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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:15 PM
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justice for Peterson=torture??
At work today I listened in awe as my co-workers fully described all the torture they wished to be inflicted on Scott Peterson. It was disturbing, I am talking TORTURE...describing ripping off fingernails one by one, sodomizing with broomsticks and burying him alive. These people did not know him and weren't directly affected by his actions...they are also very devout RW christians and I felt a chill thinking they could harbor such perverse desire to inflict suffering...if they are capable of such thoughts for someone they don't know....well it's not much of a jump to see them tolerating human rights violations of people who are made to seem a threat to them. Just something to think about. I personally did not follow the case so I won't make judgement on Peterson, but I do feel compassion when anyone is treated as nonhuman...I feel the same compassion for Lacey but I cannot know if he was guilty or not. People should never be dehumanized in my opinion. No good can come of it, or of a society that condones it. Please note, I am not saying all christians are like this..just pointing out the disconnect between these individuals' worship of a loving God vs. their desire to inflict suffering on a fellow human being.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:18 PM
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1. There's a surefire way to see if he killed Laci.
Throw him in a lake and see if he floats.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:19 PM
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2. so true LOL n/t
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:20 PM
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3. Yep
the moral, upstanding pro-values "christians" are the first to advocate the most awful forms of punishment.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:22 PM
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5. to those who say enough with the Peterson story
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 06:23 PM by giasangria
I don't think the story should have gotten major news coverage. I didn't even follow it. But I don't think we should ignore society's reaction to the story. It is very telling, I think. These are co-workers that are normally warm, friendly, and calm. Its chilling to see the transformation.
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:34 PM
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10. I agree
yes, the story was obviously overplayed. But the national reaction to it is fascinating.

For some reason, Americans seem to think that the only way to express disapproval of some things is to advocate the most inhumane torture possible. They seem to think that somehow you're "soft on murder" if you advocate less than the ongoing torture-leading-to-death of a convicted person.

It's a game of one-upmanship. "I hate murder THIS much, so I advocate the death penalty." "Oh yeah? I hate it more than YOU, so I advocate having his testicles gnawed off by starving squirrels." "Harrumph! Well then *I* think the squirrels should be infected with rabies and their teeth filed down to make it last longer..." etc. etc.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:43 PM
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12. abuse in prisons
I hear some say that they would rather him not get the death penalty because the prisoners would be more brutal to him. Sad that this may be true, but why are prisoners permitted to abuse other prisoners...it's kind of like...you broke the law so now you are going to a place where you can break the law...I know they are probably overcrowded, understaffed, etc, but I find it disgraceful. I have a friend in prison for a nonviolent charge and I worry what he will be like next year when he is released. How does it benefit society to allow criminals to be abused and then release them back into the world?
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:50 PM
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27. Society doesn't benefit
but some don't care unless it hits close to home.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:21 PM
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4. Feed him to the lions.
Do the fundies feel we have to re-create the social climate in ancient Rome before we can get the second coming?
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JaneDoughnut Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:47 PM
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13. We still need our metaphorical lions
I think it may be hard-wired into the human brain.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:50 PM
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14. not all human brains
not everyone shares this impulse
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haifagirl1 Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:24 PM
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6. no problem
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:25 PM
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7. It is pretty sick, huh ?
I know I just answered a poll on MSGOP. Do you agree with the juror's ?
Well, no because The Death Penalty seems barbaric and vile to me .
State sanctioned murder really what is the difference between Saudi Regime be-headings and American death penalty ?

The public viewing is about it and a different way to the same conclusion , death.
The crowd is just smaller...

I don't have an opinion on Scott Peterson because his case was used to distract Americans and I did not see any evidence.
As far as your co-workers it is a shame that you have to listen to something so horrible !
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:31 PM
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8. two minute hate anyone?
Fox news could sponsor it. Hell it might be therapeutic for these people.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:34 PM
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11.  FOX gives a thumbs up to torture
its unpatriotic to dissent torture.

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:03 PM
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16. Besides watching FOX
is
our torture !
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:03 PM
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18. Funny you should mention " Saudi Regime be-headings"...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 07:07 PM by nine23
The Koran states that beheading is the most humane form of punishment that can be given out, ie. nerves immediately severed from body/mind, instantaneous death, etc. They consider all other forms of capital punishment barbaric.

Welcome to the world's capital punishment "peer group"...a smallish club to be sure, but it's membership looks rather interesting.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:06 PM
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19. farenheit 9/11 beheading...
not sure but it didn't look instantaneous...kinda looked like it took more than one swing. Maybe it is the most physically humane but the fact that it is public is very inhumane in my opinion.
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:09 PM
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20. I'm not saying for a moment I agree with this...
I'm just saying "check out the club"...
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:11 PM
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21. I didn't think you condoned it...
your post just reminded me of that scene.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:47 PM
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26. That is very interesting
and I did not know that and had wondered why beheadings
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:33 PM
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9. Could we do that stuff to bush?
:evilgrin:
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:01 PM
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15. Why Would They Want to Torture Scotty?
Cruel, sick bastards. In other words, your typical Freeper.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:03 PM
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17. lol...my whole state is filled with "your typical freeper" n/t
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:17 PM
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22. makes sense to me
Our republican govt and the church walk hand in hand, both favor the cruelest forms of punishment and think torture is fine. Doesn't surprise me a bit your "religious" co-workers are for torture.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:18 PM
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23. Nothing beats a good crucifixion. (n/t)
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:21 PM
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24. that reminds me
how every Good Friday I went to a church play depicting step by step the agony suffered by Jesus at the hands of the evil Romans.
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giasangria Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:27 PM
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25. same people said Saddam had to go because ...
He was TORTURING people! lol my head will explode from trying to sort through the absurdity.
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