael Zyda, the director of the Navy think tank. “We took Counter-Strike as our model, but with heavy emphasis on realism and Army values and training.”

An experimental psychologist from the Navy helped tweak the game’s sound effects to produce heightened blood pressure, body temperature and heart rate. It was released in digital double surround sound, which few games are. In terms of game play, it was designed as a “tactical” shooter, slower-paced, more deliberate, but with Counter-Strike’s demanding squad tactics and communications--a “serious” game for kids who took their war gaming seriously.

After two years of development, America’s Army was released to the public on the first Fourth of July after 9/11. The gaming world gasped and then cheered. Contrary to expectations, the government-made shooter was every bit as good a $50 retail shooter and, in some ways, better. Plus, it was free--downloadable from the Internet at www.americasarmy.com. That, too, was a calculation--one the Army hoped would weed out people who didn’t know much about computers. The game and its distribution system were difficult by design, Zyda said.

“That was a very key thing. First, they would have to be smart enough to download the game off the Internet. Then, they would have to become good at , which isn’t easy. To attract those kinds of people, that was the mission. That’s what we were looking for.”

The game does a good job separating the wheat from the chaff. Before you’re allowed to join an online game, you must undergo weapons training and send your firing range scores to the Army. If you’re a lousy shot, you can’t play. Once inside the game, it gets no easier. The virtual battlefield is enormous, and your enemy is often hidden under cover of darkness. “Newbies” are quickly cut to pieces. Unlike Counter-Strike, America’s Army players aren’t allowed to be on the terrorists’ side. Your team always looks like American soldiers, and the other team always looks like terrorists (or “OPFORs” in Army lingo, meaning “opposing forces.”)

In the wake of 9/11, the public and media reaction was, in the Army’s words, “overwhelmingly positive.” Salon’s Wagner James Au, for example, gushed that the game would help “create the wartime culture that is so desperately needed now” and excitedly anticipated the day when youngsters raised on America’s Army would pick up real weapons to cleanse the globe of real terrorists. Most media accounts focused on the novelty of using a video game to help find recruits and carried jocular headlines like “Uncle Sim Wants You.”

“We thought we’d have a lot more problems,” Zyda said. “But the country is in this mood where anything the military does is great. ... 9/11 sort of assured the success of this game. I’m not sure what kind of reception it would have received otherwise.”

There are now more than 4 million registered users, more than half of whom have completed weapons training and gone online to play, making it the fourth most-played online shooter. The Army says there are 500 fan sites on the Web, and recruiters have been busy setting up local tournaments and cultivating an America’s Army “community” on the Internet, hoping to replicate the Counter-Strike phenomenon.

“With respect to recruitment, actual results won’t be known for four or five years, when the current raft of 13- and 14-year-olds will be old enough to join,” Zyda wrote.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:15 PM
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2. You're one of the few people I've heard refer to "The Octopus".
I applaud your collection.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:48 PM
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8. Would give any thing to avoid having to cross paths with them.
The brave people on that listing are just a few who've gone up against The Octopus. Given time, we can come up with a list of journalists, politicians, business people and regular folk whose only "crime" was to oppose these NAZIs.

PS: Sticking together through DU and other forums may protect those who are aware of such men and women. We must keep spreading the Truth. Our numbers will grow. And may we jail them before they kill us.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:39 PM
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29. Awww,...have confidence, my friend,...a record is being compiled.
A record replete with hard evidence,...among and through and by all of us.

An "octopus" cannot live without us,...the ocean.

Yes?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:11 PM
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34. Yes. The ocean.
Thanks for the kind words, Just Me. Much appreciated.



In Stanislaw Lem's "Solaris," the Ocean is a single
(or is it a "group"?) being that encompasses the surface
of a planet. In the book, mankind has studied the world
for more than a century, with no luck at "contact."
One day the planet decides to communicate
with the earth beings by creating people
from their memories. For some, the beings are ghosts
brought back to life.

My memory will stay sharp, no matter how much bushwa comes
out of ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutwork. Gary Webb represents
another spirit who lives within those who understood his work.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:13 AM
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82. Solaris -
Hi, Octafish -

Note what happened to the security team that first arrived to investigate the deaths aboard the space station orbiting Lem's sentient planet. Their violent memories and fantasies came back to life causing them to kill each other, rendering them harmless. That is what I suspect will happen with the nasties now being recruited to replace the CIA and FBI counter-terrorism professionals who've resigned.

The arrival of the thoughtful, melancholic character played by Clooney is humanity's salvation. If we all have any hope, it will be that we with love in our hearts rather than the they are taken as representative human beings.

By the way, you should see the Soviet version of Solaris made in the 1970s. It's actually a good film. I also liked the 2002 remake.

Just finished reading Lem's collection of short stories, "A Perfect Vacuum" <1971> Interesting how under totalitarian societies, such as Poland, political writers could only survive disguised as science fiction.

Look at what's been happening here.

- Mark
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:07 AM
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88. Lem is Great.
Thanks for the reminder, Mark. Stanislaw Lem survived the NAZIs and the Commies. We're half way there.

Your analysis of the goings-on at Langley are probably spot-on. These neo-con turds have roots going back to Nixon's "Bay of Pigs Thing." The new stooge DCI is an Operation 40 vet, according to more than one person.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKgoss.htm



BTW: Have you seen Tarkovsky's "Stalker"? That, also, explores themes of freedom amidst totalitarianism in the name of national security in the presence of the Other.

Most importantly: A most hearty welcome to DU, leveymg! Readers are leaders!
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:24 PM
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3. Just look at these names.
Many of them had been summarily smeared before they were "suicided", so the public, had they been privy to the deaths, would not have found anything peculiar in the events. Some (and you know who I mean) would have been pleased with these men being dead. What they were trying to spread was not pretty, by anyone's standard.

What I am personally curious to know, is will this continue, and what are the real criteria for offing someone in this way? They certainly would rather have had Richard Clarke and Michael Moore taken care of, but they must not have fit the profile for such a thing. What about Greg Palast? It all seems so terrifying. Is the key to avoiding the wrath of the Bush Family to become as famous as possible as quickly as possible?

Does this mean that the press is complicit in outright murder by not following up on these stories? I am inclined to say yes. Also, don't forget that the CIA has been caught (and will probably be caught again) operating within the United States. That has to be where the key lies, because there's something (e.g. information on a CIA insider) that the above men either knew, or were close to knowing, that other journalists and artists have not approached. Any thoughts?
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:30 PM
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4. Yup and if you watch t.v. and read the trash news
you will never hear anything about what is happening in the real world.It is a known fact that the C.I.A. has been hidden in the media since WW2.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:47 PM
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7. The great Robert Parry was FIRED for his reports on IranContra.
The Bushies kept hounding Newsweek to fire him, complaining about his coverage. Seemed it was TOO thorough.

I worry that they'll go after Parry, too. I think Bush wants anyone who knows alot about IranContra and BCCI out of the picture. Those Reagan and Bush1 papers have to come out sometime, and they'd prefer that anyone waiting for those final pieces of the puzzle to add to their collection of data are long gone.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:03 PM
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27. Whew, I hope you are wrong. But
that makes me worry too. I guess I'm not in a good state of mind right now to hear anymore.

Parry getting fired from Newsweek at Poppy's request is a fact.

Here is one article that Parry wrote:

Robert Parry with Rod Nordland, "Guns for Drugs?
Senate Probers Trace an Old Contra Connection to George Bush's
Office", Newsweek, May 23, 1988,


Some more on Parry:


In early fall of 1976, after a Chilean government assassin had killed a Chilean dissident and an American woman with a car bomb in Washington, D.C., George H.W. Bush’s CIA leaked a false report clearing Chile’s military dictatorship and pointing the FBI in the wrong direction.
The bogus CIA assessment, spread through Newsweek magazine and other U.S. media outlets, was planted despite CIA’s now admitted awareness at the time that Chile was participating in Operation Condor, a cross-border campaign targeting political dissidents, and the CIA’s own suspicions that the Chilean junta was behind the terrorist bombing in Washington. ..........

http://www.consortiumnews.com/1999/100599b.html
.....That night, Sen. James Abourezk, a Letelier friend, found himself sitting near Bush at a state dinner at the Jordanian Embassy. Distraught about the murders, Abourezk asked the CIA director to commit the spy agency in the effort "to find the bastards who killed" Letelier. Bush vowed to help and added, obliquely, "we are not without assets in Chile.".........
One of the advocates for Pinochet's freedom has been George Bush, the former CIA director and later president. In his letter to the British government, Bush called the case against the former dictator "a travesty of justice" and urged that Pinochet be sent home to Chile "as soon as possible.".......
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:16 AM
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57. Kerry should say something, while he has the spotlight
Kerry knows all about Iran Contra and BCCI right? Why doesn't he say something? Especially now that Webb has committed suicide, surely Kerry could mention one word in public?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:01 PM
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10. Agree. So now Bush can declare any opponent an "Enemy of the State."
Thanks to USA PATRIOT Act, which gives him all sorts of powers, one of which makes extra-legal killings "legal."

Killing a few real journalists serves a purpose, as well. It prevents the rest of the independent-minded types from poking their inquiring minds where they shouldn't venture -- like in Bush Organized Crime Family activities.

Thus, the presstitutes are frightened of doing their jobs. They know naming the Bushes for what they are -- NAZIs -- means the end of their careers.

So the embedded CIA types keep the Mighty Whorelitzer pumpin' out the entertaining news, uninterrupted.

All is well: There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They've been moved to Iran. Saddam Hussein helped Al Quaeda plan 9-11. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

The coming days will be interesting. Will Masden, Palast and others band together to spread some fire and brimstone in the form of real reportage? Will the authorities start to see what kind of criminals the Bushes are? Wil the American people start to wake up?

Webb's death should show even the most ardent anti-conspiracy theorist that something stinks in the House of Bush. Oh how I hate willful ignorance. It enables evil.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:51 PM
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25. What will Madsen's fate be?
He's off the beaten track.I disagree with many of his conclusions, but he has brought some interesting facts to light. Guess he shouldn't fly in small plans.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:47 AM
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44. Greg Palast certainly has the goods!
Glad you mentioned him - it's a chance for me to both kick this thread, and pimp my own Palast appreciation thread!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2819763

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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:32 PM
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5. HOLY SHIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 07:34 PM by Carl Brennan
The dirty rat bastards. Gary Webb was the most level headed person who ever wrote about these fascist bastards. He was raked over the coals for his expose in the San Jose Mercury of the CIA drug dealing. Then he wrote a book called "Dark Alliance".


This is despicable. I guess the fascists are just going to pop one person after another until they get rid of anybody who knows anything damning, including people at DU. Webb knew the nitty-gritty of the CIA's involvement in drug dealing.

Note: 5-6 people who Casolaro interviewed also died suddenly. One was beaten to death and about three of total were classified as murders.

A lawyer named Paul Wilcher died mysteriously as well shortly after he sent a letter to then Att. General Janet Reno about his evidence that Poppy was involved in the October Surprise.




...On January 20th, 1981 while Ronald Reagan was being sworn in as President of the United States the Federal Reserve Board pressed a button and released instantaneously several billion dollars from a bank in London to Iran and that is when the hostages were released. (A statement made on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives by the Head of the House Committee on Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs Henry Gonzales to the 102nd Congress 2nd Session on 9/28/92 CR pp.9591)

<http://old.valleyadvocate.com/25th/archives/bushs_watergate.html>

But by October of 1980, one thing was clear: If the hostages were released prior to the election, Carter would be re-elected. If not, Ronald Reagan would win. All major polls -- including one by the primary Republican pollster, Richard Wirthlin -- showed a 10 percent swing on just that issue.

In early October, word spread through the world media that Carter had negotiated a deal for the hostages' release. It was widely believed that he had agreed to unfreeze some $4 billion in assets claimed by the deposed Shah, and to supply spare parts to the American-made arms inherited by the Ayatollah Khomeini's revolutionary regime. The hostages were due home by mid-October, in ample time to assure Carter's re-election.

Then, mysteriously, the deal was off. The hostages weren't coming home after all. What happened?







In an affidavit Attorney Paul D. Wilcher sent to newly appointed Attorney General Janet Reno a short time after Gonzales statement reads:

... The October Surprise treason refers to the top secret trip then-Vice Presidential candidate and former CIA Director George Bush (along with a planeful of some 25 to 30 other top CIA covert operatives-including a handful of prominent Republican and Democratic senators and Congressmen) took to Paris on the weekend of October 18th and 19th', 1980. While in Paris, Bush secretly met with representatives of the Ayatollah Khomeini, paid them bribes in the amount of $40 million dollars, and promised to deliver to the man an additional $5 billion in arms (the shipments of these arms began flowing even before the election), in exchange for the Iranians agreement NOT to release the 52 American hostages they held in Tehran until after the November 4th, 1980, US Presidential elections-in order to guarantee the humiliation and defeat of President Jimmy Carter in the election- and in order to cement the CIA;'s lock on the White House for the next 12 years under George Bush. The Reagan and Bush Administrations and most recently the Congress-- in separate House and Senate October Surprise investigations in 1992- have tried to tell us that the October Surprise NEVER happened- that Bush and his CIA cronies NEVER made this secret trip to Paris on October 18th and 19th, and that NO secret deal with the Iranians was ever struck. But that simply in NOT true- as the 16 covert operatives referred to below will demonstrate in their forthcoming testimony. They will even produce a video tape to prove both the "October Surprise" treason and George Bush's participation in it -beyond all shadow of any doubt.

The body of Mr. Wilcher, attorney at law, age 46 was found later sitting on the toilet in his apartment, cause of death 'unknown'. (Octopus, pp.88-89).


Then a co-author of the book about Casolaro and October Surprise called "Octopus" (Jim Keith) that cited Wilcher's death died mysteriously in the hospital after breaking his leg.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:58 PM
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9. Meanwhile, the big tough men guarding america
like that rambobo guy, where are they? criminals basically wrecking their country, and where are they?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:51 PM
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26. They are getting their makeup to done between
curtain calls.

But I get your drift and its a good question asked about how out of touch with reality many Americans are.

I guess I better laugh, before I get sick again over what happened to Gary Webb.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:52 PM
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32. Yup,...I wonder where the REAL courage and patriotism is, too!
I am weary of all the empty rhetoric in place of principles ("freedom", "democracy", "spirit", blahblahblahblahblah). I see no spine or courage or heroism in so many bent upon making a comfortable life for THEMSELVES while giving away, selling the very hopes and dreams and aspirations that create strength in human existence.

WTF!!! Talk about wimpy, worthless contributors to human progression. But,...what do they care,...since it's always been about themselves, their lives,....a ME, ME, ME attitude and culture.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:02 PM
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11. Ohhhh, the big, bad, all-powerful BFEE!
Puh-LEEZE!

:tinfoilhat:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:05 PM
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:06 PM
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15. Yeah right...whatever...
:eyes:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:12 PM
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19. Thanks for adding! Here's something to consider:
Celerino Castillo was a top DEA man in Central American during Iran-Contra. He reported the CIA's agents were bringing down guns and loading up dope for the return flights home. Go ahead and roll your eyes all you want, Padraig18. You're only fooling yourself.

CONTRA-INTELLIGENCE
ON OLIVER L. NORTH


By Celerino "Cele" Castillo, 3rd

EXCERPT...

At the height of the Contra war, I was stationed in Central America for 5 years as the lead DEA agent in El Salvador. It was there that I came face to face with the contradictions of my assignments. I started to record intelligence on how known drug traffickers, with multiple DEA files, were utilizing hangars 4 and 5 at Illopango airbase in El Salvador, to transport monies and drugs. Those hangars were owned and operated by the CIA and NSC. The Contra supply operations utilized the most readily available capabilities: drug-smugglers, who had the planes and pilots to conduct clandestine flights from South and Central America to all parts of the United States. "Guns down, drugs back," was the formula.

