Party Affilation...I'm curious?

[serryjw]

Many people are stating that they are gone from the democratic party, especially if they choose a centrist as DNC chair.....Why is everyone saying back to the Green Party instead of Socialist party.....Neither has a chance of winning in my lifetime...This is not flame. I'm honestly curious.

[clydefrand]

1. I'm a Democrat! Plain and simple and I will stay that way

unless I find a mighty good repug. But I don't think I'll need to hold my breathe waiting. However, I will say Chuck Hagle is the most sensible one I've heard on tv for a long time. I used to like McCain until he started lapping at Bush's feet...butt...and I even voted for him in the primary because I figured he'd be better than Bush if Gore lost.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Chuck Hagel is good on foreign policy...

But I think that's about it.

[OnionPatch]

39. He is also an election thief

n/t

[blondeatlast]

2. Strong left Democratic and I can even deal with a centrist DNC chair--

as long as he/she is efficient, gives a good dogdamn about the base, and is willing to push at the local/state level.

I think many DUers are a bit confused as to the chairman's role, but I have no qualms about an effective moderate chair.

It would take an enormous negative effort for me to leave the party, I'm a 4th gen Dem.

[WindRavenX]

3. Still a Democrat

I want to reform the party rather than leave it.

[JohnKleeb]

4. you got that right

[Robbien]

5. I left the Democratic party back in 1994 when it was obvious

to me the DLC was a corporate whore and was in control of the Democratic party.

Since then I do not have a party affiliation.

[Up2Late]

6. I'm a "Yellow Dog" Democrat

If you don't know the story behind that, just ask.

I really think it's just a sign of the level of anger and confusion, and the state of society, the Instant gratification most of these people have come to expect these days. I bet most who are saying this are 30 or less. B-)

:think:Just think, 25 years ago (hell, 15years ago) if your wrote a letter or note to someone, the soonest you would get a reply would be 3 days later when the mail arrived.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

8. Democrat for as long as I'm breathing (wanted to write 'for life' but

didn't want to confuse anyone by saying 'for life' (in terms of my belief in a woman's right to choose).

[elshiva]

14. What's a Yellow Dog? Please tell.

[Up2Late]

29. A "Yellow Dog" Democrat is...

one that, even if the Democrats but a Yellow Dog on the ballot to run against the Republican candidate, they would still vote for the Yellow Dog rather than vote for the Republican.:smoke:

Their is also the "Blue Dog" Coalition in the U.S. House, who are Fiscally conservative Democratic Congress Men and Women. B-)

[Redleg]

7. I am a liberal but pragmatic Democrat.

I would like to see the Dem party move a bit to the left but I am realistic enough to know that may alienate some moderate dems. I believe we have to focus on economic populism to get us to where we need to be.

[NV Whino]

9. I'm still a democrat until all the votes have been counted

and I see how the investigation into the election fraud goes, and who participates. Then I'll see. Probably move to Independent, which will allow me to vote dem or repub in the primary elections. I'm extremely disappointed in the Democratic Party They don't presently represent my beliefs and probably never will at the rate they are going. I think finally there are enough disgruntled voters to form a new viable party. I'm willing to work for that. It won't happen next year or even by 2006, but unless the dems perk up in the next week or so, the party is dead... or might as well be.

[njdemocrat106]

10. I will always be a Democrat

I wouldn't mind having a centrist chair the party at all. Compared to the some of you guys, I probably am a centrist (though definitely leaning left). :smoke:

[xequals]

11. moderate independent

I used to be a liberal, but my views have changed. I'm a libertarian.

Don't have a party now. I'm independent but will only vote third party if the major party candidate is completely unacceptable.

Basically I vote for the Republican (real name: Moderate Fascist Theocrats) or the Democrat (real name: Moderate Feminist Socialists) who sounds less authoritarian. One day the people will rise up against the liberal/conservative authoritarians, and when that day comes I will be ready to support such a strong libertarian movement. Until then, my vote is best spent within the two party duopoly, where I can at least hope to move them both in a more libertarian direction.

[elshiva]

13. I'm a Pro-gay Deaniac Kucinich Mikulskite Jewish-Episcopal....

Feminist LibRul Democrat and I'm proud. I'll never leave the Democratic party, the party that respects my intelligence and rights as a woman and supports gay rights.
God preserve us from the DLC, though.

[Finding Rawls]

15. Nozick Libertarian? n/t

[xequals]

24. Somewhat, but consider myself more of a pragmatist

As far as libertarian thinkers/philsophers go, I would say that Thomas Jefferson is probably the most important of all. He dared to believe in rationality and science over superstion, and in the power of the individual vs the state -- it is still a revolutionary idea, even today (especially today).

