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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:26 PM
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$44 million....but its still an apartment!
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/17/news/newsmakers/murdoch/index.htm?cnn=yes

Rupert Murdoch, chairman and CEO of media giant News Corp., has agreed to buy the late Laurance Rockefeller's Fifth Avenue penthouse apartment for $44 million, according to a report published Friday.

<snip>

It has 8,000 square feet of floor space and spacious terraces on each floor. The monthly maintenance fee is $21,469.07.

<more>

I think real estate in NY has gone to a whole new level now....
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:28 PM
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1. Monthly maintenance $21,469.07?!
What the F*CK?

What do they do in there, nuke testing?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:23 PM
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26. What's the seven cents for?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:28 PM
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2. If you buy it, isn't it called a 'condo' instead of an apartment?
Or does New York city talk about real estate differently?




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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:29 PM
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5. its a co-op
not a condo
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:32 PM
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9. Ah. We have housing coops in Madison, but I think they work differently
You don't buy your way into a coop here. You are voted in and pay rent and bills (and chores), but the coop as a whole retains ownership of the entire building. Nobody owns any particular part.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:37 PM
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12. its similar but different
in NY you don't actually "buy" your apartment, but rather you buy shares in the corporation that is the building and those shares corospond to the apartment space. before buying, however, the co-op board does have to approve you (which has led to some very famous incidents of people being rejected for all manner of reasons). as they teach in law school - the differnce between a condo and a co-op is that a condo you own the walls, in a co-op you do not.

as for bills, you are responsible your apartment's bills, but as a share holder you are in part responsible for the underlying debt of the building and its management, hence the maintenance payments.

unlike what you described, a NY co-op is not cooperative in the same way....
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:41 PM
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13. Thanks for the explanation
It shed a lot of light on how that works in NYC. Never quite understood the differences before.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:30 PM
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6. Yeah, its a condo or a co-op.
In NYC, calling it an apt is pretty common... as in "buy an apartment".
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:28 PM
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3. 8000 SF is enormous....
Massive is a better word.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:32 PM
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10. agreed
but its still about $5500 per square foot, and he will still be paying $257,628.84 a year in maintenance.....
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:08 PM
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20. A mere pittance. n/t
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:29 PM
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4. Geesh...
I want an apartment at the Carlyle, but those are only about 3 million...and it still has hotel services like maid service, concierge and room service. 44 million and 8,000 is too much!

I need a wealthy sugardaddy:cry:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:30 PM
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7. Is this place rent controlled?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:26 PM
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24. yes
if by "controlled" you mean keeping out everyone who is not a multi-millionaire windbag
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:31 PM
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8. That's just obscene.
But then so is he.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:34 PM
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11. Yeah that a$$hole really needs a tax cut!
:argh: :mad:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:42 PM
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14. Damn, and Gibson got flack for buying an ISLAND for 9 mil
of course, that was Gibson and he deserves it. :)

Hopefully Murdoch will get lost in that 8k space and never find his way out.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:59 PM
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16. I bet we could raise 9MM to buy Murdoch on an Island
if he promised never to leave it.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:01 PM
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18. I'm thinking, "Elba"
Nice and isolated.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:58 PM
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15. Rockefeller must be turning over in his grave. n/t
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:01 PM
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17. not really. Laurence Rockefeller was a Republican. His brother Nelson...
...was Ford's VP for two years for chrissakes.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:07 PM
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19. Ya, but he was the old fiscal kind not the mean, zealot kind. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:10 PM
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21. So all those tax-cuts are trickling down and
creating jobs.....as maids and butlers??? This no doubt is a carefully calculated investment on the part of Murdoch. This is what the rich do with their ill-gotten gains, reinvest it for even more moola. Very little trickles down.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:12 PM
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22. Why doesn't he move to a 'family values red state?' n/t
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:25 PM
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23. one could only hope that such a wish could come true
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:02 PM
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25. Think it is an apt. to poop on!
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:48 PM
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27. Not only that
But this particular co-op requires that you pay the entire purchase price in CASH up front. Imagine being able to pull out a checkbook and write a check for $44 million.
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