During that period, I was warned several times by the DEA and the State Department to shut down my Contra investigations but not to close the files. The reason was that if I did not close the investigation, then the committees would not be able to have excess to the files under the Freedom of Information Act. However, I continued to file my reports on the Contras to DEA HQS. These reports on members of the Contra operators went on for several years.

During the 1980s, Felix Rodriguez was in charge of the Contras' supply network in El Salvador for Oliver North. In addition, Rodriguez hired a Cuban terrorist by the name of Luis Posada Carriles to help him run the operation. On October 1976, after an explosion sent a Cuban jetliner plummeting into the sea off Barbados, it was revealed that the mastermind behind the bombing was no other then Luis Posada. In late 2000, Posada was arrested in a plot to assassinate Cuban president Fidel Castro.

The July 9, 1984 entry in North's diary obligingly published by Senator John Kerry, states, in Ollie's own hand, "Wanted aircraft to go to Bolivia to pick up paste, want aircraft to pick up 1,500 kilos."

The July 12, 1985 entry reads, "$14 millions to finance Supermarket came from drugs."

CONTINUED...

http://www.drugwar.com/castillonorthmay1104.shtm
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #11
23. Read my post #5 and say that.
:eyes:
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
38. do some homework, pal, and you'll change your tune
I would have rolled my eyes, same as you, about two years ago.

Then I started doing some actual research.

Try it, you'll see.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. It's amazing what a little research into these things can do
Kudos to you. That's how many of us started and it's what made DU develop into the informative site it is today. I learned a lot here too. It takes about one year if you have an inquisitive mind. Up to 4 if you're stubborn Up 60 if you imitate an ostrich while trying to impede discussion.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. yes, and I have to say Octafish is a most impressive DUer
He's one of those I was hoping didn't change his handle. :)

It's just amazing how BAD the mainstream media is once you start doing your own job of it.

You realize they're part of the whole game.

It's quite a catharsis, actually. I'm sure we all remember those "oh my god" moments when you feel your whole perception of the world undergo a seismic shift.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #42
45. I remember mine
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 01:00 AM by Tinoire
It was pretty painful and it happened at DU. I had the grace not to ridicule those who were waaay ahead of me and research everything they said. The picture was so depressing. It took about a year to strip the "innocence".

I'm so grateful Gore invented "the Internets" ;) so that we can read the research of people like Octafish

:toast: to Octafish!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #45
79. Hey, you're great, too....and Octafish, well, he is my anchor here at DU.
Hopefully more will come to understand that all the secrets of the BFEE and their links to the current evils of the world are rooted in BCCI.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #79
90. For once, I dunno what to say.
Regarding me, I'm just spreading the word that Corporate McPravda ignores. The events since Dallas and how they've impacted my nation and our world are of particular interest.

What I can say is that the reason for doing all this are the good DUers, visible on this thread and throughout DU, who give a damn about the future of our country. Without people like Nordic, Tinoire, blm and the rest, it really wouldn't be much of a place worth giving a damn about anyway. Besides, it would get pretty durn lonely.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #90
93. Robert Parry: 'America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb'
Here's what a REAL journalist has to say about this tragedy:

America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb

By Robert Parry
December 13, 2004

In 1996, journalist Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that forced a long-overdue investigation of a very dark chapter of recent U.S. foreign policy – the Reagan-Bush administration’s protection of cocaine traffickers who operated under the cover of the Nicaraguan contra war in the 1980s.

For his brave reporting at the San Jose Mercury News, Webb paid a high price. He was attacked by journalistic colleagues at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the American Journalism Review and even the Nation magazine. Under this media pressure, his editor Jerry Ceppos sold out the story and demoted Webb, causing him to quit the Mercury News. Even Webb’s marriage broke up.

On Friday, Dec. 10, Gary Webb, 49, died of an apparent suicide, a gunshot wound to the head.

Whatever the details of Webb’s death, American history owes him a huge debt. Though denigrated by much of the national news media, Webb’s contra-cocaine series prompted internal investigations by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department, probes that confirmed that scores of contra units and contra-connected individuals were implicated in the drug trade. The probes also showed that the Reagan-Bush administration frustrated investigations into those crimes for geopolitical reasons.

Failed Media

Unintentionally, Webb also exposed the cowardice and unprofessional behavior that had become the new trademarks of the major U.S. news media by the mid-1990s. The big news outlets were always hot on the trail of some titillating scandal – the O.J. Simpson case or the Monica Lewinsky scandal – but the major media could no longer grapple with serious crimes of state.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/121304.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #93
99. This post deserves its own thread, Octafish.
.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #99
106. Right with ya, blm.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #99
134. I second that as well blm Thanks Octafish!(and a few other DUer's)
:tinfoilhat:, Truth, THINGS THAT START WITH T
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:38 AM
Response to Reply #11
50. what are you saying? It's not one of the most powerfull families
in the world today?

Puh-LEEZE!
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:37 AM
Response to Reply #11
53. Padraig did you read # 5? If not, why not????
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 06:38 AM by Carl Brennan
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
95. Paddy, I respect you far too much to be as dismissive in return--
But I will say that I think you're dead wrong in your skepticism here. I say this as a former journalist who knows what kinds of threats one gets when the cages get rattled a bit too much. I've done a great deal of digging on the above-referenced "suicides" going back a few years ago, and I absolutely believe these journalists were silenced permanently.

I don't believe that the bushies have a dead body hidden in every closet, but the deaths of those who got a little too close with the investigative reporting they were doing are extremely suspicious. After Casalaro was killed (look up the details of his "suicide" and tell me if you really think he wasn't murdered), I told a few people at the time that Webb would eventually be taken out, too. I was sad but unsurprised to learn of his death this weekend.
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:04 PM
Response to Original message
12. Okay, what is BFEE? n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Bush Family Evil Empire (Enterprise) n/t
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Thanks LOL
I take it you aren't a big believer in this theory?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Ummm.... no.
To be precise.

:)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. So how did Bush manage to get 22-percent more votes in 2004...
...than he did in 2000?

He must've run on his record, huh?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
:wtf:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #21
28. The point is you're very quick to haul out the Tin Hat in defense of Bush.
Here are a few recent posts where Padraig18 pretty much says those who investigate the BFEE commit suicide all the time:

Who Killed Margie Schoedinger?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2802130#2810744


Was Gary Webb Murdered?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2818916

What an interesting thing it is to believe in coincidences. That’s exactly what the Warren Commission found. And the 9-11 Commission. And just about every other investigation of governmental corruption in between, like Smirk's sudden surge of support.
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Not defending Padraig or BFEE
I happen to believe that there are a lot of bodies that turn up related to *.

Schoedinger may be one, but after reading her lawsuit against * I changed my mind on her. I believe she was just someone that was mentally ill and killed herself and that * had nothing to do with it except in her mind.

But I'm open to have my mind changed on that as I do believe that the BFEE (I'd never caught that one until it was explained by you and Padraig tonight) or * Crime Family or whatever have their roots going wayyyyyyy back to Prescott * and his Nazi financing scheme.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:14 AM
Response to Reply #28
51. And your *proof* to the contrary would be....?
I'll wait, but I won't hold my breath, even though blue DOES happen to be my favorite color...

:eyes:
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #51
60. Oh! Senators don't kill people!
Now who's being naive?
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #60
63. It's not naive to demand proof.
It's also a personal attack to suggest that someone is.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #63
64. it's a quote from the Godfather, remember?
When people say they think Scott Peterson or OJ Simpson or John Gotti is guilty of murder, they aren't usually accused of conspiracy mongering, but when you assume that a wealthy politician or President is of the same moral standing, all of a sudden it's a "conspiracy theory". Why is that?

Do we have proof that the Bush's ordered him murdered? Of course not. Did they have the motive, the opportunity, etc? Of course. Webb reported on drug dealers and terrorists - why would it surprise anyone that many violent criminals would want him killed?


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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. It's a small matter of evidence.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 08:15 AM by Cuban_Liberal
Maybe it's just the former cop in me, but I tend to prefer evidence and proof over rank specualtion without evidence or proof; guess I'm sorta goofy that way...

:eyes:
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #65
68. who is on trial here?
Are we on DU the jurors, judges, and executioners of criminals? No.
:eyes:

As for evidence and proof - have you read anything by Webb or Casolaro? What did you think?

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #68
69. I don't need to read what they wrote, to determine how they died.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. you know how he died?
We don't know anything excpet that the press is printing a story, saying Webb is dead and it was a suicide. That's all we know - what the press is saying, not anything about Webb.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #73
74. What I'm saying is this:
Until I know that he did NOT shoot himself, I have no basis whatsoever to assume that he was murdered. It's not a hard concept to understand, frankly.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #74
76. I agree, it's not a difficult concept
You are telling us that you need proof that he did not shoot himself, yet we have no proof that he DID kill himself. So, why choose one over the other?

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #74
124. Till I see the actual gunshot wounds, the gun , the evidence of powder....
burns on his body in the correct pattern etc I will not believe he is dead or he killed himself.

It all sounds pretty stupid to me, but I guess to each his own.

I guess it is true about the needing to paint ones restroom brown to remind someone of their need to take a shit :hurts:
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #124
128. LOL.
Like Condi saying they didn't have the terrorists seat numbers on the
flights, so how could they take action.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #51
77. You demand proof at 5:14 a.m. my time? LMFAO.
Keep holding your breath. Maybe to pass the time you can pass along some "proof" he wasn't murdered. On balance, there are many more reporters who bring up PROOF of the BFEE's nefarious activities who suicide than there are suicides of reporters who EXONERATE the BFEE. Don't you think?
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #77
85. I don't have to prove he wasn't murdered.
You put forth the proposition that he WAS murdered, and under the rules of debate, that puts the burden of proof on you, my friend.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #85
87. Wrong. I said he was found shot in the head, Compay.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:00 AM by Octafish
Despite the suggestions of several of the posters here, including you: Nowhere on this third did I state I knew Gary Webb was a murder victim.

I started the post to demonstrate the interesting pattern of "suicide" among journalists who had chronicled corruption leading to the Bushes.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger.

EDIT: Clarified first sentence.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #87
101. Who is 'Compay'?
???
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #101
105. Usted.
Compadre. Compay. Amigo. Amiga.



¿Verdad?

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #105
110. There is no such word as 'Compay', in Spanish.
Please, let's just keep this on an adult level, shall we? Thanks.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #110
113. You're the one who made it informal, my "friend."
In a way, you are right. "Compay" is short for "Compadre."



Here's Francisco Repilado, also known as Compay Segundo, from Buena Vista Social Club.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Bush Family Evil Empire.
... A/K/A...

The Bush Organized Crime Family
Bush, Inc.
The Bush Crime Syndicate.
The Secret Team.
The Shadow Government.
The Octopus.

Whatever name it uses, the BFEE operates to:

• Command the world's mightiest military for personal gain.
• Control the physical and intellectual property of the United States.
• Manipulate the American public through fear and intimidation.
• Penure the nation's middle class to the benefit of the wealthiest individuals and powerful corporations.
• Rob the mineral resources of the world's nations.
• Enslave the world's free peoples.
• Kill those who oppose them.
• Destroy the Constitution of the United States of America.

Anyone doubt me? Post why and prepare to be informed.

Those with me? Feel free to add and discuss.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
33. Grandpa Bush funded Hitler's military industrial machine.
The family has since,...and still profits off "death" and all wars,...every chance they get. They are heavily invested in "PRO-DEATH" commodities.

The BFEE basically IS the military industrial complex that we have been warned about. They control the world via PRIVATIZING an arms race.

Of course, they ventured into the very provocative and lucrative drug-dealing market. But, now, push the pharmaceutical industry and energy industry in addition to arms-dealing.

They invest in money,...not humanity.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Then Prescott helped Dulles import Gehlen's ORG and all them NAZIs.
To fight the commies, Dulles and the CIA grabbed Gehlen and every NAZI supposedly spying on the Reds they could find. Shoot their best agents also worked for the Reds to spy on us, in addition to letting in thousands of NAZI war criminals into the US and thousands more escape prosecution by fleeing to South America. By the time he became a Senator, Prescott Bush already had done a whole lot of most nasty business with Dulles and his brother.

CIA's Worst-Kept Secret

By Martin A. Lee
May 16, 2001

EXCERPT...

Pried loose by Congress, which passed the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act three years ago, a long-hidden trove of once-classified CIA documents confirms one of the worst-kept secrets of the Cold War – the CIA's use of an extensive Nazi spy network to wage a clandestine campaign against the Soviet Union.

The CIA reports show that U.S. officials knew they were subsidizing numerous Third Reich veterans who had committed horrible crimes against humanity, but these atrocities were overlooked as the anti-Communist crusade acquired its own momentum. For Nazis who would otherwise have been charged with war crimes, signing on with American intelligence enabled them to avoid a prison term.

"The real winners of the Cold War were Nazi war criminals, many of whom were able to escape justice because the East and West became so rapidly focused after the war on challenging each other," says Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations and America's chief Nazi hunter.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051601a.html
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
22. Don't know if it's a connection but John Mack
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 08:29 PM by HeeBGBz
John Mack Harvard professor was killed by a "drunk driver" as he was crossing a street while visiting in London.

snip

"Dr Mack was one of several speakers discussing British officer T.E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia") at the T. E. Lawrence Society Symposium, in Oxford on Sunday. Dr Mack's 1977 biography of T.E. Lawrence, A Prince of Our Disorder, received the Pulitzer Prize in biography (see complete bio below). Dr Mack's presentation at an afternoon panel was so warmly received that he was asked to stay and present an additional talk, which again met with positive response.

On Monday, he spent time in London and went to dinner with friends.

On his return to the home at which he was staying in North London, while traveling on foot, he was struck at approx. 23:25 by a silver Peugeot 306 headed west on Totteridge Lane. Dr Mack was crossing the street near the junction with Longland Drive. Dr Mack was rendered unconscious on impact and died a short while later at hospital. The driver of the Peugeot was arrested at the scene on suspicion of driving with excess alcohol. A firefighter who happened to reside nearby (and heard the sound of the crash) initially attended to Dr Mack."

In the last letter written to his family a week before he died.

snip

"We went to about twenty homes in a very depressed urban
neighborhood. There is so much to say about that. I'll hold it
now to this: many people were "undecided," not because they've
weighed Bush/Kerry and haven't made up their minds, but because
they are so oppressed that they haven't had the time or energy
to bring to even thinking about an election in this embittered
nation (some, a few men included, had little ones on their hips,
peaking around them or even greeting us). And these people do
care about their children's future, and health care, education,
jobs and war matter to them. But they need to be persuaded that
one national leader is preferable to another, and that's not
hard to do with the information that we all have at our
fingertips."

snip

"ACT is so meticulously organized (it isworking in 19 swing states and is networking with many other grassroots organizations with a similar purpose), especially in its targeting of voters and follow-up (among other things), that they will make sure this experience is repeated until these people get into the voting booths, And they will vote for Kerry for just about all the reasons you and I would. This is, to a large degree, an untapped base, because, it would seem, human door-to-door contact is what it will take, and the campaigns in the past haven't had the people power to do that. We do now, and the growing ranks of volunteers (many, like me, have never done this before, which, by the way, was a powerful talking point)will be able to take advantage of this potential."

I don't know what else he was working on but he was working to get people out to vote for Kerry.

PASSING OF DR JOHN MACK: ANNOUNCEMENT TO FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES





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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. An awareness must be regained to create a sustainable, peaceful world.

