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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:46 PM
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Bush Administration Documents on Secrecy Policy (Federation of American
Scientists)
This IS the most secretive administration ever-it's executive omerta imo.
The FAS has some very interesting links on this.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/bush/index.html

I think Bush's secrecy is to cover-up treason and crimes of the neo-cons-like PNAC.
What do you think about the "hush-hush" of BFEE?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:19 PM
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1. There are traitors at work in this administration as well as war criminals
They use "national security" to hide their crimes.
They sure use The Executive Branch for a lot of it.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:28 PM
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2. preachin to the choir
Agree 100% that they are criminals using secrecy to veil crime, and
hide from any accountability for their incompetence in office.

Heck, what was refreshing about the kerry/bush debates, for myself,
was watching for the first time in 4 years, bush answer for his
criminal behaviour under light questioning. Its a bummer that was
the last time the public will ever hear him answer for anything.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:34 PM
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3. And even then it took a fucking 30+ page "agreement" to frame the "debate"
before they had one of them.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:31 PM
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4. Silence does not denote consent kick.
Or does it-in YOUR mind?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:37 AM
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5. Nobody wants to discuss secrecy policies of George W. Bush aka The
War President?
lol.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:28 PM
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6. CIA Behind Automated Chat Room Spying Scheme
by NewStandard Staff

Dec 12 - Documents obtained by a public interest research center show that the US Central Intelligence Agency and the National Science Foundation collaborated to fund researchers developing software to electronically spy on Internet chat rooms.

The documents, obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) through a Freedom of Information Act and reviewed by The NewStandard, show that $157,673 was awarded to researchers Bulent Yener and Mukkai Krishnamoorthy to fund the development of chat room surveillance software. That document includes information about the project -- conducted under the auspices of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York -- the objective of which is described as the establishment of a "fully automated surveillance system for data collection and analysis in Internet chat rooms to discover hidden groups."

The document further explains that surveillance will determine what is being discussed in various chat rooms, who is discussing those topics, and if the topic is "hot" in a particular chat room. "Thus, the proposed system could aid the intelligence community to discover hidden communities and communication patterns in chat rooms without human intervention," the document states.

The description goes on to explain that the "award is supported jointly by the NSF and the Intelligence Community."

Another document obtained by EPIC through the Freedom of Information Act is a "Memorandum of Understanding" between the National Science Foundation and the CIA outlining a "jointly funded research initiative" to "encourage long-term high-risk research approaches to scientific research in support of the nation’s fight against terrorism."

While the amount of money provided by the CIA to the initiative has been blanked out, the Memorandum shows the National Science Foundation contributing $2.5 million in both fiscal years 2003 and 2004. The document also shows that the National Science Foundation is providing 70 percent of the funding, leading The NewStandard to extrapolate that the CIA provided an average of $1 million in each of those years.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=1307



Published on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 by the Associated Press
Bush Funds US Spying on Internet Chat Rooms
by Michael Hill


CYBERSNOOP
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute computer science professor Bulent Yener poses in his office in Troy, N.Y., on Thursday, Sept. 30, 2004, with a map created by Bell Labs of the major Internet Service Providers as they existed on Aug. 19, 1999. Yener wants to develop mathematical models that can uncover structure in the scattershot traffic of chat rooms. (AP Photo/Jim McKnight)

A Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute computer science professor hopes to develop mathematical models that can uncover structure within the scattershot traffic of online public forums.

...

Trying to monitor the sea of traffic on all the chat channels would be like assigning a police officer to listen in on every conversation on the sidewalk - virtually impossible.

Instead of rummaging through megabytes of messages, RPI professor Bulent Yener (yener@cs.rit.edu) will use mathematical models in search of patterns in the chatter. Downloading data from selected chat rooms, Yener will track the times that messages were sent, creating a statistical profile of the traffic.

...

"For us, the challenge is to be able to determine, without reading the messages, who is talking to whom," Yener said.

In search of "hidden communities," Yener also wants to check messages for certain keywords that could reveal something about what's being discussed in groups.

The $157,673 grant comes from the National Science Foundation's Approaches to Combat Terrorism program. It was selected in coordination with the nation's intelligence agencies.

The NSF's Leland Jameson said the foundation judged the proposal strictly on its broader scientific merit, leaving it to the intelligence community to determine its national security value. Neither the CIA nor the FBI would comment on the grant, with a CIA spokeswoman citing the confidentiality of sources and methods.

....

Mark Rasch, a former head of the Justice Department's computer crimes unit, said such a system would bring the country one step closer to the Pentagon's much-maligned Terrorism Information Awareness program.

Research on that massive data-mining project was halted after an uproar over its impact on privacy.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1012-02.htm

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:02 PM
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7. Kick from a cellar dwellar.
I'm at the rabbit and can only visit briefly. From what I can see, the FAS is doing the government's work: Informing the People.

Oops. My bad. I forgot. That's in a democracy.

Thanks for the heads-up, bobthedrummer! You rock.

As for the DUers who don't like to learn new things. Geez. Get a clue.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:43 PM
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8. What's up with Bush's "perception management" scheme?
TIA. Admiral Poindexter, OSP, Douglas Feith, Steve Cambone, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld-war criminals, some of them are traitors imo!:grr:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:49 PM
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9. Robert Parry: Bush's 'Perception Management' Plan
You certainly know your NAZIs, bobthedrummer. Speak of the devil...

Bush's 'Perception Management' Plan

By Robert Parry
November 18, 2004

George W. Bush has been criticized for disdaining fact in favor of faith in his own instincts. But he is savvy about the dangers that information can present to his authority over the government and the American people.

That is why the first priority of his second term has been the elimination of the few government sources of information that could challenge the images he wants to project to the public. Bush doesn’t want the State Department or the Central Intelligence Agency portraying his Iraq and other foreign policies as abject failures or reckless adventures.

So, by attacking these remaining pockets of analytical resistance, Bush is moving to ensure that his administration can keep much of the U.S. population seeing a near-empty cup as almost entirely full, a concept known in the intelligence world as “perception management.”

On a personal level, Bush appears to have found in his electoral victory a validation of his public-relations strategy of casting his foreign policy as a black-and-white war between good and evil. In this tough-talking approach, Bush has been helped immeasurably by the powerful conservative news media, ranging from AM talk radio to Fox News, from right-wing newspaper columnists to Internet bloggers.

Indeed, it is impossible to understand why Americans have grown so detached from reality without appreciating the combined impact of this conservative media – built over the past quarter century – and Bush’s personal insistence on loyalty over almost all other values. These two factors have made the United States a kind of ultimate test for the Orwellian intelligence theories of “perception management.”

Controlling Opinions

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/111804.html

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Democracy Died 2004 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:55 PM
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10. We should all pledge to write 1 FOI a week
Here have a go at it.


http://www.rcfp.org/foi_letter/generate.php?letter_id=4539&letter_code=pynqostak

I have sent in some already. Don't know where it will lead to and also please read the fees part. It could become costly.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:20 PM
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11. That's a good idea!
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 01:21 PM by bobthedrummer
Remember, BFEE is loaded with $$$ stolen from everyone that's against them.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:48 PM
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12. No secrecy to cover up crimes- kick.
:dem::kick:
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