The Passion of the Christ not nominated for Golden Globe

[davidinalameda]

boo freaking hoo


...Catholic League president William Donohue is not surprised that Hollywood has apparently once again snubbed the producer-director of The Passion of the Christ. Mel Gibson's film was one of 49 deemed eligible for a foreign-language Golden Globe, but was not to be found among the nominees on which the Hollywood Foreign Press Association ultimately voted yesterday. Donohue calls The Passion "the most significant blockbuster movie of the year," but he says Gibson's box office success failed to make the cut for a Golden Globe "because his film promotes Christianity and the Hollywood crowd will have none of it. The only movies they like to make about Christianity these days are ones that demean it." On the other hand, Donohue points out one film that did make the cut -- The Motorcycle Diaries, a film that, according to one New York Times critic, portrays Cuban communist Che Guevara "as a quasi-holy figure." The Catholic League spokesman says the movie industry is sending an unmistakable message, that "there is no room for Jesus in Hollywood's inn, but there is plenty of room for communist thugs portrayed in a Christ-like manner."

[merh]

1. Not surprising, I read the book and I like its ending much better

than the movie! The book doesn't leave you so hurt or angry, but gives a sense of hope.

[Shakespeare]

6. WONDERFUL post.

Thanks for that. ;-)

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. KICK

I always said that Mel Gibson's version should have been called the Greatest Story Never Told.

[merh]

10. You are welcome!

O8)

[NVMojo]

2. GOOD!

[noonwitch]

3. Now all the fundies are going to cry "Discrimination"

"First they wouldn't give "The Passion" any awards and now they're trying to steal Christmas!" Crybabies.

I didn't see "The Passion". If it comes on HBO, I'll watch it out of curiousity, but until then, I can't really comment on whether it is indeed an award-worthy movie. All I know is plenty of good movies I've liked over the years have won zero awards. Life is like that.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. it will be listed as a "foreign language film" category in the Oscars

[satya]

5. The fundies should be happy! Who wants a stinkin' liberal elite award?n/t

[OneBlueSky]

8. the Golden Globes generally don't nominate snuff flicks . . . n/t

.

[RPM]

9. shame...

... really...

:eyes:

[BrklynLiberal]

11. All part of the "seige on Christmas": that O'Leily is carrying on about.

FOX hypes stories to claim "Christmas Under Siege"

FOX News is aggressively hyping several small controversies involving public holiday displays that don't explicitly mention Christmas in order to depict a widespread and sinister "attack on Christmas" by "secular Progressives." (Anyone care to take a wild guess to whom they are REALLY referring when they use a term like "secular progressives" ?") Led by hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, FOX News anchors have returned continually to several minor stories whose theme is the purported marginalization or persecution of Christians. A closer examination of each of these stories reveals that they hardly constitute an anti-Christmas trend.

Beginning on December 3, O'Reilly began a recurring segment on The O'Reilly Factor called "Christmas Under Siege." O'Reilly's December 7 "Talking Points Memo" included a litany of anecdotes that appear to show an epidemic of anti-Christmas fervor sweeping the nation:

O'REILLY: All over the country, Christmas is taking flak. In Denver this past weekend, no religious floats were permitted in the holiday parade there. In New York City, Mayor Bloomberg unveiled the "holiday tree," and no Christian Christmas symbols are allowed in the public schools. Federated Department Stores -- that's Macy's -- have done away with the Christmas greeting "Merry Christmas."

Moments later, O'Reilly revealed that this "siege" on Christmas is part of a sinister campaign by "secular progressives" to advance a radical agenda:

O'REILLY: Secular progressives realize that America as it is now will never approve of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, euthanasia, legalized drugs, income redistribution through taxation, and many other progressive visions because of religious opposition.

But if the secularists can destroy religion in the public arena, the brave new progressive world is a possibility. That's what happened in Canada.