“This experience is a big experience,
it is not a small experience. It is not soft, it is not gentle in
very many moments. It makes you feel. It makes you move – sometimes violently – through things you don't want to move through in your psyche and your ego and any of the other words
you choose to call yourself.”
– An experiencer from Passport to the Cosmos

What if the alien encounter phenomenon were subtle in the sense that it may manifest in the physical world but derives from a source which by its very nature could not provide the kind of hard evidence that would satisfy skeptics for whom reality is limited to the material? What if we were to acknowledge that the phenomenon is beyond our present framework of knowledge?
Might not such an attitude of humility become, paradoxically, a way to enlarge upon what could then be learned? Is it possible that adopting an open attitude toward the testimony of witnesses could enable us to learn of unseen realities now obscured by our too limited epistemology, allowing us to rediscover the sacred and the divinity in nature and in ourselves?
I think of these experiences as a crossing over between the material world and what in Eastern philosophy is called the subtle realm. Like a reified “mystic's journey,” experiencers describe being brought into another dimension of reality from which a new perspective on life on Earth is possible. Sensitivity to our dysfunctional ecological and social conditions emerges as many come to feel that every living system is connected to what many call “Source,” or “Home.” An awareness of this relationship must be regained, they say, if we are to create a sustainable, peaceful world.
Having listened to the similar testimony of more than 200 experiencers from the West and from indigenous cultures, I have come to feel that the phenomenon is of great importance to our evolution, regardless of its ontological status.

- JOHN E. MACK, M.D.
http://www.centerchange.org/passport /


Dr. John Mack was killed in London when hit by a car after stepping off
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=111&topic_id=35559
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:43 PM
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31. Did not know that Dr. Mack was pro-Kerry.
Dr. Mack, I knew, was very brave, sticking to his principles regarding his work with people who've experienced what they believe are encounters with alien beings. Several of his colleagues at Harvard Medical School tried to get him canned. And Mack prevailed.

Regarding a conspiracy to silence him in London: I do not know, but would consider it unlikely because of his political work. But when it comes to the workings of the BFEE, I wouldn't put it past them. One of the favored techniques is the "accident."

An excerpt from "A Study of Assassination," what's been termed the "CIA Assassination Manual"...

CLASSIFICATIONS

The techniques employed will vary according to whether the subject is unaware of his danger, aware but unguarded, or guarded. They will also be affected by whether or not the assassin is to be killed with the subject hereafter, assassinations in which the subject is unaware will be termed "simple"; those where the subject is aware but unguarded will be termed "chase"; those where the victim is guarded will be termed "guarded."

If the assassin is to die with the subject, the act will be called "lost." If the assassin is to escape, the adjective will be "safe." It should be noted that no compromises should exist here. The assassin must not fall alive into enemy hands.

A further type division is caused by the need to conceal the fact that the subject was actually the victim of assassination, rather than an accident or natural causes. If such concealment is desirable the operation will be called "secret" ;; if concealment is immaterial, the act will be called "open"; while if the assassination requires publicity to be effective it will be termed "terroristic."

Following these definitions, the assassination of Julius Caesar was safe, simple, and terroristic, while that of Huey Long was lost, guarded and open. Obviously, successful secret assassinations are not recorded as assassination at all. o f Thailand and Augustus Caesar may have been the victims of safe, guarded and secret assassination. Chase assassinations usually involve clandestine agents or members of criminal organizations.


CONTINUED...

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:17 PM
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104. What has happened to the silver Peugot driver?
Witnesses?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:20 PM
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35. Well, we can kiss the truth on this one goodbye
Law enforcement here in Sacramento county is a fuckin' joke. If Mr. Webb was holding a gun with GHWB's prints on it in his off hand and had Barbara Bush's pearls jammed down his throat they'd rule it a suicide in under an hour and go back to whatever the hell they do while they aren't doing thier jobs. Assuming they bothered to come to the call. We get a lot of "We're too busy to handle that" around here.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:59 PM
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36. Figured that.
Remarkable how fast the verdict is "suicide" when the victim is connected to that nice Bush family. Doesn't have to be a journalist who knows too much. It can be a former business associate.

Remember Mr. Cliff Baxter who'd just sold his stock options when the price was peaking and had ordered his new 75-foot yacht to go around the world with his wife and kids suddenly decided to use ratshot on his head the middle of one night after the wheels came off ENRON, with all that offshore banking to disappear the loot?

Didn't know the po-lice was a bit slow in Sacramento. Of course, after Prop 19 or whateverthefuckitwas that de-funded government services by letting the propertied class go, I should have.

I do know exactly what you mean about "We're too busy to handle that" public serice. I'm in Detroit. When the cops here find the time to do anything near a criminal investigation it's because they're involved as perpetrators.

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:03 AM
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39. I hope you posted this compendium in Demopedia...
and that DU has backup systems because the BFEE will surely target this site for their memory hole.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:22 AM
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47. Thanks, linazelle!
Much obliged and I really like Demopedia. It's a record that will help hold these so-and-sos accountable. May their trials be televised live and their incarceration viewable online 24/7.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:26 AM
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41. Amazing. What a stupid "note"

... an apparent suicide. Moving-company workers called authorities after discovering a note posted on his front door that read, "Please do not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance."

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/24hour/nation/story/1919220p-9874414c.html

So a guy shoots himself in the head several times but left a note on the FRONT DOOR" asking them to call an ambulance.

Oh yeah... Who the hell writes these scripts?

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:43 AM
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43. LOL. Yeah, it's like a joke, isn't it?
I can only see that as a joke by whoever put it there.

They probably laughed their asses off as they drove away
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:05 AM
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46. I'm really speechless over that note
They probably did laugh their heads off as they drove away. What sick people.

Do you have any idea what Gary Webb working on before getting suicided?
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:35 AM
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49. I sure don't. I saw your other post about "The Killing Game"
which is pretty darned interesting.

I'm sure whatever he was working on is long gone.

Although you have to wonder .... these days, it's so easy to back things up by e-mailing them hither and yon. I do it all the time with my own work. Just a thought ..... I wonder what those who knew him are thinking right about now?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:51 AM
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62. They now assume they can get by with murder
This kind of in your face post it note and "suicide" follows right along with their MO.
Disgusting and no one knows how to stop them
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:19 AM
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66. Where does it say he shot himself 'several times'?
The article CLEARLY says 'a (one) gunshot wound to the head'.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:59 AM
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81. about the note...
Having been suicidal myself at one point in my life, I totally understand the note. You still have concern for how other people will feel and react to it, and especially if he knew it would be messy, he might have wanted to protect them. I used to think about doing something similar, myself. (long ago, thankfully).

This is not to say, though, that he wasn't suicided. In one form or another, I believe he was. Directly? Perhaps. Indirectly, through the BFEE completely ruining the poor man's life? Likely. These people, I'm sure, know when someone has a propensity towards depression. Who knows, maybe they found out he was on medication and said, BINGO! let's make his life living hell. Let's tell his wife he's been cheating on her (don't know why they divorced, it's just an example), let's tell his editors he can't be trusted, let's undermine all of his activities... and let nature take its course.

But I'm definitely not ruling out that he was directly suicided. Happens sooooo often when people become entangled in the Octopus' tentacles.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:48 AM
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48. And now in Blair's UK world too...
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:43 AM
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54. Gary Webb for real? No suicide, it's murder
I remember when his story first came out - it was nothing all that new, the rumors had been spread around for a while, but he put everything together and gave undeniable proof. He caused so many problems they had to send the CIA director to Compton to "quell the rumors".

They never ONCE found anything wrong with his story, but they fired him anyway, and had the CIA's number one Media Whore - Walter Pincus - smear him in the Washington Post.

Suicide? I don't believe it for one minute. They have wanted him dead for 10 years now. Damn damn damn ... do these bastards ALWAYS win??? I feel like crying.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:45 AM
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55. Gary Webb & Danny Casolaro
"suicide" my ass - RIP.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:05 AM
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119. Ruppert's Column on Webb
Ruppert said Webb didn't take the threat as seriously as others...

GARY WEBB - PULITZER PRIZE WINNER, AUTHOR OF DARK ALLIANCE CIA-DRUG SERIES DEAD OF REPORTED SUICIDE

Press Accounts Fail to Mention His Vindication by CIA Inspector General Reports and Congressional Investigations


by Michael C. Ruppert

© Copyright 2004, From The Wilderness Publications, www.fromthewilderness.com. All Rights Reserved. May be reprinted, distributed or posted on an Internet web site for non-profit purposes only.

December 13, 2004 1400 PDT (FTW) - Gary Webb, 49, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter from the San Jose Mercury News made America hold its breath in 1996 when he showed us proof of direct CIA involvement in drug trafficking. For a few months many of us had hope.

He reportedly died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head two days ago. His body was discovered at 8:20 AM Saturday as movers reportedly found a note on the door of his residence asking them not to enter but to call for paramedics.

Webb's August 1996 series Dark Alliance for the San Jose Mercury News pulled deep covers away from US covert operations and American denial about connections between the CIA and drugs. Gary left a bigger historical footprint than anyone who has ever touched the subject including among others, Peter Dale Scott, Alfred McCoy, Jonathan Kwitny and me.

His footprint was made possible in large part for two reasons. First, his reporting was meticulous and produced hard records that could not be effectively denied. Second, prominent African-American leaders like Jesse Jackson and representatives Maxine Waters and Juanita Millender-McDonald of Los Angeles and Compton respectively took up the torch lit by Gary and ran with it just before the 1996 presidential election which saw Bill Clinton win his second term just eight weeks after the stories broke. I was there at that time and it is not an understatement to say that much of this country was "up in arms".

Waters at one point vowed to make the CIA-drug connections, fully documented by Webb, her "life's work" if necessary.

In death the major press is beating him almost as ruthlessly as they did in real life. No part of the major press has acknowledged that Webb's work was subsequently vindicated by congressional investigations and two CIA Inspector General's reports released in 1997 and 1998. FTW did report on Webb's vindication and his legacy has - at least at the level of authentic journalism - not been lost.

Please see:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/RendGW.html, and
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/volii.html

For more FTW coverage of Gary Webb's life please use the search engine at www.fromthewilderness.com.

The LA Times obituary, in all of its meanness and inaccuracy is here.

Of the six obituaries I have seen on him, the one from the L.A. Times was the most brutally Soviet in its attempt to crush out his memory as thoroughly as his work. Of course the Times would have to do that. It was in Los Angeles where Webb dug up and documented the direct connection between the CIA and cocaine smuggling/trafficking as crack cocaine ravaged this city in the 1980s and the Contra war decimated Central America.

The Times already had known of this for decades. Starting in 1979 I dealt extensively with the Times trying to report the same connections with regard to heroin smuggling by the CIA. Cocaine did not become a national epidemic until around 1980. By 1996 I had 17 bitter years of funneling hard evidence to the Times and watching as staff writer David Rosenzweig -- among others including Ron Soble and David Johnston (now of the New York Times) - kept taking the information, promising to do something, and then spiking the stories in exchange for promotions.

When Gary autographed his 1998 best-seller Dark Alliance to me he wrote: "To Mike. You were there before I was."

Richard Heinberg, author of The Party's Over and Powerdown observed after reading the Times' obituary, "The LA Times obit is disgusting. 'What's our attitude toward investigative journalism? Well, of course we try to discourage it wherever we can, but sometimes it happens anyway. Then we get especially nasty--we have to, naturally, to protect our reputation.'"

I always knew it was a fight to the death. I don't think he ever fully understood that. Retired DEA agent Cele Castillo who had reported on direct CIA drug involvement from Honduras and El Salvador in the 1980s and I both told him in 1996 what he was up against and what it might cost him.

GRATITUDE

There would be no FTW, or Crossing the Rubicon without Gary Webb. Catherine Austin Fitts and I would never have met had it not been for Gary Webb. Dick Gregory would not have made me his white son on the radio had it not been for Gary Webb. I would never have confronted John Deutch at Locke High had it not been for Gary Webb.

I myself might have committed suicide in 1996 - broke, divorced and having given up all hope of making people listen -- had it not been for Gary Webb. For some years now it has been the farthest thing from my mind.

I rediscovered my purpose and maybe Gary lost his. This is a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions.

KNOWN DETAILS

I called the Coroner shortly after the first flash came in here from Bay Area journalist and producer Kellia Ramares. His time of death was listed at 8:20 AM. Since it was Saturday, the homicide detectives would have been off and had to be paged. I estimate two hours (minimum) for them to get to the crime scene (unless a uniformed supervisor handled it). Add three hours minimum for crime scene, photos etc; that means he went to the Coroner's most likely around 1 PM. It could have been much later depending on response times on a Saturday before Christmas.

When I called the Sacramento Coroner's Office at 8:20 PM on Saturday I spoke with an unidentified female who stated that he had just been there since late that afternoon. I identified myself as a friend, ex-cop and journalist and she confirmed a single shot to the head. I wasn't sure it was our Gary Webb so I got his date of birth, hair and eye color. They matched. Gary was a good looking man with a moustache and I asked if that fit. She hesitated for quite a while before answering, "I can't tell."

This led me to suspect that the weapon used was a shotgun.

I then confirmed his death with the San Jose Mercury News and the L.A. Times. We will see if later facts don't mesh with what has been reported thus far.

I called the Times again at about 9:15 because I wanted to make sure someone said some good things about Gary. I dropped some names and got to the writer or the editor on the story who wouldn't ID himself. He said he'd have someone call me back to get my statement. No one ever called back and then the Times published their maliciously spiteful obituary just after midnight Sunday. It was clear to me that they wanted/needed to put a spin on his death.

Gary Webb deserved better than this and those of us who knew him and benefited from his work will see that he gets it.

I am going to the funeral and I will be asking questions in Sacramento. Given the disproportionate number of "suicides" of authors and journalists who have covered such stories, and the mainstream's horrendously dishonest coverage of such events, it is right to see if there are grounds to be cautiously suspicious of these accounts. But it is also right to avoid hysteria and unsupported conclusions until there are solid reasons to suspect foul play.

Gary would have wanted us all to do this by the numbers, patiently and thoroughly. That was his style. That was why he was so good.

When funeral arrangements are announced FTW will publish them and we encourage all of our subscribers to send flowers, write letters and show their thanks to this man who changed all of our lives forever.

It wouldn't hurt if you wanted to let the L.A. Times know what you think of their obituary.

Sleep well, Gary. Wherever men and women of honor gather together from now on, your name will be spoken with reverence, respect and gratitude.

Mike Ruppert
www.fromthewilderness.com

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:53 AM
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56. Question - why the big time delay?
Some on the list were quite suspicious - no question (esp Kangas...)

But per Webb - his work was eight years ago - he was discredited by the rwing smear machine... at the time...

Why would he be "suicided" now and not earlier, if this were the case?
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:18 AM
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58. Webb had some protection, and now it's gone
What you are seeing in the Bush's consolidating their power, tying up some loose ends, shredding the papers, etc. They can get away with it now, they run the whole show, in the US and around the world now.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:32 AM
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84. Timing is everything.
Plausible deniability is a lot more plausible the farther removed in time or space between actors and events.

Regarding assassination techniques: Getting the person "alone" is essential. No witnesses. No problem. Until his divorce, Webb lived with a wife and kids.

This is probably old hat to you. Newer readers might want to check out:


A STUDY OF ASSASSINATION


DEFINITION


Assassination is a term thought to be derived from "Hashish", a drug similar to marijuana, said to have been used by Hasan-Dan-Sabah to induce motivation in his followers, who were assigned to carry out political and other murders, usually at the cost of their lives.

It is here used to describe the planned killing of a person who is not under the legal jurisdiction of the killer, who is not physically in the hands of the killer, who has been selected by a resistance organization for death, and who has been sele cted by a resistance organization for death, and whose death provides positive advantages to that organization.


EMPLOYMENT

Assassination is an extreme measure not normally used in clandestine operations. It should be assumed that it will never be ordered or authorized by any U.S. Headquarters, though the latter may in rare instances agree to its execution by membe rs of an associated foreign service. This reticence is partly due to the necessity for committing communications to paper. No assassination instructions should ever be written or recorded. Consequently, the decision to employ this technique must nearly always be reached in the field, at the area where the act will take place. Decision and instructions should be confined to an absolute minimum of persons. Ideally, only one person will be involved. No report may be made, but usually the act will be pr operly covered by normal news services, whose output is available to all concerned.