I'm a moderate libertarian because I don't think libertarianism in it's pure form results in more liberty, but less or none (feudalism). But liberty should always be the goal. The government should start out with libertarianism and intervene only to save libertarianism from itself, i.e. where it fails, for example.. to enforce the breakup of a monopoly or to send in the national guard to protect civil rights. Both may seem like authoriarian moves on the surface - but are done to protect libertarianism from itself.

I also understand the needs of the community, that we're not just a collection of individuals, but also act as a group and have needs as a group. Again, only the most libertarian, pro-individual, competitive, pro-growth solution should be taken to rectify this need. I abhor resdistrubtionism or any policy that limits the growth of the individual - either financially or socially. I disagree fundamentally with the liberal/socialistic vision a perfectly equal, static distribution, classless society. Libertarians don't strive for a classless society, but for a society of equal rights, a society with fair rules resulting in constantly changing winners and losers -- a dynamic distribution. Class is an outcome, and libertarians aren't concerned with the outcome, but with fairness of the game, with the liberty of the individual players.

[Historic NY]

12. old school Democrat.......I tend to balance towards the middle.

In my personal opinion Democrats try to be the answer for every issue or person and thats does not work. We pander left, we pander right; that is whats wrong. I sometimes think we hijacked ourselves.

We need to narrow our scope and generally concentrate on a few issues rather than everything out there. Our baggage car is full, rather then dumping people, we must go with what works now and work towards our other issues when we can.

[Nordic]

16. I want a new party headed by Howard Dean

We should just make a new party and do an end run around this dead-in-the-water Democratic Party.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

If Howard Dean doesn't take over the Dem party, I'm done with it forever. I may go Green, but I'm not sure yet.

[tedzbear]

28. Me too.

How about a Dean/Kucinich ticket???

[Hippo_Tron]

18. Democratic wing of the Democratic party

Right out of the mouth of Paul Wellstone. It is people like him, Russ Feingold, Barbara Boxer, Dick Durbin, Dennis Kucinich, and Jon Corzine that I remain loyal to the democratic party.

[jdots]

19. i am a ultra progressive/left wing/liberal

who votes for the democrats because there are some fine ones and some crappy ones.Republiturds are are ultra shitty to evil ultra shitty.As far as i'm concerned ( who cares) any body on the fence should start reading and turn off that t.v..

[Cats Against Frist]

20. I'll always VOTE Democrat as long as there is a GOP to defeat

UNLESS on the off-chance that someone so horrible heads up the GOP that voting them in would cause the system to collapse in a forseeable near-future -- and it would have to be worse than even Bushler.

Affiliation -- I am a libertarian -- a middle-of-the-road libertarian and a cultural libertine. I guess you'd say that I'm far left, but I just don't believe government is the best way to meet all the goals.

[msgadget]

21. Interesting,

I hope you get your group so I can read more about a smaller government from a perspective different from the stump speech spiel.

[Cats Against Frist]

22. Whose stump speech?

If you're talking about the GOP -- they're lying. They're not for smaller anything -- and I am soooooooooooo not a right-winger. Anything you want to know -- just ask. And post in the thread if you want to participate in the group, too. It's truly a fascinating subject.

[msgadget]

23. Well, I figured that,

:crazy: which was why I was asking an honest person with no agenda. I'm off to post in the thread.

[Yuugal]

25. true blue

At 39, I've always voted straight dem unless the same candidate was on the right-to-life ticket.(maybe 3 times in 21 yrs of voting) I am starting to question my deeply held loyalty to the party though. I just don't get the feeling they give a crap about what the rank and file people think anymore. Living in NY means I'll never have any say over who gets the nod in the primaries. By the time it gets around to us its always over. That sux.

Lately I've been hearing Hillary talk for 08. She reminds me of everything I hate about this party. She couldn't win in her home state so she came to my state to carpetbag one of our seats which I would have rather seen occupied by Mark Green or Elliot Spitzer. We didn't ask her to come, she was stuffed down our throats by the party hacks and we had to suck it up and vote for her. Now we are stuck with her republican-lite ass for as long as she wants the seat. That sux.

My dad was union and so am I. The first death blow for unions in this country came with the PATCO strike when Ronnie Raygun got in. We had a democratic congress and they could have passed anything they wanted to help these poor guys and the party let them down big time. By the time the NAFTA/Free Trade crap came around unions were already reeling and a shadow of their former selves. Again the party rolled over and played dead. Nowadays we have laws actually PROMOTING off-shoring by giving tax breaks for companies who engage in this treasonous practice. The dem party still slumbers away dreaming of past glories while the reality that they are a minority party who lost power by selling out their constituents escapes them. That sux.

