I hate it when this happens...a conservative christian makes sense

[RUDUing2]

and says things I agree with....

(no I do not agree w/anything he says at the beginning of the article when he is telling his *credentials*...but keep reading..the rest is pretty amazing considering who it is written by..and I mean good amazing...not shake your head what a whackjob amazing)

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/chuckwagon.html

.........(all about his *creditials* as a conservative christian).....No one can honestly question my commitment to pro-life, pro- family, conservative causes. That being said, the Religious Right, as it now exists, scares me.

For one reason, on the whole, the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party in general and for President G.W. Bush in particular. This is in spite of the fact that both Bush and the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., have routinely ignored and even trampled the very principles which the Religious Right claims to represent.

Therefore, no longer does the Religious Right represent conservative, Christian values. Instead, they represent their own self-serving interests at the expense of those values. ......(click on link to read).......Another disconcerting feature of today's Religious Right is its attempt to Christianize political entities which it supports and to demonize political entities which it opposes. This trend is especially scary.

When people are told that they are voting "Christian" by voting for Republican Party candidates, it is being intimated that they are voting non-Christian by voting for any other candidate. This is not only silly on its face, it is downright dangerous! ......(click on link to read this part)........Are we heading for a modern day religious inquisition, this one led not by the Catholic Church but by the Religious Right? Are we witnessing the type of marriage between Church and State that America's founders originally feared?

I used to believe that liberals were paranoid for being fearful of conservative Christians gaining political power. Now, I share their trepidation. ......(click on link to read this part).....

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[tk2kewl]

2. Is the Kool-Aid wearing off?

[Laelth]

3. Hmm ... I think he's especially wrong about this part:

He says:

"When the seed of Bush's unconstitutional policies come to fruition, it will produce large scale fallout economically, socially, and politically. And sadder still will be that, instead of blaming Bush's infidelity to constitutional government and conservative principles, people will blame Christianity and conservatism itself."

This I doubt. It's more likely that liberals will be blamed, as usual, for all the ills of mankind ... oh, and Bill Clinton, of course.

:eyes:

-Laelth

[bloom]

4. I noticed these Conservative Wackos didn't like Bush* either

but that doesn't give them a pass in my book. They have gone off the deep end as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_bushrevealed.html

[Mike Niendorff]

5. Worth the read.

I'd say more, but it pretty much speaks for itself. I just wish I could have some confidence that anyone in that movement will listen to him.


MDN

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. I don't think the Catholic Church bought into Bush's us vs. them strategy.

Remember his little trip to the Vatican? I don't think the Pope agreed to do the things that Bush wanted him to do. It chills me everytime I think about that meeting. Like the Anti-Christ visiting one of our oldest Christian institutions. I may not agree with the Vatican on many issues, but I give them credit for not jumping onto the right-wing parade and sending a meme to vote Bush.

[Bridget Burke]

8. A few bishops & priests got on the bandwagon.

But the roots of hardcore Christian Reconstructionism are profoundly anti-Catholic. Bob Jones University, etc.

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. "A few bishops" doesn't constitute a mandate, nor carry the

power of the Vatican. And you hit that last spot on the head. Catholics and Southern Baptists don't have that much in common with each other when it comes to community building.

[bloom]

9. Someone was telling me about her Catholic mother who felt

terrible because her priest more or less admonished them that not to vote for Bush* would be a sin or something.

But she couldn't bring herself to vote for him anyway (so didn't vote for anyone).

[Finding Rawls]

11. A priest at my church

invited a fellow priest from Wisconsin, a "friend", down for a week before the election. This "friend" fliered all of the cars during the 8:00, 9:30 and 11:00 masses with pamphlets that said Catholics couldn't vote for Kerry. The Catholic Church may not agree with Bush on everything, but they like the way he does things.

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