JUSTIFICATION

Murder is not morally justifiable. Self-defense may be argued if the victim has knowledge which may destroy the resistance organization if divulged. Assassination of persons responsible for atrocities or reprisals may be regarded as just puni shment. Killing a political leader whose burgeoning career is a clear and present danger to the cause of freedom may be held necessary.

But assassination can seldom be employed with a clear conscience. Persons who are morally squeamish should not attempt it.

CONTINUED...

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:24 AM
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59. The problem with conspiracy theories
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 07:27 AM by Cuban_Liberal
What makes it so difficult to have a rational discussion with people who believe conspiracy-type theories is as simple as it is frustrating: in the main, conspiracy theorists not only lack physical or documenary evidence normally used to demonstrate a given hypothesis but, in a bizarre twist of 'logic' (sic), they consider the very absence of such evidence as proof of the conspiracy itself! Conversely, any evidence which in fact supports a conclusion contrary to their theory is dismissed as 'manufactured' or 'planted', if it is even acknowledged at all.

How can you have a rational discssion with someone holding that sort of mindset?

:shrug:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:30 AM
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61. You can't
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:22 AM
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67. where has the absence of evidence been presented as proof?
can you substantiate your claim?

Also, actually "proving" a conspiracy is a matter of the court.

Conspiracy theories are about suspicions of wrongdoing based on mostly circumstantial evidence - usually a lot of circumstantial evidence. It's about pointing out that there's a lot of smoke, in hopes it will be checked out to see if there's fire.
In the past more then a few conspiracies, both large and small, have been revealed thanks to theories regarding those conspiracies.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:24 AM
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70. rman, nice definition
"suspicions of wrongdoing based on circumstantial evidence"
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:24 AM
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71. It's done here at DU all the time.
It was a general statement. Where has any proof whatsoever been presented that this was NOT a suicide? Any at all will do...

:eyes:
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:31 AM
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72. where is any proof it WAS a suicide?
Do you regard Pravda reports from the 1965 USSR to be "proof" of any anything?

This is what we know - the press is reporting that Gary Webb is dead. Since they ALWAYS report deaths of journalists as "suicides" the fact they print that gives us no additional information.

Gary Webb is dead, everything else is speculation at this point.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:37 AM
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75. That's why you have an investigation.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 08:38 AM by Cuban_Liberal
Crime scene, ballistics, autopsy, etc. . The fact that it's being reported as a suicide does not make the assumption that is likely IS a suicide unreasonable. The contrary position cannot make the same claim.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:27 AM
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78. there are two fallacies operating here
The first one is simple - crime scene investigations, the autopsy, the ballistics tests - none of these data from these will be released to the public. That means it's not peer reviewed, that means it's not science. So, to assume they are correct is just an argument from authority. Perhaps one of faith in authority figures.

The second is you assume that the fact it's being reported as a suicide means anything. It doesn't add any information to the story. Even if the initial police investigators said it was an "apparent suicide" that is literally one person's quick, educated, first glance "guesstimate".

Speculating that Webb killed himself is not based on any more evidence than speculating that Webb was murdered. Of course, the third fallacy you can introduce is some name calling - just say "conspiracy theory" and go like this: :eyes:

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:55 AM
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86. No, there aren't two fallacies operating here.
I'm not 100% sure that the law is the same in CA as it is in IL, but the very evidence of which I speak--- autopsy report, ballistic evidence, photos of the scene, etc.--- are ALL a matter of public record, pursuant to the law. I have no reason to believe that the law is very different in CA, since laws regarding vital statistics, death investigation and the liketend to be fairly uniform from state to state.

Your second statement, that "...that is literally one person's quick, educated, first glance ...." is partially correct--- that it is an educatedguess is correct, that it is a 'guesstimate' is not. Being intimately familiar with the internal operations, procedures and rules of law enforcement, I can assure you that no one would have used the phrase 'apparent suicide'casually, or offhandedly. That they used it at ALL when speaking to a journalist tells me that whoever spoke to the reporter was 99 and 44/100ths percent sure that it was a suicide.

Unless and until something resembling proof that this was amurder arises,it will never rise above the level of rank, uninformed and paranoid speculation.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:49 PM
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91. You won't get proof unless you research and look for it.
Evil men will do *anything* for power. Pretend you are evil for just a few moments and you are desperate to keep hold of your position in society, so desperate that you border on psychotic, what would you do to keep hold of your position and not become one of those "evil poor folks" that you've spent your life despsing?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:54 PM
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98. You really hit the quintessential fact about coincidence
theorists, they are purposively lazy bobbleheads who demand that you force feed them the facts.

You can lead a coincidence theorist to the facts but you can't make him/her learn them.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:29 PM
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100. you are "intimately familiar"?
You are "intimately familiar with the internal operations, procedures and rules of law enforcement" when it comes to politically sensitive victims? Okay.

In any case, right now, nothing is public record, and all we have to go on is the AP report. That, and the related histories of other journalists covering these stories, and the specific case of Webb.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:39 PM
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102. He's not 'politically sensitive'.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 03:39 PM by Cuban_Liberal
At best, he'd be annoying to the Bush family. After all, what harm came to the alleged 'BFEE' (obligatory shuuder, oooooohs and ahhhhs :eyes: ) as a result of his work?

Give me a freakin' break!

:eyes:
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:38 PM
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109. WhAAAA?????? Person, have you READ anything by
Webb on the CIA and drugs? Anything?

What is your problem?

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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #102
126. Child, when are you going to answer
my question? You sit on this topic sidetracking discussions and not answering important questions. You don't know a damn thing about Webb do you?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:25 AM
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83. The problem with people who put down conspiracy theories...
... is they act to inhibit investigation.

So, if you believe Gary Webb was a suicide, start your own damn thread. Don’t derail discussion on this one.

Gore Vidal says that certain people have demonized the words “conspiracy theory” in order to degrade the messenger and belittle the message.

Seems there are a lot of DUers who side with the BFEE on “conspiracy theory,” in general, and in the death of Gary Webb, specifically. The Bush version is that there are no conspiracies involving them. I guess that means they believe themselves to be above the law.

My point in starting this thread was to point out the extraordinary number of suicides among journalists who investigate the various activities of the Bush Gang, or “Machine” or Bush Family Evil Empire, for lack of a better term.

Whether Gary Webb was a victim of suicide or murder, I do not know. One thing you should remember when labeling others’ ideas as “conspiracy theory”: Your guess is as good as mine.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:09 AM
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89. A CON Tactic is to do a little deflection
in the content of a demeaning or harmful report/statement, so that readers and media whores will reverse and rewrite the report and make the attack against the messenger, thus placing the original charges in the "trash-can," never to be heard from again. The perfect examples are Dan Rather's report on AWOL's status in the TANG, Kerry's Vietnam activities.

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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:36 PM
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96. Exactly! And that ridiculous list they were passing around
of all the people Clinton had had killed was just a precursor to any real list that might be compiled against them, so that people will see the real list and think it's also bogus.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:15 PM
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94. Guess The Mafia's Not A Conspiracy That Murders People To Keep Them Quiet
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 01:16 PM by Beetwasher
Why is it so hard to believe that Bushco. would murder people to keep them quiet? Like that's never happened before?

I'll never get these tinfoil hat screamers who try to denegrate people who ask obvious questions.

Would unscrupulous people murder other people to control the most powerful nation on the planet? Well, the mafia does it for far less...Is Bushco. so scrupulous that they would never think of it? I don't get it, these people who scream "tinfoil!" are either retarded or worse.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:40 PM
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103. the mafia would kill you over a few hundred dollars in debt
and people act like the Bush clan would never do such a thing - when the stakes are a billion times higher. I guess we're just supposed to "trust them" to not break the law???
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:30 PM
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107. The Bushes haven't done a single thing deserving of trust.
Here's a nice overview of their business practices, from years before Poppy got ENRON to buy Dimson the Oval Office:

Bush Family Value$

The Bush clan's family business


By Stephen Pizzo
September 1, 1992
Mother Jones

In 1991, President Bush bristled at a flurry of news accounts that questioned the business ethics of three of his sons. "The media ought to be ashamed of itself for what they're doing," Bush complained. "They have a right to make a living, and their relationships are appropriate," added a White House spokeswoman in June 1992.

Since George Bush has raised "family values" as a campaign issue repeatedly, though, it seems only fair to take a look at his own family. A computer search showed that over the past five years stories have periodically surfaced chronicling the individual business antics of the president's sons -- each riding comfortably through life in the slipstream of his father's growing power and influence.

Although a handful of good reporters for the New York Times, LA Times, Village Voice, and Wall Street Journal have diligently been digging through business records for months, something has been missing: an overview that "connects the dots" in the myriad deals that have been examined, making it clear that cashing in on influence has become a pattern of behavior extending through the first family.

Instead of criticizing reporters, the president might more wisely begin listening to those in government who have watched his sons with mounting worry. A year ago, I sat across a desk from a Secret Service agent who had been assigned to Bush-family security. I rattled off the names of a half-dozen questionable characters who had found their way into business deals with the Bush boys. How had these characters been allowed to get even close to the president's sons?

The agent slumped back in his chair and sighed. "We warn them," he said in a whisper. "But that's all we can do. We can't stop these kids from associating with someone they want to be with. All we can do after warning them is to sweep these guys with metal detectors when they come around."

CONTINUED...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html
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KSAtheist Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:20 AM
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114. An alternative view.
I believe the reason most conspiracy theorists are belittled and treated with contempt is their inability to calmly and rationally explain their ideas. As this thread shows, it most often leads to hand-wringing histronics and a fortress mentality. He raised a valid point about conspiracy theories, and through your response, you only served to prove his assertion.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:53 PM
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111. You're quite right; it's also called "heads I win, tails you lose."
(n/t)
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:55 PM
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92. Somebody better put a 24-hr security on Kitty Kelly.
I fear for her life as well.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:52 PM
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97. I was thinking the same thing. She just got fired from
her job at the Washingtonian because the editor (Jerry "Limpy" Limbert) didn't like what she said about the Bushies in her book "The Family". Now I wonder who put the pressure on her editor?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:30 PM
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108. Don't mess with the Bu$h Crime Family
:scared::nuke:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:49 PM
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125. D'ja ever see work by Mark Lombardi?
The guy PEGGED the BFEE. Here's "george w. bush, harken energy, and jackson stevens" c.1979-90, 5th version, 1999
graphite on paper, 20 x 44 inches.



Detail:



Note connections between James R Bath, Salem bin Laden, Osama bin Laden and George W Bush.

Lombardi's library was something to behold. Here's a link to a listing:

http://www.pierogi2000.com/flatfile/lombardibibliography.html

Of course, just as his career was taking off, Mark Lombardi "suicided."
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:58 PM
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112. when are you going to finally put a stop to this?
when????!!!!!!!

how long is this going to go on????!!!!!

for chrissakes! wake up! you have a duty to stop these fascist bastards!

Individuals have international duties which transcend the
national obligations of obedience ... Therefore citizens] have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent
crimes against peace and humanity from occurring.

--The Nuremberg Tribunal 1945-1946

Also, please, for the love of your country and the for the future of your children…

StOP tHESE FASCISt BASARDS NOW!!!!!!!




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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:01 PM
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127. To make it stop, we call these NAZI bastards what they are -- MURDERERS!
They killed JFK and they've killed millions since -- from Vietnam to Chile to Iraq. The only way we can get them to stop is with theTruth.

Show everyone the Truth and they will see them for what they are. Spread the word about what Gary Webb was reporting and had written. Talk about what the BFEE are doing and call them what they are -- cold hearted killers.

To think that so many DUers are the quickest to defend them. And that's why I post this stuff. People need to learn about what is happening to them.

Wake up, those ignorant to the ways of the world and the BFEE. Listen up and help spread the word. Bush and his gang aren't just thieves. They are NAZIs bent on world domination. Call them PNAC or neo-cons or whatever. They're still murderers.

JFK Jr.'s plane goes down. Pilot error. Paul Wellstone's plane goes down. Bad weather. The vice-chair of ENRON tells friends he'll cooperate with investigators and he turns up dead from rat shot in his pajamas. Happens all the time. Journalists, writers and artists who get too close to the BFEE turn up suicided. Coincidence.

Brace up, Fellow DUers. It literally is a battle for life and death. Our world hangs in the balance.
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major_rager Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:33 AM
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115. PASS THIS INFO ALONG.....
The National Security Archives: (Awesome site!) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm
Ollie North�s diary entries, memos, email (2/26/04) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/index.htm
Gary Webb�s Dark Alliance Home Page http://home.comcast.net/~gary.webb/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
Congressional Testimony of Celerino Castillo: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/hall/contra1.html
Photographs and additional notes from Castillo�s career: http://www.drugwar.com/castillo.shtm
http://mediafilter.org/MFF/DEA.35.html
U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters� website: http://www.house.gov/waters/ (see press releases 1996-2000)
http://www.house.gov/waters/ciareportwww.htm and http://www.house.gov/waters/volii.press1198.htm
A Chronology From Mother Jones Magazine: http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/coke.html
http://www.motherjones.com/sideshow/cia.html
Actual copy of the CIA agreement allowing drugs: and and http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/ex1.html
FAIR covers media cover-up http://www.fair.org/issues-news/contra-crack.html
California State University Northridge (CSUN) Professor of Communications Ben Attias�
Cocaine Import Agency website: http://www.csun.edu/CommunicationStudies/ben/news/cia/
Retired Federal Agent Michael Levine: http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/essays/e1.htm
Former Associated Press & Newsweek writer Bob Parry: http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack.html
Knight and Bernstein CIA-drug allegations 1987-1997 http://www.flashpoints.net/ArticleArchiveIndex.html
Interview with Professor Alfred McCoy: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/heroin/mccoy1.htm
Former law enforcement agents comment on drug war: http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/
Website of Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., a former Canadian diplomat and English Professor at the University of California, Berkeley and the author of Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies and the CIA in Central America. http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/index.html
The Media Cover-Up: (excellent article) http://www.copi.com/articles/darker.html
The Kerry Commission�s report online: http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html
http://www.thememoryhole.com/kerry/
Testimony of Lt. Col. James �Bo� Gritz http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/gritz.html and http://www.dcia.com/trimmer.html
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/gritz/index.htm and http://www.serendipity.li/cia/gritz1.htm
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major_rager Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:36 AM
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116. VETERAN DRUG AGENTS BACK WEBB STORY
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/whosarat/vpost?id=12


Contributor's profile:

Two weeks after Gary Webb's "Dark Alliance" series appeared in the San Jose Mercury News in August 1996, contributing editor Charles Bowden found himself in a bar, having a few drinks with some narcs (his idea of a good night). "For some reason, Webb's piece came up, and I asked the guys, 'So, what do you think? Is what Webb wrote about the CIA true?'" recalls Bowden, the author of fifteen books, including Blood Orchid and Juarez: The Laboratory of Our Future. "And they all turned to me and said, "Of course it is.' That's when I knew that somebody
would have to do this story, and I figured it might as well be me." "The Pariah," Bowden's story on Webb -- a man he describes as "real smart, real straight, lives on a cul-de-sac, family man, all that crap" -- begins on page 150.


Editor's letter :

....The world Charles Bowden leads us into in his story, "The Pariah" (page 150), is, on the other hand, a place few would willingly visit. Reporter Gary Webb chose to enter the alternate universe where the CIA sponsors armies and sometimes finds itself allied with drug dealers who sell their wares in the United States. Webb wrote a newspaper series that documented how the Nicaraguan contras of the 1980s were in part financed by just such an arrangement -- and he was then professionally destroyed for it. Bowden, in the course of reporting this story over the last six months, found considerable evidence that parallels and supports Webb's articles -- including revelations from one of the DEA's most decorated agents, who speaks for the first time about the CIA's complicity in the drug trade. It was not, however, the agency's ties to drug traffickers that Bowden found most disturbing. It was that a man can lose his livelihood, his calling, his reputation, for telling the truth....

--David Granger


------------------------------------------

THE PARIAH

Two years ago, Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that said some bad things about the CIA and drug traffickers. The CIA denied the charges, and every major newspaper in the country took the agency's word for it. Gary Webb was ruined. Which is a shame, because he was right.

By Brad Wilson Charles Bowden | Sep 01 '98


HE TELLS ME I'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHEN THE BIG DOG GETS OFF THE PORCH, and I'm getting confused here. He is talking to me from a fishing camp up near the Canadian border, and as he tries to tell me about the Big Dog, I can only imagine a wall of green and deep blue lakes with northern pike. But he is very patient with me. Mike Holm did his hard stints in the Middle East, the Miami station, and Los Angeles, all for the United States Drug Enforcement Agency, and he is determined that I face the reality he knows. So he starts again. He repeats, "When the Big Dog gets off the porch, watch out." And by the Big Dog, he means the full might of the United States government. At that moment, he continues, you play by


Big Boy rules, and that means, he explains, that there are no rules but to complete the mission. We've gotten into all this schooling because I asked him about reports that he received when he was stationed in Miami that Southern Air Transport, a CIA-contracted airline, was landing planeloads of cocaine at Homestead Air Force Base nearby. Back in the eighties, Holm's informants kept telling him about these flights, and then he was told by his superiors to "stand down because of national security." And so he did. He is an honorable man who believes in his government, and he didn't ask why the flights were taking place; he simply obeyed. Because he has seen the Big Dog get off the porch, and he has tasted Big Boy rules. Besides, he tells me, these things are done right, and if you look into the matter, you'll find contract employees or guys associated with the CIA, but you won't find a CIA case officer on a loading dock tossing kilos of coke around. Any more than Mike Holm ever saw a plane loaded top to bottom with kilos of coke. He didn't have to. He believed his informants. And he believed in the skill and power of the CIA. And he believed in the sheer might and will of the Big Dog when he finally decides to get off the porch.

As his words hang in the air, I remember a convict who says he once worked with the United States government and who also tasted Big Boy rules. This man has not gone fishing. This convict insisted that I hold the map up to the thick prison glass as he jabbed his finger into the mountains. There, he said, that's the place, and his eyes gleamed as his words accelerated. There, in the mountains, they have a colony of two thousand Colombians out of Medellin, guarded by the Mexican army. I craned my neck to see where his finger was rubbing against the map, and made an x with my pen. That's when the guard burst into the convict's small cubicle and ordered him to sit down.

The convict is a man of little credibility in the greater world. He is a Mexican national, highly intelligent and exact in his speech. He is a man electric with the memory of his days working as a DEA informant in Mexico, huddling in his little apartment with his clandestine radio. He said I must check his DEA file; he gave the names of his case officers; he noted that he delivered to them the exact locations of thirteen airfields operated jointly by the drug cartels and the CIA. The man's eyes bugged out as his excitement shredded the tedium of doing time and he returned to his former life of secret transmissions, cutouts, drinks with pilots ferrying dope, bullshitting his way through army checkpoints.

He said, "I'll be out in six months or one year, depending on the hearing. We can go. I'll take you up there." I have always steered clear of the secret world, because it is very hard to penetrate, and because if you discover anything about it, you are not believed. And because I remember what happened to one reporter who wrote about that world, about the Big Dog getting off the porch, about the Big Boy rules. So I thought about the convict's information and did nothing with it.

But this reporter who went ahead and wrote while I stopped, I kept thinking about him. When I mention him, and what happened to him, to Mike Holm, he says, "Ah, he must have drawn blood." Holm is very impressed with the CIA, and he wants me to slow down, think, and understand something: "The CIA's mission is to break laws and be ruthless. And they are dangerous."

I had been thinking about looking into the claim that during the civil war in Nicaragua in the eighties, the CIA helped move dope to the United States to buy guns for the contras, who were mounting an insurrection against the leftist Sandinistas. So I called up Hector Berrellez, a guy who worked under Mike Holm in Los Angeles, a guy known within the DEA as its Eliot Ness, and he said, "Look, the CIA is the best in the world. You're not going to beat them; you're never going to get a smoking gun. The best you're going to get is a little story from me."

What Berrellez meant by a smoking gun is this: proof that the United States government has, through the Central Intelligence Agency and its ties to criminals, facilitated the international traffic in narcotics. That's the trail the reporter was on when his career in newspapers went to rack and ruin. So I decided to look him up.

His name is Gary Webb.

GARY WEBB LOVES THE STACKS OF THE STATE LIBRARY ACROSS from the capitol in Sacramento, the old classical building framed with aromatic camphor trees. He enters the lobby and becomes part of a circling mural called War Through the Ages, an after-flash of World War I painted by Frank Van Sloun in 1929. The panels start with the ax and club, then wade through gore to doughboys marching off to the War to End All Wars. THIS HOUSE OF PEACE, the inscription on the west wall admonishes, SHALL STAND WHILE MEN FEAR NOT TO DIE IN ITS DEFENSE.

He was here in the summer of 1995 because of a call from a woman named Coral Marie Talavera Baca. She told him her drug-dealer boyfriend was in jail and one of the witnesses against him was "a guy who used to work with the CIA selling drugs. Tons of it." Webb was brought up short: In eighteen years of reporting, every person who'd ever called him about the CIA had turned out to be a flake. Webb started to back away on the phone, and the woman sensed it and exploded: "How dare you treat me like an idiot!" She said she had lots of documents and invited him to a court date that month. And so he went.

Coral's boyfriend turned out to be a big-time trafficker. She brought Webb a pile of DEA and FBI reports about, and federal grand-jury testimony by, a guy named Oscar Danilo Blandon. Webb was intrigued by government files that told of Nicaraguans selling dope in California and giving dope money to the contras. During a break in the hearing, he headed for the restroom and ran into the U.S. attorney, David Hall. Webb told him he was a reporter for the San Jose Mercury News, and Hall asked why he was at a piddling hearing. "Actually, I've been reading," Webb answered, "and I was curious to know what you made of Blandon's testimony about selling drugs for the
contras in L.A. Did you believe him?" "Well, yeah," Hall answered, "but I don't know how you could absolutely confirm it. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. The CIA won't tell me anything."

Webb followed a trail of crumbs: some San Francisco newspaper clips, some court records in San Diego, where this strange figure, Blandon, had been indicted for selling coke in 1992 and, according to the documents, had been at it for years and sold tons. He and his wife had been held without bail because the federal prosecutor, L.J. O'Neale, said his minimum mandatory punishment would be life plus a $4 million fine. Blandon's defense attorney had argued that his client was being smeared because he'd been active in helping the contras in the early eighties.
The file told Webb that Blandon wound up doing about two years, and that he was now out. The file recorded that at O'Neale's request, the government had twice quietly cut Blandon's sentence and that he was now working as a paid undercover informant for the DEA.

After about six weeks of this kind of foraging, Webb went to the state library. For six days in September, he sat at a microfiche with rolls of dimes and read an eleven-hundred-page report from 1989 compiled by a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a subcommittee chaired by Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts that dealt with the contras and cocaine.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/kerry/index.htm
Buried in the federal document was evidence of direct links between drug dealers and the contras; evidence, dated four years before the American invasion of Panama, that Manuel Noriega was in the dope business; drug dealers saying under oath that they gave money to the contras (and passing polygraphs); pilots talking of flying guns down and dope back and landing with their cargoes at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida.

Suddenly, Coral's phone call didn't seem so crazy. Webb called up Jack Blum, the Washington, D.C., lawyer who led the Kerry inquiry and said, "Maybe I'm crazy, but this seems like a huge story to me." "Well, it's nice to hear someone finally say that, even if it is ten years later," Blum allowed, and then he proceeded to tell Webb almost exactly what he told me recently when I made a similar innocent phone call to him. "What happened was, our credibility was questioned, and we were personally trashed. The administration and some people in Congress tried to make us look like crazies, and to some degree it worked. I remember having conversations with reporters in which they would say, 'Well, the administration says this is all wrong.' And I'd say, 'Look, why don't you cover the fucking hearing instead of coming to me with what the administration says?' And they'd say, 'Well, the witness is a drug dealer. Why should I do that?' And I used to say this regularly: 'Look, the minute I find a Lutheran minister or a priest who was on the scene when they delivered six hundred kilos of cocaine at some air base in contra land, I'll put him on the stand, but until then, you take what you can get.' The big papers stayed as far away from this issue as they could. It was like they didn't want to know."

Webb was entering contra land, and when you enter that country, you run into the CIA, since the contras were functionally a CIA army. (The agency hired them, picked their leaders, plotted their strategy, and sometimes, because of contra incompetence, executed raids for them.) This is hardly odd, since the agency was created in 1947 for precisely such toils and has over the decades sponsored armies around the world, whether to land at the Bay of Pigs or kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan. After a year of research, in August 1996, Webb published a three-day, fifteen-thousand-word series in the Mercury News called "Dark Alliance." It is a story almost impossible to recapitulate in detail but simple in outline: Drug dealers working with the contras brought tons of cocaine into California in the 1980s and sold a lot of it to one dealer, a legend called Freeway Ricky Ross, who had connections with the L.A. street gangs and through this happenstance helped launch the national love of crack. That's it, a thesis that mixes the realpolitik of the-ends-justify-the-means with dollops of shit-happens.

The series set off a firestorm in black communities, where many suspected they had been deliberately targeted with the dope as an act of genocide (there is no evidence of that), and provoked repudiations of the story by The Washington Post, The New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times. The knockdowns of Webb's story questioned the importance of Nicaraguan dealers like Blandon, the significance of Ricky Ross, how much money, if any, reached the contras, and how crucial any of this was to the crack explosion in the eighties, and brushed aside
any evidence of CIA involvement. But while raising questions about Webb's work, none of these papers or any other paper in the country undertook a serious investigation of Webb's evidence. A Los Angeles Times staff member who was present at a meeting called to plan the Times's response has told me that one motive for the paper's harsh appraisal was simply pride: The Times wasn't going to let an out-of-town paper win a Pulitzer in its backyard.

Later, when it was all over, Webb spelled out exactly what he meant and exactly what he thought of the CIA's skills: The series "focused on the relationship between the contras and the crack king. It mentioned the CIA's role in passing, noting that some of the money had gone to a CIA-run army and that there were federal law-enforcement reports suggesting that the CIA knew about it. I never believed, and never wrote, that there was a grand CIA conspiracy behind the crack plague. Indeed, the more I learned about the agency, the more certain of that I became. The CIA couldn't even mine a harbor without getting its trench coat stuck in its fly."

After a while, the San Jose Mercury News series disappeared except on a few byways of the Internet, Gary Webb was ruined, and things went back to normal. Things like Oliver North's diary entry linking dope and guns for the contras, like Carlos Lehder, a big Colombian drug dealer, testifying as a prosecution witness in federal court during the Noriega trial about the Medellin cartel's $10 million donation to the contras, like the entire history of unseemly connections between the international drug world and the CIA -- all this went away, as it has time and time again in the past. A kind of orthodoxy settled over the American press that assumed that Webb's work had been thoroughly refuted. He became the Discredited Gary Webb.

And so in June 1997, Webb wound up going to a motel room he hated. The Mercury News's editors were supposed to fix him up with an apartment, but they never figured he'd show up for his dead-end transfer from investigative reporter to pretty much a nothing. So they made no arrangements, just shunted him to the paper's Cupertino bureau on the south end of Silicon Valley, his family 150 miles away in Sacramento. After a few days of the motel, he found himself in a tiny apartment. He was in his early forties, and his life and his life's work were over. He endlessly watched a tape of Caddyshack and tried to forget about missing his wife, Sue, his three kids, his dog, his work. He was an ordinary guy, by his lights, with the suburban home, an aquarium in the study, two games a week in an amateur hockey league. Now, during the day, he visited the bureau, and the guys there treated him okay, because they were all in the same boat, people who had pissed off their newspaper and been shipped to its internal Siberia, where they were paid to retool the press releases of the computer and software companies. Webb was fighting the paper through arbitration with the Newspaper Guild, and so while his case dragged on, he refused to let his byline run. But he did his assignments. After all, they were paying him a solid mid-five-figure wage; he was their star investigative reporter, the guy they had brought in from The Cleveland Plain Dealer in 1987 to do, in their words, "kick-ass journalism." Within two years, he'd helped them bring home a Pulitzer with a team of Mercury News reporters who jumped on the San Francisco earthquake. Then he blew the lid off civil forfeiture in
California -- law enforcement's practice of seizing property from alleged crooks and then forgetting to ever convict, try, or even charge them. That series got the law changed. He was hot. He was good. He kicked ass.

Now Caddyshack flickered against his eyes hour after hour. His thirteen-year-old son asked, "Why don't you get another job?" And Gary Webb told him, "That's what they think I'll do. But they're wrong. I'm gonna fight."
But fight how? He was one fucking disgrace. Oliver North described his work as "absolute garbage." Webb was stretched thin. The week the series ran, he and his wife closed on a new house and moved in. Payments. So each morning, he went to the Cupertino bureau, and there were assignments from the city desk. Seems a police horse died, and he was supposed to nail down this equine death. So he did. He investigated the hell out of it and wrote it up, and, by God, the thing was good. Went on page one, of course, without his name on it. The horse died from a medical problem, constipation. The horse was full of shit.

HECTOR BERRELLEZ STUMBLED ONTO GARY WEBB'S STORY YEARS before Gary Webb knew a thing about it. His journey into that world happened this way: Hector was not fond of cops. He remembered them slapping him around when he was a kid. He was a barrio boy from South Tucson, a square mile of poverty embedded in the booming Sun Belt city. His father was a Mexican immigrant. After being drafted into the Army in the late sixties, Berrellez couldn't find a job in the copper mines, so he hooked up as a temporary with the small South Tucson police force to finance his way through college. And it was then that Hector Berrellez accidentally discovered his jones: He loved working the streets with a badge. The state police force hired him, and Hector, still green, managed to do a one-kilo heroin deal in the early seventies, a major score for the time. The DEA snapped him up, and suddenly the kid who had wanted to flee the barrio and become a lawyer was a federal narc. He loved the life. In the DEA, there are the administrators, who usually have little street experience, the suits. And then there are the street guys like Hector, and they call themselves something else. Gunslingers. His hobbies were jogging, weight lifting, guitar playing. And firearms. A Glock? Never. "Only girls carry Glocks," he snaps. "They're a sissy gun. Plastic. You can't hit anyone over the head with a Glock."

In September 1986, Sergeant Tom Gordon of the Los Angeles sheriff's narcotics strike force pieced together intelligence about a big-time drug ring in town run by Danilo Blandon. A month later, on October 23, Gordon went before a judge with a twenty-page detailed statement documenting that "monies gained from the sales of cocaine are transported to Florida and laundered....The monies are filtered to the contra rebels to buy arms in the war in Nicaragua." He got a search warrant for the organization's stash houses. On Friday, October 24, there was a briefing of more than a hundred law-enforcement guys from the sheriff's office, the DEA, the FBI. That was the same day that President Ronald Reagan, after months of hassle, signed a $100 million aid bill that reactivated a licit cash flow to the beleaguered contras. And on Monday, October 27, at daybreak, the strike force simultaneously hit fourteen L.A.-area stash houses connected with Blandon.

That's where just another day in the life of Hector Berrellez got weird. Generally, at that early hour, good dopers are out cold; the work tends toward long nights and sleeping. As Berrellez remembers, "We were expecting to come up with a lot of coke." Instead, they got coffee and sometimes doughnuts. The house he hit had the lights on, and everyone, two men and a woman, was up. The guy who answered the door said, "Good morning; we've been expecting you. Come on in." The house was tidy, the beds were already made, and the damn coffee was on. The
three residents were polite, even congenial. "It was obvious," says Berrellez, "that they were told." The place was clean; all fourteen houses were clean. The only thing Berrellez and the other guys found in the house was a professional scale.

