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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:41 PM
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Hitler Dodged Taxes (like today's GOP)
Even more in common with the Bush Gang:

Hitler Dodged Taxes, Expert Finds

BBC News
12-17-4

Adolf Hitler spent years dodging taxes, accumulating enormous debts as he led his Nazi party to power, a German tax expert has revealed.

He owed the authorities 405,500 Reichsmarks (6m euros; £4m in today's money) by 1934, when as German chancellor his debts were forgiven.

A retired Bavarian notary, Klaus-Dieter Dubon, found Hitler's tax secrets in papers from the Bavarian State Archive.

"He was constantly challenging tax office rulings," Mr Dubon told Reuters.

The tax office inquired how Hitler had obtained funds to buy a luxury Mercedes car while he was in prison following his abortive 1923 coup attempt.

Hitler replied that he had received a bank loan and the car "is for me just a means to an end".

CONTINUED...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4105683.stm



What are you starin' at?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:43 PM
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1. Great morph !
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:35 PM
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3. Chillingly so.
Hitler died in 1945.

Bush was born in 1946.

One goes out. Another comes in.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:14 AM
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11. 1 yr? Could it possible Hitler had illegitimate seed?
Similar temperment, behavior...and family tie with the Reich.

Nah, coincidental...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:22 AM
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13. Yes. Plus Smirko's too stupid to be a 'Boy from Brazil.'
Unless clones start out stupider than the rest of satan's spawn.



How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Saturday September 25, 2004
The Guardian

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

CONTINUED...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:45 PM
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2. hitel breathed air.. just like today's GOP
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:52 PM
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4. True. They both breathe the same air. "Conspirare" is the root of...
...Conspiracy. Conspirare was a Latin word for "breathing together." Today, of course, it means criminals who work together. In the case of NAZIs and Bushes, though, it means both the original and the new meanings.

If you're interested in learning about the Bush Crime Family's ties, not to the business dealings of Hitler, but to the rise of the modern police state, check out:

CIA's Worst-Kept Secret

By Martin A. Lee
May 16, 2001

EXCERPT...

The CIA reports show that U.S. officials knew they were subsidizing numerous Third Reich veterans who had committed horrible crimes against humanity, but these atrocities were overlooked as the anti-Communist crusade acquired its own momentum. For Nazis who would otherwise have been charged with war crimes, signing on with American intelligence enabled them to avoid a prison term.

"The real winners of the Cold War were Nazi war criminals, many of whom were able to escape justice because the East and West became so rapidly focused after the war on challenging each other," says Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations and America's chief Nazi hunter.

SNIP...

Many Nazi criminals "received light punishment, no punishment at all, or received compensation because Western spy agencies considered them useful assets in the Cold War," the IWG team stated after releasing 18,000 pages of redacted CIA material. (More installments are pending.)

These are "not just dry historical documents," insists former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman, a member of the panel that examined the CIA files. As far as Holtzman is concerned, the CIA papers raise critical questions about American foreign policy and the origins of the Cold War.

The decision to recruit Nazi operatives had a negative impact on U.S.-Soviet relations and set the stage for Washington's tolerance of human rights' abuses and other criminal acts in the name of anti-Communism. With that fateful sub-rosa embrace, the die was cast for a litany of antidemocratic CIA interventions around the world.

The Gehlen Org

The key figure on the German side of the CIA-Nazi tryst was General Reinhard Gehlen, who had served as Adolf Hitler's top anti-Soviet spy. During World War II, Gehlen oversaw all German military-intelligence operations in Eastern Europe and the USSR.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051601a.html

For those interested in learning about the rise of the New Reich, read more well-researched articles:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/nazi.html
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:16 PM
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5. Wow. The morph picture is spooky, and positively effective.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:06 AM
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10. Here's what's really scary... NAZIs tied to JFK Assassination
The Nazi Connection to the JFK Assassination

EXCERPT...

In A Study of a Master Spy, published in London in 196l, Bob Edwards, a member of Parliament and Kenneth Dunne, presented documentary evidence that Allen Dulles of the CIA carried on secret conferences with representatives of Hitler's SS Security Office in February and March 1943. They learned that "Official Washington knew Martin Bormann, Deputy Fuhrer of Hitler's Germany, master-minded the international 'Die Spirule' (Spider) underground organization which is planning to revive nazism as soon as West Germany is adequately rearmed by the United States. Official Washington seems disinterested."