All those things make me mad at my party, but what really gives me the red-ass is this new insane assumption many dems are making that we have to be more corporate in our philosophies. Its been going on for 20 years in this party, the wanton boot-licking and ass-kissing done to corporate interests, but after Kerry's loss the pace has been stepped up to a fever pitch. Since the dem party leadership can't seem to understand that we already have a corporate party(the repugs) and that we are never going to do it better than they do when it comes to licking corporate nutsack, why am I even bothering to vote dem? Its obvious to me that the dem leadership doesn't want to hear what we have to say.

They call us kooks and "people who crawl out from under rocks".(DLC on c-span friday) They call the people I admire, people like Janeane Garofalo and M Moore, enemies of the party while at the same time running symposiums on how we need to act more religious and dress like republicans. The biggest insult of all is that we gave them more money than Bush had to spend and they had 4 yrs of Bush's horrible record to run against and they still couldn't make a good case to the American people. They failed us and instead of resigning they are attacking elements of the party and the things it has always stood for so they can save their jobs. The dem leadership sux and if it isn't changed I might as well vote green.

Sorry for the long post but I think you hit a nerve. My whole adult life I've been waiting for the dems to STAND UP AND SHOUT! They still don't seem to have a clue. Perhaps if enough of us don't vote or vote green, they will finally hear us. If nothing changes by 06 thats what I'm going to do.

[sandnsea]

26. Initially, I thought of myself as a Constitutionalist

Then I saw the whackjobs running the Constitutionalist Party and said "WOW!!! So much for being a Constitutionalist". I really can't even understand how this party's hijacked the party affiliation of "Constitutionalist". Actually, I always thought their should be the "Founding Party"... a party for people with the same revolutionary and liberal values as our founding fathers.

[tedzbear]

27. I recently re-registered Green Party.

Maybe the Green Party and the other progressive parties can merge for more clout. Even better, Kucinich or Dean could defect and run on the Green ticket.

Even if the Greens don't yet have clout, I like their platform much more than the current Repug baiting Democratic one.

:bounce: Green

[Undercover Owl]

31. I've been Green for a few years now

-yet, I vote for democrats.

Democrats are the bigger-sized folks wearing GAP & Nordstom clothes. They drive subarus--maybe a subaru SUV!

Greens, I don't know...we get the hand-me-down GAP clothes.

[tedzbear]

36. Yes... I shop at Out of the Closet Thrift stores.

eom

[donheld]

30. I'm a registered Democrat

:dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem:

[Lilith Velkor]

32. none

Switched to Democrat to vote for Kucinich in the primaries, then switched back to unaffiliated.

[shayes51]

33. Always and forever a Democrat!

[NoPasaran]

34. I am a Texas Dean Democrat

The Greens can sing Kumbayah until the cows come home.

[Zynx]

35. I will NEVER vote for the Greens.

I would not vote for them under any circumstances. I do not want those people running this country anymore than I want the religious right running this country.

I will vote Democratic until this current batch of radical right-wingers has been defeated. After that point, I may be able to vote for Republicans again.

[Blue_In_AK]

37. Democrat

[Guarionex]

38. Green Party most of the time...Democrat when I have to

but I'm much more radical...I'm anti-capitalist...though not convinced what brand of capitalism to adopt...definitly not communist...that didn't work..but I'm torn between socialism and anarchism..

[OnionPatch]

40. I never thought I would leave the Democratic party

I am 45 years old and never voted for a Republican in my life. I never thought I would leave the Dems. But the last few months have left me quite bitter against the leaders. Why did they allow this election theft? They knew it was going to happen. Why are they not screaming bloody murder about all the horrid things the GOP is doing? Why are they not sticking up more for the working people?

The Greens seem to suit me more and more these days and I decided last week that if the DNC picks another "centrist" Dem to head them up, I'm out.

However, if they were to choose Howard Dean (or someone like him) I may have a glimmer of hope left for their future and stick with them.

It's very sad. Very sad. I never thought I would see the day.

[More Than A Feeling]

41. left leaning libertarian

according to the political compass. Pope John Paul II economically, the Dalai Lama socially. Its a cool place to be.

Party-wise, I am bound to the democrats as long as there is the radical right to defeat, but thirty years ago I might have been a Rockefeller Republican.

Depends on the day I guess, sometimes I feel old school conservative, others very liberal.

[FuzzySlippers]

42. A registered Democrat, but I voted for Nader in'96 and 2000

because I was repelled by the center-right drift of the party. The only other time I didn't vote for the Dem candidate was when Adlai Stevenson III was running for governor of Illinois in '86. He was such an appallingly bad candidate that I voted for the Socialist-Labor candidate instead.