Though O'Reilly rarely names these "secular progressives," he has made it clear that Democrats are the target of his attacks. On December 8, he told Representative Brad Carson (D-OK), who recently lost his bid for U.S. Senate in Oklahoma, that "progressive secularists have ruined the Democratic Party." On the December 7 broadcast of the nationally syndicated Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly, he declared that "the people at The New York Times, the L.A. Times -- the far left wing of the Democratic Party -- they hate the fact that 82 percent of Americans are Christian." On his December 9 radio show, O'Reilly told a caller: "Remember, more than 90 percent of American homes celebrate Christmas. But, the small minority that is trying to impose its will on the majority is so vicious, so dishonest -- and has to be dealt with."

In fact, the evidence of any concerted "attack on Christmas" disintegrates when one examines the alleged examples.

Denver's "Parade of Lights"

While it's true that Denver's annual "Parade of Lights," held December 3-4, chose not to include the Faith Bible Church's religious float, the Downtown Denver Partnership, the private group that organized the parade, explained that because the small size of the parade forces it to turn down many floats each year, including a religious float would appear to be an act of religious favoritism. The Denver Post explained in a December 4 editorial:

"We have a policy designed to not put us in position to make value judgments which religion gets in," says Jim Basey, president of the partnership.

Unlike other parades, such as Denver's St. Patrick's Day parade that stretches on for hours with dozens of floats and various groups just marching along, the Parade of Lights is limited in size and scope. It only lasts an hour, with elaborate floats that are often re-used from year to year. Organizers turn down many groups each year simply because there isn't time or room for everyone.

O'Reilly debuted the "Christmas Under Siege" series on December 3 with a segment on the Denver parade. In a teaser for the show that aired on FOX throughout the day, O'Reilly asked, "Is the city of Denver attacking -- I mean attacking -- Christmas?" During the show, when a guest defended the partnership's decision by explaining that the parade wasn't meant to honor any particular holiday but, O'Reilly insisted, "It's the Christmas holiday. That's the holiday!" Of course, other religions have December holidays as well.

Bloomberg and New York's "holiday tree"

On his December 6 radio program, O'Reilly was even more explicit in singling out Bloomberg for his choice of words: "Today, New York City, the mayor, Bloomberg, lit a tree but he will not call it a Christmas tree. It's a 'holiday tree.' 'Holiday tree.' The mayor of New York City will not call it a Christmas tree -- all right?"

But while Bloomberg apparently did refer to the tree at Rockefeller Center as a "holiday tree" at the lighting ceremony on December 6, his choice of words is hardly indicative of a trend, as O'Reilly suggested. A press release promoting the ceremony by Swarovski, the crystal company responsible for the 550-pound, 10-foot-wide crystal star atop the tree, touted "the 72nd Annual Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree"; the Associated Press story on the ceremony similarly referred to "the center's famed Christmas tree"; and a website devoted to the tree by New York's local NBC affiliate, WNBC (which includes the live "tree cam"), is prominently titled "Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree."

Christian symbols in New York schools

New York City public school policy does not specifically ban Christian symbols. According to an article in the December 11, 2002, New York Times, "he policy permits what it calls secular holiday decorations, including 'Christmas trees, menorahs and the star and crescent,' according to a memorandum that the schools chancellor's general counsel distributed a year ago. If one symbol is displayed, so should those of other 'beliefs or customs,' it said." The Times reported that the school board is basing its policy on a 1989 Supreme Court case: "In a 1989 decision involving displays in Pittsburgh, the Supreme Court ruled that a Nativity scene at the Allegheny County, Pa., courthouse was unconstitutional because it lacked secular symbols of the Christmas season, making it seem as if the county endorsed the religious message. But it said an 18-foot-tall menorah on the steps of City Hall was acceptable because it was coupled with a 45-foot-tall Christmas tree. The ruling essentially said context had to be considered in each case."

Federated Department Stores and "Merry Christmas"

While Federated Department Stores Inc. has apparently replaced "Merry Christmas" displays with "Happy Holidays" in many of its stores, this development received scant attention before FOX News began hyping the so-called "Committee to Save Merry Christmas," which was apparently the first to complain about holiday displays at Macy's and Bloomingdale's, which Federated owns. O'Reilly devoted an entire segment to the story on the December 1 O'Reilly Factor in which he explained: "I understand this attack on Christmas. We do a lot of reporting on it."