But there was a safe, and Berrellez got one of the residents to open it reluctantly. Inside, he found records of kilos matched with amounts of money, an obvious dope ledger, a photograph of a guy in flight dress in front of what looked to be a military jet, and photographs of some guys in combat. Hector asked the guy who the hell the people in the photographs were, and the guy said, "Oh, they are freedom fighters." What the hell is this? Berrellez wondered. He left and went to a couple of the other houses that had been hit, and Jesus, they were clean, the coffee was on, sometimes there were doughnuts for the cops, and the same kind of documents showed up. But no dope, not a damn thing.

For a holy warrior, October 27, 1986, was a bad day. At the debriefing after the raid, Berrellez remembers one of the cops saying that the houses had been tipped to the raid by "elements of the CIA." And he thought, What? "I was shocked," he says now. "I was in a state of belief." He was supposed to believe that his own government was helping dopers? No way. "I didn't want to believe," he says And so he didn't. He was that rock-solid first-generation citizen, and he believed in America. He remembers having this ongoing argument with his dad about whether there was corruption in the U.S. like the old man had tasted in Mexico. His father would ask, Do you really think things are so clean here? And Hector would have none of it; damn right they're clean here. And he was clean, and he was in a good outfit (a position he is still passionate about -- his absolute love for the troops he served with in the DEA), and he was in a holy war against a tide of poison.

In 1987, he was transferred to Mazatlan in Sinaloa, Mexico, to run the DEA station. Sinaloa was the drug center for Mexico; in the history of the Mexican drug cartels, all but one leader has been Sinaloan born and bred. He took the wife, got a beach house in the coastal city, and ran with the job. Two months into the assignment, narcotrafficantes chased his wife and two-year-old daughter from the beach back to the house, and they had to be evacuated to the States.

In October 1988, Hector and some Mexican federal police hit a small hamlet that housed a ton of coke and twenty tons of marijuana. The firefight lasted three hours, with thousands of rounds exchanged. When three federales were mowed down on the field of fire, Hector managed to pull them to safety with another agent. He commandeered a cab to take the wounded to a hospital, then returned to the shoot-out. For this combat, Hector and two other agents at the scene were brought to the White House and given a medal by Attorney General Edwin Meese. He was on a roll that would eventually earn him twelve consecutive superior-performance awards.


Hector Berrellez, twenty-four years in the DEA, known as the agency's Eliot Ness. As he read about Gary Webb, he thought, This shit is true.


In Mexico, Hector was running two hundred to three hundred informants, and he was bringing in a torrent of information on the drug world and its links to the Mexican government. But something else happened down there in Sinaloa that stuck in his mind. His army of informants was constantly reporting strange fortified bases scattered around Mexico, but they were not Mexican military bases, and, his informants told him, the planes were shipping drugs. Camps in Durango, Sinaloa, Baja, Veracruz, all over Mexico. Hector wrote up these camps and the information he was getting on big drug shipments. And each month, he would go to Mexico City to meet with his DEA superiors and American-embassy staff, and he started mentioning these reports. He was told, Stay away from those bases; they're our training camps, special operations. He thought, What the hell is this? I'm here to enforce the drug laws, and I'm being told to do nothing.

THE EMPTY ROOM SAGS WITH FATIGUE AS THE SPORTS TELEVISIONS quietly float in the corner. California's ban on smoking has emptied the watering holes. The hotel squats by a four-lane highway amid bland suburbs that blanket Sacramento's eastern flank against the Sierra Nevada. Everything is normal here; this is the visual bedrock of Ronald Reagan's America.

Gary Webb orders Maker's Mark on the rocks. He is a man of average height, with brown hair, a trim mustache, an easy smile, and laconic, laid-back speech, the basic language of Middle America. He moves easily, a kind of amble through life. His father was a marine, and his childhood meant moving a lot before finally coming to ground in Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio. He's married to his high school sweetheart; they have three kids and live on a tree-lined cul-de-sac with a pool in back, a television in the family room, his Toyota with 150,000 miles in the drive, Sue's minivan, and on the cement the chalk outline of a hopscotch game. He looks white-collar, maybe sells insurance.

All he has ever wanted to be is a reporter. He started out as a kid, writing up sports results for a weekly at a nickel an inch. The Gary Webb who suddenly loomed up nationally with this bad talk about the CIA and drugs was a long time coming, and he came from the dull center of the country, and he came from an essay entitled, "What America Means to Me," for which he was runner-up in the fifth-grade essay contest, and he came from the smell of ink, the crackle of a little weekly where he nailed cold the week's tumult in the Little League.

Webb is not a drinker, probably because his marine father was, but now in the empty hotel bar, he is drinking. He is not used to talking about himself, because he is a reporter, and a reporter is not the story, but now he is talking about himself. When Gary Webb talks, he sometimes leans back, but often as not, he leans forward, and when he is really into what he is saying, he grabs his left wrist with his right hand as if he were taking his own pulse, and then his voice gets even flatter, and the words are very evenly spaced, and he never goes too fast, hardly any hint of
rat-a-tat-tat -- he is always measured and unexcited. But when he grabs that wrist, you can tell now that the words really matter. Because he believes. In facts. In publishing facts. In the fact that publishing facts makes a difference in how people look at things. Believes, without reason or question, believes absolutely. As for coincidence, it doesn't fit in with his mission. He also has no tolerance for conspiracy theories. By God, if he finds a conspiracy, it is not a theory, it is a fucking conspiracy, because it is grounded in facts.

When he was twenty-three, he was kind of drifting, living in the basement of Sue's house with her parents. He was writing rock 'n' roll stuff for a weekly, still grinding away at college and about three units shy of a degree. His father walked out on the marriage, leaving his mother, a housewife, and his younger brother without a check. So Webb quit college to support them. A teacher in his journalism department told him that the strange guy who ran the Post in Lexington, Kentucky, set aside one day a week for walk-ins. Webb walked in and said, "I need a job."
The editor said, "Go do two pieces and bring them back in a week."

One was on the barmaids and strippers of Newport, Kentucky, the sin town across the river from Cincinnati. The editor tossed it aside and said, "Thrice-told tale." The other was on a guy who carved gravestones; that one the editor kind of liked. He said, "Bring me two more." Webb was shaken, went home and sat in the backyard, and then he thought, Fuck, I can do this. This goes on for weeks. A kid calls the paper about the dog he's found run over in the street. He's taken it to the Humane Society; they want to put it to sleep, and the kid is very upset. Webb is sent out to see if he can do anything fit for a newspaper. He talks to the vet, who says it is hopeless, that the dog will never walk again, whether he operates or not. When Webb reports back to the editor, he says, "Get that guy on the phone," and after a few blunt words from the editor, by God, the vet is going to operate. And it works. The damn dog is leaping in the air. Finally, the dog goes home to the kid who found him, a kid in a wheelchair who seemed to identify with an injured mutt and was horrified at the idea that a cripple should be done away with. Story and photograph on the front page. Webb is hired. Years later, the old editor would tell him, "If that dog hadn't walked, you'd have never been hired."

There is a guy in the newsroom who is kind of burned out, a city editor. He watches the new hire for a few weeks. He tells him he will teach him the ropes, how to ferret out facts, how to find out damn near anything, how to be an investigative reporter. On one condition. He says Webb has to swear never to become a fucking editor. Webb agrees. His first series was seventeen parts on organized crime in the coal industry. Then he moved up to a good job on The Cleveland Plain Dealer and was in heaven: Ohio was the mother lode of corruption in government. He got an offer from the Mercury News in 1987. After a brief bidding war, he moved the family west, great place to raise kids, and besides, during his father's wanderings as a marine, Webb happened to be born in California. Everything was fine. He was in the Sacramento bureau and so hardly ever in the newsroom, much less around editors. In a big story for the paper, he took on one of the area's major employers. After the first day of the story, the company bought a full-page ad refuting it. After the next installment, the company bought a two-page ad. Webb looked around and noticed that nothing happened to him. The paper backed him up.

GARY WEBB'S "DARK ALLIANCE" BROKE AN OLD STORY. THE HISTORY of the CIA's relationship with international drug dealers has been documented and published, yet it is almost completely unknown to most citizens and reporters. Webb himself had only a dim notion of this record. And so he reacted with horror when the implications of his research first began to become clear to him: that while much of the federal government fought narcotics as a plague, the CIA, in pursuing its foreign-policy goals, sometimes facilitated the work of drug traffickers. "Dark Alliance" is surrounded by a public record that bristles with similar instances of CIA connections with drug people:

-- Alan Fiers, who headed the CIA Central American Task Force, testified during the Iran-contra hearings in August 1987, "With respect to the resistance forces...it is not a couple of people. It is a lot of people."

-- In 1983, fifty people, many of them Nicaraguans, were caught unloading a big coke shipment in San Francisco. A couple of them claimed involvement with the CIA, and after a meeting between CIA officials and the U.S. attorney handling the case, $36,000 found in a bedside table was returned because it "belonged to the contras." This spring, when the CIA published its censored report on involvement of the agency with drug traffickers in the contra war (a report that exists solely because a firestorm erupted in Congress after Webb's series), this incident was explained thusly: "Based upon the information available to them at the time, CIA personnel reached the erroneous conclusion that one of the two individuals...was a former CIA asset." Logically, an admission that CIA "assets" can sometimes be drug dealers.

-- In 1986, Wanda Palacio parted company with the Medellin cartel and started talking to Senator John Kerry's subcommittee, which was looking into the byways of the contra war and dope. Palacio said she'd witnessed two flights of coke out of Barranquilla, Colombia, on planes belonging to the CIA-contracted Southern Air Transport. She also had the dates and had seen the pilot. She also said Jorge Ochoa, another drug boss, said the flights were part of a "drugs for guns" deal. On September 26, 1986, Kerry took her eleven-page statement to William Weld, who was then the assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division of the Justice Department. Weld allowed that he was not surprised to find claims of "bum agents, former and current CIA agents" dabbling in dope deals with the Colombian cartels. On October 3, Weld's office rejected Palacio's statement and offer to be a witness because of what it saw as contradictions in her testimony. On October 5, 1986, the Sandinistas shot a CIA plane out of the sky and captured one of Oliver North's patriots, one Eugene Hasenfus. Palacio was sitting in Kerry's office when a photograph of Hasenfus's dead pilot flashed across the television screen. She whooped that the pilot was the same guy she'd seen in Colombia loading coke on the Southern Air Transport flight in early October 1985. An Associated Press reporter, Robert Parry, investigated the crash and obtained the pilot's logs, which showed that on October 2, 4, and 6, 1985, the pilot had taken a Southern Air Transport plane to Barranquilla, Colombia. Palacio took a polygraph on the matter and passed.

-- Through much of the contra war, SETCO Air, an airline run by Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros out of Honduras, was the principal airline used to transport supplies and personnel for the contras. Hector Berrellez later sent Ballesteros to Marion Federal Prison in Illinois to serve a couple of life sentences for dope peddling.

ABOUT THE SAME TIME GARY WEBB WAS MAKING HIS BONES AT The Cleveland Plain Dealer and winning part of a Pulitzer at the Mercury News, Hector Berrellez was becoming a legend. After two years of living at ground zero in Sinaloa, he was brought home to Los Angeles in 1989 to take over the most significant investigation in DEA history, that of the murder of DEA agent Enrique "Kiki" Camarena. Camarena had been bagged in broad daylight from in front of the American consulate in Guadalajara in February 1986. His tortured body was found a month later. The investigation had stalled, so the DEA tossed it in Hector's lap. He ran with the new power, the raft of agents under his command, the huge budget for buying informants in Mexico. The case was a core matter for the DEA: The murder of Camarena was the event that gave the ragtag agency its martyr. The investigation was called Operation Leyenda, "Operation Legend."

During Operation Leyenda, a major drug guy in Sinaloa called Cochi Loco, "the Crazy Pig," put a contract on Hector's head. In the drug world, there are so many possible reasons for murder that a simple one is seldom clear. Whatever the immediate cause, in the early nineties a hit team was sent north to kill Hector.

One day in 1991, in the underground garage of the building in Los Angeles where the DEA and a bunch of federal agencies rent office space, someone walked up to a guy sitting in a car and clipped him in the head with a .22. The man died instantly and fell forward into the steering wheel, and the sound of a car horn wailed through the garage. Hector remembers that they found him with the motor running, and neatly placed on the floorboard of the car was the gun, in a Mexican-tooled holster, and the two latex surgical gloves that had been worn by the hit man. Someone wanted a clear message delivered.

The dead man was a guy from the General Services Administration who happened to work in the same building as the DEA. He had been in some kind of a hurry and had pulled into a DEA parking space. The guy was a ringer for Hector's partner. Three days after the hit, Hector picked up the phone in his office and heard the voice of Chichon Rico Urrea, a significant drug figure who was doing a stint in a prison in Guadalajara. Chichon told Hector, "You see what happened to your guy in the garage? That's going to happen to more of your guys."

Hector told the guy to go fuck himself, said he could kill all the fucking GSA guys he wanted. But Hector was questioning his faith. The faith was the war on drugs. The faith was that he was a righteous soldier in this war. The faith was that he was risking his life for the forces of light against the forces of darkness. And he was Eliot Ness, goddammit; he was the most decorated guy anyone could remember in the DEA, the man running its key investigation, the guy who had killed people, the guy bloodied in the world of Mexican corruption. All of that Hector could handle -- none of that could ever touch the faith. But other things could. Things he saw and learned in Mexico. And things he saw in the United States. He began to doubt that there was a real commitment to win this war on drugs. He saw his government winking at too many narcotics connections. He took Kiki Camarena's murder personally, because as agents they were mirror images -- gung-ho, committed drugbusters. And impediments to his investigation pissed Hector off. So in 1992, four years before Gary Webb sprang "Dark Alliance" on the world, Hector Berrellez sat down in his federal office in Los Angeles and picked up the phone and recommended action to the DEA. Things had come to his attention, and he thought, Somebody's gotta investigate this crap. In fact, he hoped to be that investigator.

Hector Berrellez wanted a criminal investigation of the Central Intelligence Agency. His $3 million snitch budget had brought in an unseemly harvest, report after report from informants that in the eighties CIA-leased aircraft were flying cocaine into places like the air-force base in Homestead, Florida, and the airfield north of Tucson long believed to be a CIA base. And that these planes were flying guns south. One of his witnesses in the Camarena case told him about flying in a U.S. military plane loaded with drugs from Guadalajara to Homestead. Other informants told him that major drug figures, including Rafael Caro Quintero, the man finally imprisoned for the Camarena murder, were getting guns delivered through CIA connections. Everywhere he turned, he ran into dope guys who had CIA connections, and to a narc this didn't look right. "I can't believe," he told his superiors, "that the CIA is handling all this shit and doesn't know what these pilots are doing." His superiors asked if he had hard evidence of actual CIA case officers moving dope, and he said no, just lots of people they employed. All intelligence services use the fabled �cutouts� to separate themselves from their grubby work.

The DEA in Washington asked for a memo, so Hector fired off a summary of his telephone request. Agents were assigned, and Hector shipped every snippet of new information to this team. Nothing came of the investigation. The DEA team came out and debriefed him and some of his agents. And then, silence.

Hector's Camarena work had burrowed deep, very deep, inside the Mexican government and found endless rot. With the vote on NAFTA in the air in the fall of 1993, his investigation started to get pressure, then his budget was cut. By 1994, after Justice Department officials had been in Mexico City, he was told, "Don't report that crap anymore." It was clear to Hector that the Mexican government wanted this Camarena investigation reined in. In early 1995, he learned of his future in a curious way. One of Hector's informants in Mexico City called another one of his informants in Los Angeles and said, Hector's getting transferred to Washington. The guy in Los Angeles said, No, no Hector's still here. Two months later, in April 1995, Berrellez was transferred to Washington, D.C. Over the years, Hector had become used to a certain amount of duplicity in the DEA. Some of his fellow agents, he had come to believe, were actually members of the CIA. The DEA had been penetrated.

