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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:19 PM
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Poll question: Evolution Poll Number 2
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 02:26 PM by bryant69
I've apparently done one of these before. Anyway here's the question.

Does a belief in Evolution automatically conflict with a belief in a creator?

Bryant
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:20 PM
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1. spell check, please.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:21 PM
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2. I voted no, but it is worded awfully funny.
One opinion, two beliefs, and a conflict.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:24 PM
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3. How could it have been worded better?
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:24 PM
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4. I'd drop the opinion for one.
Obviously what ever choice you make in the poll it's your opinion.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:26 PM
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5. Simple examples...
Science: The Earth is round
Belief: Santa Clause exists

Science: Evolution
Belief: Creator
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:26 PM
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6. It should be obvious... but if not.....
Read the intro chapter or two of Daniel Dennett - Darwin's Dangerous Idea... the stuff about Universal Solvent... (That's what evolution is...)

The science wars *really* exist, folks, no matter how much some people (for unspoken reasons) wanna pretend that they don't... And they exist for excellent reason - churches know perfectly well they don't fit into a scientific world... The churches wanna maintain relevance, and the people don't wanna own up to the fact that they've been had all this time...
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:29 PM
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8. So I take it you would say they necessarily conflict?
A person can't believe in God and in Darwin?
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:47 PM
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10. Yup - sorry - didn't mean to beat around the bush...
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 02:48 PM by ChairOne
At least - it's not possible to *consistently* believe in the pair...
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:57 PM
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11. I wonder if any scientists would disagree with this.
Hmmmmm.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:35 PM
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9. But churches have other uses.
I am wondering if there is not some baby/bath water analogy here.

I can see many reasons for "churches" besides the explanation of origins and intercession with supreme being functions. they serve a communal and social function. There have been attempts to form secular churches such as The Ethical Culture Society.

I am an atheist but I have a spiritual cultural aspect that I would like serviced. What to do?

--IMM
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:27 PM
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7. Evolution is creative.
If one looks at the history of the universe, evolution is the creative force, being, whatever.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:57 PM
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12. well...
I voted no, because there were those in the past that believed in a creator, yet at the same time believed in the natural order of science and stuff that took place on earth...you know..like Deist.
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