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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:10 PM
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Schwarzkopf expresses anger!
ON MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6708495/

"Hardball answers
Schwarzkopf, interviewed on MSNBC-TV’s “Hardball,” chided Rumsfeld for his reply to a soldier in Kuwait over the lack of armor on many military vehicles used in Iraq.

“I was very, very disappointed — no, let me put it stronger — I was angry by the words of the secretary of defense when he laid it all on the Army, as if he, as the secretary of defense, didn’t have anything to do with the Army and the Army was over there doing it themselves, screwing up,” Schwarzkopf said.

Schwarzkopf, a registered independent who campaigned for Bush in the last two presidential elections, has previously criticized Rumsfeld on several occasions as arrogant and out of touch with troops on the ground.

Monday, Schwarzkopf said the Defense Department had badly misjudged the situation in Iraq. Reserve forces were rushed into urban combat — “toughest kind of fighting” — without adequate training, and “things have gone awry.”

“In the final analysis, I think we are behind schedule” in Iraq, Schwarzkopf said. “... I don’t think we counted on it turning into jihad.”

The public pounding may have taken a toll on public confidence in Rumsfeld. A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, conducted Thursday through Monday, found that public approval of Rumsfeld, already fairly low, had fallen to 34 percent from 39 percent in May."
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:12 PM
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1. It's exactly what Stormin' Norman asked for, the dumb ass. nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:17 PM
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3. Thank you!
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 07:18 PM by eleny
He couldn't give more praise to this gang of thugs before and at the start of the war. Now, he's all righteous. I'm not buying it.

We all knew it was going to be a horrible mess while the military types were licking their lips. I never went further studying Anthropology than getting my BA degree in it. And even I knew that going to war against Iraq with its three cultures meant certain death for too many soldiers.

Norman - Shut the f up.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:42 PM
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13. Uh..huh! Go with the Chimp, Norm, you get Rumsfailed too, you idiot! n/t
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:14 PM
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2. Bush will not dump his co-conspirators

They'll hang together or they'll surely hang separately
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:23 PM
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4. Surely on orders from the Bush cabal.
The cabal has been saying for months that the Iraqi elections are sooooo important and everyting will get better after the elections. The date for the elections is nearing and the cabal knows that it will change nothing. They are setting up Rumsfeld to be the blame guy to protect Bush when the body bags continue to fly home by the hundreds.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:31 PM
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5. Shouldn't have voted for Bush then dick head
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:52 PM
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6. People that voted bush and bitch about the war.......
should be bitch-slapped by chipmunks 5 hours a day. You don't want the war?!?!?!? You voted for it dumb ass!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:57 PM
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8. Logic
If Kerry/Edwards were in charge after Jan. there would still be the U.S. Military Occupation of Iraq. Rumsfailed and crew would be gone but Iraq would still be under siege.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:01 PM
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9. sad. but true
Shock and Awe were the "words, once spoken"...
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:09 PM
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16. I suppose that's true
but they don't need to reward him for creating a mess. You think they guy that messed it up in the first place is the guy to fix it? Well, maybe, but I didn't think so.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:53 PM
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7. Fun with Freepers: Replace "Schwarzkopf" with "Clinton" in the article.
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 08:09 PM by The Night Owl
Post the following on Free Republic...

Hardball answers

Hillary Clinton, interviewed on MSNBC-TV’s “Hardball,” chided Rumsfeld for his reply to a soldier in Kuwait over the lack of armor on many military vehicles used in Iraq.

“I was very, very disappointed — no, let me put it stronger — I was angry by the words of the secretary of defense when he laid it all on the Army, as if he, as the secretary of defense, didn’t have anything to do with the Army and the Army was over there doing it themselves, screwing up,” Clinton said.

Clinton, a Democrat who campaigned against Bush in the last two presidential elections, has previously criticized Rumsfeld on several occasions as arrogant and out of touch with troops on the ground.

Monday, Clinton said the Defense Department had badly misjudged the situation in Iraq. Reserve forces were rushed into urban combat — “toughest kind of fighting” — without adequate training, and “things have gone awry.”

“In the final analysis, I think we are behind schedule” in Iraq, Clinton said. “... I don’t think we counted on it turning into jihad.”


Let the outraged responses mount and then lay the real article on them. Hilarity ensues. Post results here.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:01 PM
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10. Rethugs call 34% a mandate
Rumsfeld and * have the same kind of mandate 34%.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:07 PM
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11. Were was Norman's anger before the election?
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:27 PM
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12. How could they not count on it turning into jihad?
That's just stupid. I think they did count on it, or if they didn't, it serves their purpose.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:20 PM
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14. Stormin' Norman' looking for a new career in politics.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:08 PM
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15. shame on him, his anger is misplaced
he should be mad at himself. i dont care his accomplishments in life. he turned his back on the soldiers (knowingly) voting for bush

now he shifts the blame after bush is re elected

shame on him
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:46 PM
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17. Hey Norman ...
... don't forget that Bush killed the only "peacekeeper" training school we had as one of his first actions in office!!!

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:58 PM
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18. Everyone who didn't stand to make lots of $$$$$$$$$$
on the war knew it was going to turn into a jihad. Stormin' Norman is a stupid fuckwad!
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