At headquarters, Hector sat in an office with nothing to do. "There ain't no fucking drug war," he says now. "I was even called un-American. Nobody cares about this shit." He started going a little crazy. Each day, he checked into a blank schedule. So he caught a lot of double features.

In September 1996, he retired. He had had enough. The most decorated soldier in the war on drugs kind of faded out at the movies.

IN THE NEWS BUSINESS, IF YOU HANG AROUND LONG enough, you get a chance to find out who you are. Gary Webb was determined not to find out he was something ugly.

"I became convinced," he remembers, "that we're going to look back on the whole war on drugs fifty years from now like we look back on the McCarthy era and say, How did we ever let this stuff get so out of hand? How come nobody ever stood up and said, This is bullshit? I thought I had an obligation because I had the power at that point to tell people, Don't believe what you're being told about this war on drugs, because it is a lie. Very few people were in the position I was in, where I was able to write shit and get it in the newspapers. It was a very rare privilege. The editors at the Mercury gave me a lot of freedom because I produced. Then I got into this thing."

In December 1995, Webb wrote out his project memo, and suddenly, "I realized what we were saying here. I'm sitting at home, and this e-mail comes from a friend at the Los Angeles Times. And I had told him vaguely about this interesting story I was working on. I told him that he had no idea what his fucking government is capable of "And I was depressed because this was so horrible. It was like some guy told me that he had gone through the looking glass and was in this nether world that 99 percent of the American public would never believe existed. That's where I felt I was. When I sat down and wrote the project memo and said, Here's what we're going to say, and we're going to be accusing the government of bringing drugs into the country, essentially, and we've spent billions of dollars and locked up Americans for selling shit that the government helps to come into the country -- is just...If you believe in democracy and you believe in justice, it's fucking awful."

For six weeks after his series came out, Webb waited in a kind of honeymoon. His e-mail was exploding, he recalls, "from ordinary people who said, 'This has restored my faith in newspapers.' It was from college students, housewives that heard me on the radio; it was really remarkable to think that journalism could have this kind of effect on people, that people were out marching in the streets because of something that had been hidden from us all these years. The thing that surprised me was that there was no response from the press, from the government. It was total silence."

Finally, in early October, The Washington Post ran a story by Robert Suro and Walter Pincus headlined, THE CIA AND CRACK: EVIDENCE IS LACKING OF ALLEGED PLOT. The story focused in part on the fact that Webb had given a defense attorney questions to ask Oscar Danilo Blandon about his CIA connections. It also quoted experts who denied that the crack epidemic originated in Los Angeles, disputed that Freeway Rick Ross and Blandon were significant national players in the cocaine trade of the eighties (pegging Blandon's coke business at five tons over the decade, whereas Webb had evidence that it was more like two to five tons per year). And, the article continued, there was no evidence that the black community had been deliberately targeted (the "plot" referred to in the headline and a claim never made by Webb), that the CIA knew about Blandon's drug deals (also a claim never made by Webb, who in the series merely connected Blandon to CIA agents), or that Blandon had ever kicked in more than $60,000 to the contra cause (the Post based this number on unnamed law-enforcement officials;
Webb based his estimate of millions of dollars to the contras from dope sales on grand-jury testimony and court documents). Perhaps the best summary of the Post's retort to Webb came from the paper's own ombudsman, Geneva Overholser, some weeks later: "The Post...showed more passion for sniffing out the flaws in San Jose's answer than for sniffing out a better answer themselves. They were stronger on how much less money was contributed to the contras by the Mercury News's villains that their series claimed, how much less cocaine was introduced into L.A., than on how significant it is that any of these assertions are true."

In late October, the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times weighed in on consecutive days. The Los Angeles Times had two years before described Freeway Rick Ross vividly: "If there was an eye to the storm, if there was a criminal mastermind behind crack's decade-long reign, if there was one outlaw capitalist most responsible for flooding Los Angeles's streets with mass-marketed cocaine, his name was Freeway Rick....Ross did more than anyone else to democratize it, boosting volume, slashing prices, and spreading disease on a scale never
before conceived....While most other dealers toiled at the bottom rungs of the market, his coast-to-coast conglomerate was selling more than five hundred thousand rocks a day, a staggering turnover that put the drug within reach of anyone with a few dollars." In the 1996 response to Webb's series, the Los Angeles Times described Ross as one of many "interchangeable characters" and stated, "How the crack epidemic reached that extreme, on some level, had nothing to do with Ross." Both stories were written by the same reporter, Jesse Katz, and the 1996 story failed to mention his earlier characterization. The long New York Times piece the following day quoted unnamed government officials, CIA personnel, drug agents, and contras, and noted that "officials said the CIA had no record of Mr. Blandon before he appeared as a central figure in the series in the Mercury News."

A common chord rang through the responses of all three papers: It never really happened, and if it did happen, it was on a small scale, and anyway it was old news, because both the Kerry report and a few wire stories in the eighties had touched on the contra-cocaine connection. What is missing from the press responses, despite their length, is a sense that anyone spent as much energy investigating Webb's case as attempting to refute it. The "Dark Alliance" series was passionate, not clinical. The headlines were tabloid, not restrained. But whatever sins were committed in the presentation of the series, they cannot honestly be used to dismiss its content. It is puzzling that The New York Times felt it could discredit the story by quoting anonymous intelligence officials (a tack hardly followed in publishing the Pentagon Papers). In contrast, what is striking in Webb's series is the copius citation of documents. (In the Mercury News's Web-site version-cgi.sjmercury.com/drugs/postscriptfeatures.htm -- are the hyperlinked facsimiles of documents that tug one into the dark world of drugs and agents.) But when Jerry Ceppos, the executive editor of the Mercury News, wrote a letter in response to the Post's knockdown, the paper refused to print it because a defense of Webb's work would have resulted in spreading more "misinformation."

Despite Ceppos's initial defense of the series, the Mercury News seemed to choke on these attacks, and Webb could sense a sea change, But he kept on working, building a a bigger base of facts, following its implications deeper into the government. When the Mercury News forced him to choose between a $600,000 movie offer and book deals and staying on the story, Webb picked the story. He kept discovering people who had flown suitcases full of money to Miami from dope sales for the contras. He documented Blandon's contra dope sales from '82 through '86. Gary Webb was on a tear; he was going to advance the story. Almost none of this was published by the Mercury News; the paper grudgingly ran (and buried) one last story on New Year's Eve 1996.

The paper had printed the story of the decade, the one with Pulitzer prize written all over it, and now was unmistakably backing off it. Webb entered a kind of Orwellian world where no one said anything, but there was this thing in the air. The Mercury News assigned one of its own reporters to review the series, using the stories of the L.A. Times, The New York Times, and The Washington Post as the benchmark for what was fact.

Webb wouldn't admit it to himself, but he had become a dead man walking.

WHEN HECTOR BERRELLEZ SPENT HIS YEAR GOING TO MOVIES IN Washington, he knew he was finished in the DEA. One day in October 1996, a month after he retired, Hector Berrellez picked up a newspaper and read this big story about a guy named Gary Webb. Hector had lived in shadows, and talking to reporters had not been his style. "As I read, I thought, This shit is true," he says now. He hadn't a doubt about what Webb was saying. He saw the reporter as doomed. Webb hit a sensitive area, and for it he would be attacked and disbelieved.
Hector knew all about the Big Dog and the Big Boy rules.

Hector's body aches from the weight of secrets. When we meet, he is in a white sport shirt, slacks, a blue blazer with brass buttons, and a shoulder-holstered 9mm with fifteen rounds in the clip and two more clips strapped under his right arm. He may be a little over-armed for his Los Angeles private-investigation agency (the Mayo Group, which handles the woes of figures in the entertainment industry -- that pesky stalker, that missing money -- for a fat fee up front and two hundred dollars an hour), but not for his history. For the rest of his life, Hector Berrellez will be sitting in nice hotels like this one with a cup of coffee in his hand, a 9mm under his jacket, and very quick eyes.

He saw a lot of things and remembers almost all of them. He wrote volumes of reports. In 1997, he was interviewed by Justice Department officials about those unseemly drug ledgers and contra materials he saw during the raid on the fourteen Blandon stash houses back in 1986. His interviewers wanted particularly to know whether anyone besides Hector had seen them. They then told Hector that they couldn't find the seized material anymore.

Before he retired, Hector was summoned to Washington to brief Attorney General Janet Reno on Mexican corruption. He talked to her at length about how the very officials she was dealing with in Mexico had direct links to drug cartels. He remembers that she asked very few questions. Now he sits in the nice lounge of the nice hotel, and he believes the CIA is in the dope business; he believes the agency ran camps in Mexico for the contras, with big planes flying in and out full of dope. He now knows in his bones what the hell he really saw on October 27, 1986, when he hit the door of that house in the Los Angeles area and was greeted with politeness and fresh coffee.

But he doesn't carry a smoking gun around. The photos, the ledgers, all the stuff the cops found that morning as they hit fourteen stash houses where all the occupants seemed to be expecting company, all that material went to Washington and seems to have vanished. All those reports he wrote for years while in Mexico and then later running the Camarena case, those detailed reports of how he kept stumbling into dope deals done by CIA assets, never produced any results or even a substantive response.

Hector Berrellez is a kind of freak. He is decorated; he is an official hero with a smiling Ed Meese standing next to him in an official White House photograph. He pulled twenty-four years and retired with honors. He is, at least for the moment, neither discredited nor smeared. Probably because until this moment, he's kept silent.

And Hector Berrellez thinks that if the blacks and the browns and the poor whites who are zombies on dope ever get a drift of what he found out, well, there is going to be blood in the streets, he figures -- there is going to be hell to pay. He tells me a story that kind of sums up the place he finally landed in, the place that Gary Webb finally landed in. The place where you wonder if you are kind of nuts, since no one else seems to think anything is wrong. An agent he knows was deep in therapy, kind of cracking up from the undercover life. And the agent's shrink decided the guy was delusional, was living in some nutcase world of weird fantasies. So the doctor talked to Hector about his patient, about whether all the bullshit this guy was claiming was true, about dead men and women and children, strange crap like that. And he made a list of his patient's delusions, and he ticked them off to Hector. And Hector listened to them one by one and said, "Oh, that one, that's true. This one, yeah, that happened also." It went on like that. And finally, Hector could tell the shrink wondered just who was nuts -- Hector, his patient, or himself.

ON SUNDAY, MAY 11, 1997, GARY WEBB WAS hanging wallpaper in his kitchen when the San Jose Mercury News published a column by executive editor Jerry Ceppos that was widely read as a repudiation of Webb's series. It was an odd composition that retracted nothing but apologized for everything. Ceppos wrote, "Although the members of the drug ring met with contra leaders paid by the CIA and Webb believes the relationship was a tight one, I feel we did not have proof that top CIA officials knew of the relationship." Fair enough, except that Webb never wrote that top CIA officials knew of the contra-cocaine connection. The national press wrote front-page stories saying that the San Jose Mercury News was backing off its notorious series about crack. The world had been restored to its proper order. Webb fell silent. He had to deal with his own nature. He is not good at being polite. "I'm just fucking stubborn," he says, "and that's all there was to it, because I knew this was a good story, and I knew it wasn't over yet, and I really had no idea of what else to do. What else was I going to do?"

What he did was have the Newspaper Guild represent him in arbitration with the Mercury News over the decision to ship him to the wasteland of Cupertino. "I'm going to go through arbitration, and I'm going to win the arbitration, and I'm going to go to work," he says. "I was just going to fight it out. This was what I did, this was me, I was a reporter. This was a calling; it was not something you do eight to five. People were not exactly
beating down my door, saying, Well, okay, come work for us. I was...unreliable." So he went to Cupertino, and he wrote stories about constipated horses and refused to let his byline be printed. And then he went to his
apartment and missed his wife and family and watched Caddyshack endlessly. He was a creature living a ghostly life. The only thing he didn't figure on was himself. Webb slid into depression. Every week, the 150-mile drive between his family in Sacramento and his job in Cupertino became harder. Every day, it was harder to get out of bed and go to work.

And he was very angry most of the time. He says, "I was going to live in my own house and see my own kids. At some point, I figured something was going to give." Finally, he couldn't make it to work and took vacation time. When that was used up in early August, he started calling in sick. After that, he went on medical leave. A doctor examined him and said, "You are under a great deal of stress," and diagnosed him as having severe depression. He couldn't sleep. He couldn't do much of anything. He decided to write a book about "Dark Alliance," but this time no one wanted it. His agent was turned down by twenty-five publishers before finding a small press, Seven Stories, that operates as a kind of New York court of last resort.

A job offer came from the California state legislature to conduct investigations for the government-oversight committee at about the same money he made for the Mercury News. His wife said, Take the job. Why hang around in this limbo? Webb thought about her words and told himself, What do I win even if I do win in arbitration? I get to go back to my office and get bullshitted the rest of my life. He watered his lawn, worked on the house, read more and more contra stuff. Drifted in a sea of depression. "I didn't know what to do if I couldn't be a reporter," he says. "So all of a sudden, I was standing there on the edge of the cliff, and I don't have what I was doing for the last twenty years -- I don't have that to do anymore. I felt it was like I was neutered. I called up the Guild and said, 'Let's see if they want to settle this case.' They sent me a letter of resignation that I had to sign."

Webb carried the letter with him from November 19 to December 10 of last year. Every day, he got up to sign the letter and mail it. Every night, he went to bed with the letter unsigned. His wife would ask, Have you signed it? Somebody from the Mercury kept calling the Guild and asking, Has he signed it yet? "I mean," he says softly, "writing my name on that thing meant the end of my career. I saw it as a sort of surrender. It was like signing," and here he hesitates for several seconds, "my death certificate."

But finally he signed, and now he is functionally banned from the business. He's the guy nobody wants, the one who fucked up, the one who said bad things. Officially, he is dead, the guy who wrote the discredited series, the one who questioned the moral authority of the United States government.

If Gary Webb could have talked to a Hector Berrellez in the fall of 1996, when his stories were being erased by the media, Hector would have been like a savior to him. "Because he would have shown what I was reporting was not an aberration," Webb says now, "that this was part of a pattern of CIA involvement with drugs. And he would have been believed." But Webb was not that lucky, and the Hectors of the world were not that ready to talk then. So Webb was left out there alone, one guy with a bunch of interviews and documents. One guy who answered a question no one wanted asked.

I CAN HEAR HECTOR BERRELLEZ TELLING ME that I will never find a smoking gun. I can hear the critics of Gary Webb explaining that all he has is circumstantial evidence. Like anyone who dips into the world of the CIA, I find myself questioning the plain facts I read and asking myself, Does this really mean what I think it means?

-- In 1982, the head of the CIA got a special exemption from the federal requirement to report dealings with drug traffickers. Why did the CIA need such an exemption?
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/ex1.html
http://www.house.gov/waters/ciareportwww.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/sideshow/cia.html
-- Courthouse documents attest to the fact that the Blandon drug organization moved tons of dope for years with impunity, shipped millions to be laundered in Florida, and then bought arms for the contras. Why are Gary Webb's detractors not looking at these documents and others instead of bashing Webb over the head?

-- The internal CIA report of contra cocaine activity has never been released. The Justice Department investigation of Webb's charges has never been released. The CIA has released a censored report on only one volume of Webb's charges. The contra war is over, yet this material is kept secret. Why aren't the major newspapers filing Freedom of Information requests for these studies?

-- The fifty-year history of CIA involvement with heroin traffickers and other drug connections is restricted to academic studies and fringe publications. Those journalists who find themselves covering the war on drugs should read Alfred McCoy's massive study, The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, or Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall's Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central America.

-- Following the release of "Dark Alliance," Senator John Kerry told The Washington Post, "There is no question in my mind that people affiliated with, on the payroll of, and carrying the credentials of, the CIA were involved in drug trafficking while involved in support of the contras." Why has the massive Kerry report been ignored to this day?
http://www.thememoryhole.org/kerry/index.htm

-- On March 16, 1998, the CIA inspector general, Frederick P. Hitz, testified before the House Intelligence Committee. "Let me be frank," he said. "There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug-trafficking activity, or take action to resolve the allegations."

Representative Norman Dicks of Washington then asked, "Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?"

"Yes," Hitz answered.

The question is why a mountain of evidence about the CIA and drugs is ignored and why the legitimate field of inquiry opened by Webb remains unpursued and has become journalistic taboo.

Maybe the CIA is great for America. But if it is, surely it can roll up its sleeves and show us its veins.

WEBB AND HIS WIFE, SUE, ARE STANDING IN the driveway with me after a Thai dinner in Sacramento. The night is fresh; spring is in the air. A frog croaks from the backyard on the quiet and safe suburban street. Sue has just finished rattling off details from one facet of the contra war, the CIA drug-airline operation run out of Ilopango airfield in El Salvador. She seems to have absorbed a library of material over the last three years of her husband's obsession. Before, he always worked like hell, she knows, but on this one he brought it home. He could not keep it separated from his wife and family and his weekly hockey games. So Sue, with her winning smile and cheerful ways, has become an authority on America's dark pages. And we stand there in the fine evening air, the rush of spring surging through the trees and grass and shrubs, talking about the endless details of this buried episode in the secret history.

And I wonder how Webb deals with it, with all the hard work done, with all the facts and documents devoured, and with all this diligent toil resulting in his personal ruin, depriving him of the only kind of work he has ever wanted in his life.

And I remember what he said earlier that day while he sat in his study, leaning toward me, his right hand gripping his left wrist: "The trail is littered with bodies. You go down the last ten years, and there is a skeleton here and a skeleton there of somebody that found out about it and wrote about it. I thought that this is the truth, and what can they do to you if you tell the truth? What can they do to you if you write the truth?"


(c)1998 by Hearst Communications, Inc. Printed in the USA.

Copyright � 1997-2004 by the Hearst Corporation.


Find this article at: /pubs/Esquire/1998/09/01/170764
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:38 PM
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130. "Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?"


Evidence of the hobnailed boot stamping on the face of humanity, forever, from your article above:

Despite Ceppos's initial defense of the series, the Mercury News seemed to choke on these attacks, and Webb could sense a sea change, But he kept on working, building a a bigger base of facts, following its implications deeper into the government. When the Mercury News forced him to choose between a $600,000 movie offer and book deals and staying on the story, Webb picked the story. He kept discovering people who had flown suitcases full of money to Miami from dope sales for the contras. He documented Blandon's contra dope sales from '82 through '86. Gary Webb was on a tear; he was going to advance the story. Almost none of this was published by the Mercury News; the paper grudgingly ran (and buried) one last story on New Year's Eve 1996.

The paper had printed the story of the decade, the one with Pulitzer prize written all over it, and now was unmistakably backing off it. Webb entered a kind of Orwellian world where no one said anything, but there was this thing in the air. The Mercury News assigned one of its own reporters to review the series, using the stories of the L.A. Times, The New York Times, and The Washington Post as the benchmark for what was fact.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:26 PM
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129. Those are some hellacious memos!
There it is, in black and white! "Non-employees" of CIA don't have to be reported when observed violating federal drug laws.

"As you can see, alleged violations of Title 21 by non-employees are not required by the procedures to be reported."

Lots of "fine" fealings between CIA and DEA. You betcha.

From your outstanding post, I'd bet you've heard of John Hull. For readers new to the subject:

The CIA and Cocaine: Truth and Disinformation

Who has the airplanes?


EXCERPT...

How Drug Smugglers Were Recruited

In the early summer of 1984, two contra representatives met with George Morales, a big-time Colombian trafficker who was then under indictment in the U.S. They met at the Miami home of a wealthy Nicaraguan exile. The contra representatives were Octaviano César and Adolfo "Popo" Chamorro.

A San Francisco Chronicle article reports: "Chamorro and César said they asked a CIA official whether they could accept the offer of airplanes and cash from the drug dealer, Morales. `I called our contact at the CIA,' Chamorro said recently. `The truth is, we were still getting some CIA money under the table. They said he (Morales) was fine.' " Journalist Leslie Cockburn subsequently corroborated César's CIA status from no less than eight sources, including high-level administration officials in Washington.<4>

Morales went on to organize numerous guns-for-drugs flights between the United States and Central America.<5> Morales told the Christic Institute that he donated approximately $5 million in drug money to the contras in 1984 and 1985. Morales said that the payment was part of a deal with three contra leaders a few months after his indictment on drug charges: they would `take care' of his legal problem in return for financial and logistical support. Morales later testified before the Kerry Subcommittee that his pilots flew weapons to contra bases and returning to the United States with drug cargoes. At a federal trial in April 1990, Colombian drug pilot Ernesto Carrasco testified that he saw Morales pay more than $1 million in drug profits to contra leader Adolfo "Popo" Chamorro at a Florida restaurant in 1985.<6>

Morales claims that the CIA opened up an airstrip in Costa Rica, on the 1,500-acre ranch of the American John Hull, and that his pilots flew 20 shipments of weapons into Costa Rica in 1984 and 1985, and smuggled thousands of kilos of cocaine on the return flights into the United States. This was confirmed by Gary Betzner, a pilot for Morales, who testified he flew cocaine from Costa Rica to Lakeland, Florida.<7, 1> "I smuggled my share of illegal substance," said Betzner, "but I also smuggled my share of weapons in exchange, with the full knowledge and assistance of both the DEA and the CIA." (Newsweek, January 26, 1986)

The Kerry Subcommittee described John Hull as "a liaison between the contras and the United States government." And subcommittee testimony said that, on at least two occasions, Hull was present while bags of cocaine were transferred to the planes.

CONTINUED...

http://rwor.org/a/firstvol/883/ciab.htm

Most Imporant: A hearty welcome to DU, major_rager! Truly appreciate the major help!
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:38 AM
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117. I've contacted all my sources about this...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 05:38 AM by RBHam
this story actually has legs....

But it all depends on whether the mainstream media can be forced to cover this...

And that's OUR job peopele!

I've done my part...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:51 PM
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131. Evidence Begins To Indicate Gary Webb Was Murdered
From Jones and Watson of Prison Planet:

Evidence Begins To Indicate Gary Webb Was Murdered

Webb Spoke Of Death Threats, 'Government People' Around His Home


Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | December 14 2004

Credible sources who were close to Gary Webb have stated that he was receiving death threats, being regularly followed, and that he was concerned about strange individuals who were seen on multiple occasions breaking into and leaving his house before his apparent 'suicide' on Friday morning.

Webb, a Pullitzer prize winning journalist, exposed CIA drug trafficking operations in a series of books and reports for the San Jose Mercury News. He was found dead on Friday morning in what the police said was an apparent suicide.

Webb's 1996 series in the Mercury News alleged that Nicaraguan drug traffickers had sold tons of crack cocaine in Los Angeles and funneled millions of dollars in profits to the CIA-supported Nicaraguan Contras during the 1980s.

Today's Alex Jones Show, aired on the GCN radio network featured interviews with Chico Brown and Cele Castillo. Castillo is author of "Powder Burns", Cocaine, Contras & The Drug Connection. A retired DEA agent, Castillo personally witnessed CIA drug smuggling operations. Chico Brown, was former business parter and co-defendent with to 'Freeway' Ricky Ross, the biggest drug dealer on the west coast for the CIA.

SNIP...

Former DEA agent Cele Castillo concurs that Webb was murdered and that in such a 'revenge hit' situation it was common in his experience that the murderers would have likely talked to Webb at length about how and why they were about to kill him.

CONTINUED...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/141204webbmurdered.htm

The BFEE is worse than anything the vilest turd on Tony Soprano's crew has done. Spread the Truth and there once again will be Justice in the United States of America.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:03 AM
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118. Porter Goss and the coverup of CIA drug trafficking
Someone asked why this might be happening now . . .

http://www.wethepeople.la/levine1.htm

If anyone watched the CNN show you cannot have helped but notice the snickering on the part of Congressional chairman Porter Goss (an ex CIA officer), as congresswoman Maxine Waters spoke. Now here's the reason why: Sources of mine, who speak to me from inside this veil of secrecy out of conscience and because I am cheaper and more reliable than a psychiatrist, have already told me the following:

1. There is secret communication between CIA and members of the Congressional staff-one must keep in mind that Porter Goss, the chairman, is an ex CIA official- indicating that the whole hearing is just a smoke and mirror show so that the American people-particularly the Black community- can "blow off some steam" without doing any damage to CIA. The CIA has been assured that nothing real will be done, other than some embarrassing questions being asked.

2. That the hearings will result in the CIA receiving even a larger budget than the current $26 billion that they admit to. One of the most distressing things for me, a 25 year veteran of this business, to listen to was when Congresswoman Waters said that the hearings were not about CIA officers being indicted and going to jail. "That is not going to happen," she said. Almost in the same breath she spoke of a recent case in Miami wherein a Venezuelan National Guard general was caught by Customs agents smuggling more than a ton of cocaine into the US. Despite named CIA officers being involved in the plot, as Congresswoman Waters stated, the Justice Department will not tell her anything about the case because of "secrecy laws." No wonder chairman Goss was snickering. She could not have played more
neatly into CIA hands than to surrender before the battle was engaged.

See also Michael Ruppert at http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/witness_list.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:00 AM
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132. Operation 40 Porter is a gold-plated turd of the BFEE
Thank you very much for remembering this guy's action on the helping cover up CIA involvment in the nation's drug epidemic. I had no idea Goss snickered and the other things at that moment when confronted with evidence of criminality. Well, good people don't find it funny to consider that the nation's "War on Drugs" was just another money-making off-the-shelf operation. Do you wonder who made all those billions, no -- trillions -- in the illegal drug trade? And Porter made that "staff" his new top crew at CIA, minus the convicted shoplifter that is.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:31 AM
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120. DemocracyNow: Gary Webb linking CIA to cocaine trafficking in Los Angeles

DemocracyNow!
Monday, December 13th, 2004
Investigative Reporter Gary Webb Who Linked CIA to Crack Sales Found Dead of Apparent Suicide
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/13/1457240
(video, audio, transcript)

Gary Webb, a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter who wrote a series of stories linking the CIA to crack cocaine trafficking in Los Angeles, is dead at age 49. We hear an 1998 interview with Gary Webb on Democracy Now! and we speak with his colleague, veteran investigative journalist Robert Parry.

Webb was found Friday morning at his home in Sacramento County, dead of an apparent suicide. Moving-company workers called authorities after discovering a note posted on his front door that read, "Please do not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance." Webb died of a gunshot wound to the head, according to the Sacramento County coroner's office. He is survived by two sons and a daughter.

<more>

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:16 AM
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133. Where the BFEE fits in:
WRITTEN STATEMENT OF CELERINO CASTILLO III., (D.E.A. RETIRED) FOR THE HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE

EXCERPT...

Facts of my investigation on CIA-Contras drug trafficking in El Salvador:

The key to understanding the "crack cocaine" epidemic, which exploded on our streets in 1984, lies in understanding the effect of congressional oversight on covert operations. In this case the Boland amendment(s) of the era, while intending to restrict covert operations as intended by the will of the People, only served to encourage C.I.A., the military and elements of the national intelligence community to completely bypass the Congress and the Constitution in an eager and often used covert policy of funding prohibited operations with drug money.

As my friend and colleague Michael Ruppert has pointed out through his own experience in the 1970s, CIA has often bypassed congressional intent by resorting to the drug trade (Vietnam, Laos, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc).

When the Boland Amendment(s) cut the Contras off from a continued U.S. government subsidy, George Bush, his national security adviser Don Gregg, and Ollie North, turned to certain foreign governments, and to private contributions, to replace government dollars. Criminal sources of contributions were not excluded. By the end of 1981, through a series of Executive Orders and National Security Decision Directives, many of which have been declassified, Vice President Bush was placed in charge of all Reagan administration intelligence operations. All of the covert operations carried out by officers of the CIA, the Pentagon, and every other federal agency, along with a rogue army of former intelligence operatives and foreign agents, were commanded by George Bush. Gary Webb (San Jose Mercury News) acknowledged, that he simply had not traced the command structure over the Contras up into the White House, although he had gotten some indications that the operation was not just CIA.

On Dec. 01, 1981, President Ronald Reagan signed a secret order authorizing the CIA to spend $19.9 million for covert military aid to the recently formed Contras--- hardly enough money to launch a serious military operation against the Cuban and Soviet-backed Sandinista regime.

In August 1982, George Bush hired Donald P. Gregg as his principal adviser for national security affairs. In late 1984, Gregg introduced Oliver North to Felix Rodriguez, (a retired CIA agent) who had already been working in Central America for over a year under Bush's direction. Gregg personally introduced Rodriguez to Bush on Jan. 22, 1985. Two days after his January 1985 meeting, Rodriguez went to El Salvador and made arrangements to set up his base of operations at Ilopango air base. On Nov. 01, 1984, the FBI arrested Rodriguez's partner, Gerard Latchinian and convicted him of smuggling $10.3 million in cocaine into the U.S.

CONTINUED...

http://www.american-buddha.com/cia.writ.state.htm

PS: DemocracyNow! becomes more important every day. Thanks for the reminder and links, rman! I'm there.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:38 AM
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121. David Corn
Even worse, Solomon's compatriot in the "Get Ruppert" campaign of the foundation-funded liberal "alternative" media, David Corn, has a long history in trying to scuttle investigations of this nature -- he lept to the defense of the Agency after Gary Webb's 1996 expose on CIA/crack in the San Jose Mercury News. Corn is also the author of a sanitized biography about CIA dirty trickster Ted Shackley called "Blond Ghost," which sidestepped the allegations about Shackley's involvement in the heroin trade during the Vietnam War. Even the New York Times had to apologize to Allen Ginsberg many years ago for calling him nuts for making the CIA-heroin allegation - and the CIA 1998 inspector general report essentially confirmed that Gary Webb had been correct. The REAL scandal is why these "leftists" came to the defense of the Bush administration after Ruppert and other journalists exposed blatant holes in the official story of 9-11. THAT is the true controversy.
http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:BY-vuY6LyZYJ:www.911review.org/Wget/www.oilempire.us/denial.html+%22Gary+Webb%22+Blackwater&hl=en
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:50 PM
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123. David Corn is a turd.
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 03:05 PM by Octafish
Thanks, seemslikeadream. The guy sanitizes the "Bush Lies" in order to enable more of the same. I dunno why, but I've got an idea or two.

Corn really sets a new low for himself in his obituary of Gary Webb. Major errors in reporting is how he made out "Dark Alliance." What a schmuck, I love how he tries to distance himself from those who piled-on Webb when the original series appeared.


Gary Webb is Dead

By David Corn
The Nation

EXCERPT...

Webb's tale is a sad one. He was on to something but botched part of how he handled it. He then was blasted and ostracized. He was wrong on some important details but he was, in a way, closer to the truth than many of his establishment media critics who neglected the story of the real CIA-contra-cocaine connection. In 1998, a CIA inspector general's report acknowledged that the CIA had indeed worked with suspected drugrunners while supporting the contras. A Senator named John Kerry had investigated these links years earlier, and the media had mostly ignored his findings. After Webb published his articles, the media spent more time crushing Webb than pursuing the full story. It is only because of Webb's work--as flawed as it was--that the CIA IG inquiry happened. So, then, it is only because of Webb that US citizens have confirmation from the CIA that it partnered up with suspected drug traffickers in the just-say-no years and that the Reagan Administration, consumed with a desire to overthrow the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, allied itself with drug thugs.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=2066



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