Creationist "science" has invaded the internet

[DianeG5385]

I was helping my son do a project tonight on the evolution of the dog. 'Lo and behold, as I checked the site for a dog family tree it was a creationist site, attempting to debunk evolution! I told my son not to rely on that dog family tree and continued my search. Seriously, at least once or twice in every search popped up some "scholarly " article on how evolution is not true science!! They quoted the bible and this inflamed me!!! Kids are using the internet to do their homework and are innocent pawns to their political game!!! And it is ALL about control! I am freaked! Why can't our kids learn without being tainted by these frauds!

[MichaelHarris]

1. Oh man Diane

I was reserching my latest article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=226&topic_id=430

And I ran across some of the goofiest stuff I've ever seen, freaked me right out.

[DianeG5385]

6. They are insidious and pure evil

There is nothing religious about them. They want CONTROL and we NOT going to cede that to them, regardless of the stupid DLC!

[MichaelHarris]

8. and extremely

hypocritical

[DianeG5385]

2. I told my son that this was NOT science but mythology and

Google needs to think about how it categorizes creationism, because it is bunk. Jeez! We were looking up dog evolution for God's sake! (Irony). I am personally offended at the mixing of science and religion, especially when these articles rely on bible verses, and this so-called creationist "science" (and I hate to use the word science when referring to them)needs to be classified as religios theory as it has absolutely no basis in the bible, which is the "King James" "Official" version, not EVEN the word! Based on the number of articles I have seen, we are VERY behind the curve and need to make a fuss and expose these bleep-holes before they further confuse our kids. Any one know how we can e-mail Google to change the association?

[nascarblue]

4. Speaking of google, do any of you remember...

... the actual name of those neo-con organizations? I remember I googled one of those talking head Christians organizations after I saw them spewing their garbage on MSNBC about the Desperate Housewives scandal. The results were shocking. The one organization had about 50 offsprings. Anyone remember the name of the organization?

[nascarblue]

3. Yeah, it's totally out of control....

It's like the Reagan years all over again. Except this time they have an army of teens. It's completely out of control.

Did anyone see Scarborough Country tonight? They were distorting the Creationism vs, Evolution school situation. They had one guy from the ACLU against 4 others. He was getting attacked from all sides. The sad thing was, everytime he was going to make a good point, they just interrupted him. They wouldn't even let him make the point that the lawsuit was about specifically a science class! x(

Why are all these news programs doing all this Christian propaganda crap every night? :boring: Iraqi kids are being napalmed and they show these stupid Christian subjects with manufactured and distorted issues. Don't they realize even people that go to church every Sunday are going to be totally turned off by all the crap?

[DianeG5385]

11. It's called Distraction

"Pay no attention to the dead American soldiers, the tens of thousands of wounded, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead". Look over here! We need to get wise to this tactic and refuse to engage but fight them in every way we can before they muddy the scientific waters.

[ChairOne]

5. Here on DU too.....

..... a surprising number of creationism sympathizers...

[drhilarius]

7. And I've no sympathy for the sympathizers...

Amazing that, on both sides, you hear people grousing about American students' slipping science and math scores/skills. Well, guess what? When you teach, or even consider teaching, mythological crap, students lose the critical thinking skills necessary to excel in fields such as science and math. "God did it" is not the basis, and certainly not the conclusion, of scientific inquiry.

[ChairOne]

17. from your mouth.....

to <ahem> god's ears...

lol

[moggie]

9. That was a useful lesson for him

It's not just about creationism. The Internet is a goldmine of information, but a lot of it is wrong. Anyone using the net for research needs to tread carefully and exercise critical thinking skills, rather than just blindly accepting the first site google leads them to.

[DianeG5385]

12. Fortunately, he's a clever guy

and he listens to his mom!

[trotcop]

10. You Have To Check This Site Out

http://objective.jesussave.us/creationsciencefair.html

Some of my favs. ...

2nd Place: "Women Were Designed For Homemaking"
Jonathan Goode (grade 7) applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.


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[DianeG5385]

13. I think my brain is going to burst!

Don't bother debating crap, dismiss it as bogus mythology, politically based with no cultural or religious basis. Sue anyone that calls this crap science.

[charlie]

19. Creation Science Fair

is a parody. It's by the Landover Baptist guys. That it's so mind-wrenchingly out there, yet plausibly real, is a dismaying state of affairs.

[DianeG5385]

20. Not really as long as we debunk it as mythologgy which is what it is

Creationist "science" fairs are based on a BELIEF SYSTEM which has no connection to the scientific method and can, therefore, not be tested and validated. Debunk and dismiss and do not defend sound science against this nonsense as science stands on its own. This is an outrage!

[charlie]

21. To be clear

It wasn't creation "science" that I was calling plausibly real, but the Creation Science Fair linked above. It's a joke site.

[Lexingtonian]

14. They've gone over to a propaganda war

It's ugly, it's sad, it's stupid. And the Internet is the cheapest and easiest medium to spread their hokum- it's home base of the agitprop now. They've lost the 'scientific' arguments they've tried to maintain rather thoroughly. But, in truth they don't care about any facts, scientific or otherwise. What they're really doing is trying their hardest to generate an intellectual/psychological problem that is intense and obvious to the simplest of the simple folk, and that has a God of the theist kind (distant, creatorish, think Zeus or Jupiter) as The Answer.

If you live near Santee, California, or Cincinnati, Ohio, check out the 'Museums of Creationism' the people have set up. Try not to laugh, or look bug-eyed, or say "but...it's 2004 in the Real World" while there...think about what an insane asylum run by the insane would be like....

[Fleshdancer]

15. my fundy mother in law attempted to debate the subject a few days ago

It's weird, it's as if it popped up over night. Over the last two weeks the subject has been debated all over DU, news channels, between family members, and as you said, google. It's freakin' nuts. You know things are going to get very bad when science has to once again defend itself against philosophy.

I researched creationism a couple of days ago to find out exactly how it was defended against evolution and apparently there are various categories of creationist belief. The scariest thing was finding a group of people that STILL chose to believe that the world is FLAT. Why? Because of how they interpreted a particular line in the bible. I just don't get it.

[DianeG5385]

16. It may be that the great divide represents an evolutional schism

It could be that we are the next level and the creationists the last gasp of a dying subspecies. One can only hope and"pray". I think the taxonomy of my son's evolution term project has gotten to me! Why did we not have these problems 30 years ago? Have we, or an element of humanity, devolved?

[Fleshdancer]

18. religion has a long history of strangling scientific progress

I guess it's just time for another round. What really gets under my skin is when religion takes over proven scientific fact and then incorporates it into its belief...like how some believe that god started the evolution process (is that what intelligent design is?). From my personal perspective, it just uses religion as a filler until scientists can then answer the current unanswered questions.

When it comes to evolution though, I hope your right. I'd sleep better at night knowing this was all due to the near death of creationism. But then I talk to my mother in law who questions the science behind carbon dating...and yet the idea that some guy created everything in seven days isn't far fetched to her. :eyes: