How do we get the confederate flag banned?

[AnIndependentTexan]

[flaminbats]

1. Why not remove it from state flags in Georgia and Mississippi?

let's start with the taxpayer funded racism.

[DBoon]

2. Taxpayer funded treason!

The only silver lining in an anti-flag burning constitutional amendment is that it might leave a wedge for outlawing the display of the confederate flag.

[robre]

5. I really hate responding to stupid "o we're hunting 4 freeper threads"...

but, would the this ban on the display of the confederate flag also ban the burning of the confederate flag?

[Spiffarino]

11. Shhh....be vewwy, vewwy quiet.

Heheheheheh.

[Swamp Rat]

15. Ehh, what's up Doc?

Whatcha dooin'?... crunch crunch crunch... mbmfhbm, crunch... Lookin' for sumthin'?... crunch crunch crunch...

[Spiffarino]

3. Oh no, it's heritage, not hate!!

Just kidding! In fact, it's pure, disgusting, vile, garden-variety inbreeder douchebag hate!

Does the class know in what era the Confederate flag came into prominence in southern states?

Anybody?

OK, here's a hint...Brown v. Board of Education.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

4. I don't think it should be banned

No flag should. Not even a flag with a swastika. But I agree with the above posters' opinions on the flags of Mississippi and Georgia. We, the taxpayers, should not fund a racist symbol.

[REP]

6. We Don't

"We" don't ban history we don't like, or opinions we don't agree with, or people who piss us off.

[Pushed To The Left]

18. I totally agree.

If we start banning things that offend us, then we are behaving like the religious right.

[REP]

21. We Shouldn't Ban HIstory That Shames Us

The Confederate flag did stand for more than slavery, but today, most people associate it with that. To ban the Confederate flag gives credence to what a small group of bigots would like to believe and beyond that, it is acting as though removing one small symbol will remove one way of thinking, which is just silly. Banning that flag will only make a small group feel more justified; help distort history and finally, look as though we are trying to deny that our country engaged not only in the horrible practice of slavery but in a ghastly and bloody civil war.

[AZCat]

25. No, but poor Cat Stevens can vouch for *'s policies...

in that regard.

After all, he did sing "Peace Train". Now THAT's a blueprint for terrorism. :eyes:

[masaka___]

7. We don't.

Confederate sympathizers have the right to free speech, too.

As long as they don't take actions that infringe on my civil liberties, let them be.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." --Frederich Nietzsche

[Swamp Rat]

8. Get ready for trolls...

The confederate flag is the same thing as the Nazi flag.

It should be forever banned from public places. Inbred rednecks can have it in their home or wipe their ass with it for all I care, but it should NEVER be flown above or on a public building or property.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

43. Exactly.

lol "Inbred rednecks can have it in their home or wipe their ass with it for all I care, but it should NEVER be flown above or on a public building or property."

[JVS]

9. Use it as the gay pride flag. The good ole boys would never touch it then

[quaoar]

10. Is the Klan banned?

No.

How about the Nazi Party?

No.

Can you fly a flag with a swastika or some symbol of white supremacy if you want?

Yes.

[Nordic]

12. I'm an American. I believe in freedom of speech and expression

which means if you want to put a statue of Adolf Hitler in your front yard, you can.

What the fuck are you talking about banning anything?

Who the fuck are you to even suggest it?

[bluedonkey]

13. Like we don't have enough

to worry about right now.This country is running straight into facism and you want to ban a flag.WTF!
I suggest you avoid everything Southern that way you don't run the risk of having to look at a flag you so despise.

[maveric]

14. Dont you think that we have bigger fish to fry than this?

Drop it allready!

[ScaRBama]

36. I agree 100%

[Undercover Owl]

16. No it should not be banned.

Free Speech!

[Spiffarino]

17. Damn you patriots!

Screwing up a perfectly good troll phishing expedition just because of your darned democratic principles.

Which you're right about.

Completely.

[Lexingtonian]

19. Oh, that's way too easy a question!

We pay Ayatollah Sistani off to make the Stars And Bars the official battle flag of Iraqi Shi'ites.

[magellan]

20. Except you'd be exporting the wrong flag

The Stars and Bars is different from the Confederate Battle Flag (the one used by southern racists).

[InvisibleBallots]

22. repeal the First Amendment of course

[Bridget Burke]

23. No.

If it was on my state's flag, I'd be working to have it removed. (One good point of Texas chauvinism--nobody's ever dared to change the Lone Star!) On private property, we're talking about freedom of speech.

Anybody who knows a bit of history realizes the Battle Flag is not the real flag of the Confederacy. And the Battle Flag only became popular as a reaction to the Civil Rights movement.

It's good to have these people identified. A truly Liberal Dictatorship would require them to wear the flag on a patch. (Only joking!)

[Selatius]

24. We tried to get rid of the rebel flag in Mississippi

Short answer: The resolution failed.