But that "committee" appears to consist of little more than a single individual, Manuel Zammarano, and his website. Moreover, the store allows individual stores to make their own decisions, according to its statement, as Media Matters for America noted when O'Reilly devoted a segment to the story on the December 1 edition of The O'Reilly Factor. Anchor Chris Wallace also scoffed at Federated on the December 5 edition of FOX Broadcasting Company's FOX News Sunday, suggesting that Macy's is bowing to "political correctness":

Macy's, the department store featured in the Christmas movie Miracle on 34th Street, denies it's being politically correct in its advertising by using "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." But perhaps there's a hint of the company's thinking in a statement on the corporate Web page, quote: "These expressions of goodwill are more reflective of the multicultural society in which we live." How about this: Bah, humbug! (SO, it would seem it has come to this: If one does not celebrate the holiday..in the manner O'Reilly and FOX deem appropriate, you are committing a crime!!)

[Bridget Burke]

15. Note on Faith Bible Chapel....

The Denver church complained it was not allowed in a parade because they wanted to make their float religious. You've explained the real reasons the float was excluded.

Surely, such a fine group is telling the True Christmas Story on their own premises! Not quite. This year's musical extravaganza is "Old Mister Scrooge"--nary a sight of Jesus, Mary & Joseph. A well-done Nativity scene can be quite touching, but the "religious" folk at Faith Bible can't be bothered.

www.rmbi.org/index.html

Compliments on your survey of the "Christmas Under Attack" movement.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. Vatican urging UN to recognize CHRISTIANOPHOBIA

Vatican presses the UN to recognise 'Christianophobia'
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent


The Vatican is pressing the United Nations to recognise "Christianophobia" as an evil equal to that of anti-Semitism or "Islamophobia".

Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo, the Vatican's foreign minister, said anti-Christian feeling had increased, exacerbated by the war on terrorism.

He said Christianity was often mistakenly seen as being inextricably linked with Western political policy, and had suffered as a result in the backlash against the West.

His comments, at a conference in Rome, were primarily aimed at Middle Eastern countries such as Iraq, where insurgents have bombed a number of churches.

But he also echoed Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger(SEE LINK BELOW FOR MORE ABOUT RATZINGER!!!!), a leading contender to be the next Pope, who said last month that parts of Europe were so now secular that Christianity was being pushed into the margins.

Archbishop Lajolo disclosed that Vatican diplomats were discreetly attempting to persuade the UN and other bodies to recognise the previously almost unheard of term "Christianophobia".

"It should be recognised that the war on terrorism, even though necessary, had as one of its side-effects the spread of 'Christianophobia' in vast areas of the globe," he told the conference. The UN General Assembly in New York is to debate the issue later this month.

Speaking to reporters after his speech, the archbishop said anti-Christian and anti-Catholic sentiments were not only to be found in Muslim countries. Hostility existed in states where Church-sponsored schools or charities were perceived as thinly-veiled attempts at proselytism.

The Vatican is pressing its case despite failing to persuade the European Union to include a reference to the continent's Christian heritage in its new constitution. (gee, wonder why they are accused of proselytising?)

The Vatican campaign has provoked a mixed reaction, with some Christian human rights activists arguing that it could prove counter-productive.

Alexandra Aula of Franciscans International, a Catholic pressure group based in Geneva, said: "Obviously we have seen many countries where Christian minorities are in danger, but we don't think this is the appropriate way to really ensure protection.

"What we fear is that this is the way to start eroding universal human rights. You will then have Sikhs and Buddhists and all the others coming and claiming rights. Where does it end?"

But Vatican officials said privately that they could not stand aside while Judaism and Islam got special attention at the UN. The organisation demands regular reports from member countries on issues officially recognised as international concerns.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26491-2004Nov4.html

[mattclearing]

13. Good. One of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Give me Battlefield Earth anyday.

[dansolo]

14. I don't recall these types of people complaining

When "Do The Right Thing" wasn't nominated for Best picture.

[merh]

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