People down here see it as a symbol of heritage. More people saw it that way than as a symbol of Jim Crow. Personally, I would have been happier with the magnolia blossom on the flag, not the rebel flag. The only damn reason it was put on the state flag was in response to Brown v. Topeka Board of Education, which abolished separate-but-equal. It was put on the flag to spite people, and people like to gloss over that fact.

[ChairOne]

26. All of this "don't ban it" blabber is stupid.....

It's not a freedom of speech issue for fuck's sake....

The "ban" isn't what reasonable people have under consideration. Rather, what's completely reasonable is for the GOVERNMENT, both federal and local, to not fly the damn thing.

sheesh - that's not freedom of speech, or anything remotely resembling it - you other jackasses are free to fly it all you want. It just the GOVERNMENT that should be prohibited from using it.

Much like religion guys. This isn't hard. We don't let the government hoist religion on us, and thereby are free to hoist it on ourselves. SAME WITH THE CONFEDERATE FLAG.

Sheesh.

[American Tragedy]

44. We are responding to the original post, and that is NOT what he said

If that is indeed what he meant, then he should have specified.

[NoPasaran]

27. Repealing the First Amendment would be a start

If you really want to go down that road.

[Walt Starr]

28. Amend the constitution

Repeal the first amendment and you're in like Flynn.

:eyes:

[RebelOne]

29. There was so much brouhaha about the flag here in Georgia.

Actually, it does not matter to me. I know that it is a money maker. I worked weekends for a while at a flea market. We sold all types of flags. And the confederate flag sold like hotcakes.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

30. Step One...

move to a country that doesn't recognize freedom of expression.

Step Two...

[taps]

31. This is a stupid thread...

The flag should not be banned! It's history and you don't just wipe it away by banning part of it. There's always something out there that someone wants to do away with.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

32. about the same way you ban other expression of bigotry

by changing the constitution...

theProdigal

[tx_dem41]

33. I value the First Amendment and freedom of expression and political..

speech to much to ban a symbol.

[William Bloode]

34. I saw a good idea...

Posted in another thread. I don't even think it should be banned, it's free speech. Hey i fly one myself. But i think blacks should embrace and fly it themselves, make it their own take the symbolism of racism it has for some away.

It only has any kind of symbolic power if you let it have such.

[gottaB]

37. Do you support flying the NuSouth Flag on government buildings?

http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/ar20020703flag.asp

Why not the Universal African Flag? Isn't that part of your heritage and mine?

[William Bloode]

38. No i don't support the flag on goverment buildings an flags...

I even have a bit of trouble when it has been voted for. For personal use however, anything goes.

Yes, thats true. No matter who you are or what color you skin, the scientific evidence shows we are all African at heart. So all of could fly the Universal African Flag.

[htuttle]

35. It won't happen until the US atones for hundreds of years of slavery

Don't hold your breath.

[ScaRBama]

39. Then the next step will be to ban....

all books with the confederate flag on the cover. Once you start telling people they can't have something because someone doesn't like it you are taking away more and more freedoms.
Time will take care of most of the flags. If you live in the south you can see a big difference in the last 30 years. I say just let it breed itself out and this will be the quickest way. If you try and make people get rid of them,people will rebel and you will start seeing more and more of them. It will be more of a rebirth rather than a way to see less of them.

[DoNotRefill]

40. This thread restores some of my faith in DU....

People who believe in the First Amendment: Be warned. Some here will call you a racist and worse because you don't want to allow the Government to ban unpopular speech.

[ladjf]

41. We've got a lot of more serious problems than the Confederate

flag, phony elections for instance.

[American Tragedy]

42. I hope you're not serious.

I definitely agree that it shouldn't be on state flags in the South, but the symbol itself shouldn't be banned.

My opinion on people who wave the rebel flag is the same as my stated view on the KKK and the Holocaust revisionists who came to my college: I dare them to try. I am not afraid of them.

In an authentic war of ideas in which all sides can freely express themselves, those who do not have the truth on their side are quite likely to lose. We proved it in every debate with them. Certainly there remains the risk of deception and demagoguery, but that is the inevitable price of civil liberties, and the responsibility of informed citizens of the free world.

Aside from the implied threat of allowing the establishment to try to forbid undesirable beliefs and symbols, I am convinced that banishing them only validates their conspiracy theories, and enables them to present themselves as a persecuted minority. Fuck that. Bring it on.

[bryant69]

45. Banned in what sense?

If you mean banned from public property--that might be doable. If you mean banned from people putting it on the back of their trucks, let me know what other free expressions you want to ban.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[SemiCharmedQuark]

46. Banned from government buildings?

I don't know but it should be done. Heritage my ass...it's a hate symbol. As far as in the privacy of one's own life, one's car, one's house, one's shirt, whatever. People can do what they want.

[theboss]

47. Become the left-wing censors they accuse of as being.

Why ban it?

[Name removed]

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[VioletLake]

49. What the fuck for?

Shameful idea, A.I. Tex.

[Skinner]

50. I'm locking this.

I kinda thought, you know, 1st Amendment and all...