With John J. McCloy, Allen Dulles and J. Edgar Hoover in control of the Kennedy assassination investigation, these nazi connections were buried.

The Bunge Corporation, Argentina & Germany

The stock market dropped 24 points in 27 minutes when news of President Kennedy's assassination was announced. 2.6 million shares were sold off. It was the greatest panic since 1929. Somebody made a huge profit selling short in many markets. Somebody made half a billion dollars in one day.

SNIP...

Allied Crude was controlled by U.S. American Bunge Corporation and financially controlled by a group of share-holders headquartered in Argentina, known as "Bunge and Born, LDA."

SNIP...

Everything about Bunge has German influence. They have a $2 billion annual business in 80 countries. There are over 110 offices, all linked by Telex and under-the-ocean telegraph channels. The Bunge Corporation is referred to as "the Octopus." The book Were We Controlled? detailed the relationship of the Bunge Corporation, the foreknowledge of Kennedy's murder, and the Argentine-German connections.

CONTINUED...

http://www.ctrl.org/essay2/NCTJFKA.html
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:27 PM
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6. And in between
George and Adolph, at about the half-way point...

Russell Crowe.

Or is it just me?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:05 PM
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9. Wow! Didn' know he was a neo-confederate!
For certain, here's a Fascist Spaniard:



Notice all the Ford trucks.
These fellahs sure knew how to make the trains run on time.
Wall Street types like Harriman, Dulles and Bush LOVED them.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:48 PM
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7. that is one creepy picture
how did you do that?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:35 PM
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8. Hermes-Press.com pegs the BFEE for the NAZI turds they are.
Wish that I could take credit. It's the work of a real genius at Hermes-Press.com.

The Nazification of America - Phase IV

http://www.new-enlightenment.com/nazification_step4.htm
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:18 AM
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12. Why should we pay either? "No taxation without representation"...
worked for our forefathers. Maybe then they'd count our votes...when they no longer had our money to spend, or our kids to send to war.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:26 AM
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14. Thing is Smirko's IRS arrests you and me for failing to pay taxes.
Meanwhile they let the Big Time crooks and campaign contributors like Kenny Boy Lay and ENRON get away with sending the bulk of their money to the Cayman Islands -- before they went bust. Then, they mess up the prosecution, if it proceeds at all.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:40 PM
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15. A kick for TIME's NAZI Nutjob of the Year
Dulles and Prescott Bush werelikethis...

Operation PAPERCLIP

EXCERPT...

Dulles and Gehlen hit it off immediately. Gehlen was a master spy for the Nazis and had infiltrated Russia with his vast Nazi Intelligence network. Dulles promised Gehlen that his Intelligence unit was safe in the CIA. Apparently, Wev decided to sidestep the problem. Dulles had the scientists dossier's re-written to eliminate incriminating evidence. As promised, Allen Dulles delivered the Nazi Intelligence unit to the CIA, which later opened many umbrella projects stemming from Nazi mad research. (MK-ULTRA / ARTICHOKE, OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX) Military Intelligence "cleansed" the files of Nazi references. By 1955, more than 760 German scientists had been granted citizenship in the U.S. and given prominent positions in the American scientific community. Many had been longtime members of the Nazi party and the Gestapo, had conducted experiments on humans at concentration camps, had used slave labor, and had committed other war crimes. In a 1985 expose in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Linda Hunt wrote that she had examined more than 130 reports on Project Paperclip subjects--and every one "had been changed to eliminate the security threat classification." President Truman, who had explicitly ordered no committed Nazis to be admitted under Project Paperclip, was evidently never aware that his directive had been violated. State Department archives and the memoirs of officials from that era confirm this. In fact, according to Clare Lasby's book Operation Paperclip, project officials "covered their designs with such secrecy that it bedeviled their own President; at Potsdam he denied their activities and undoubtedly enhanced Russian suspicion and distrust," quite possibly fueling the Cold War even further. 

SNIP...

GENERAL REINHARD GEHLEN; It was five years after the end of WW2 but one of Hitler's chief intelligence officers was still on the job. From a walled-in compound in Bavaria, General Reinhard Gehlen oversaw a vast network of intelligence agents spying on Russia. His top aides were Nazi zealots who had committed some of the most notorious crimes of the war. Gehlen and his SS united were hired, and swiftly became agents of the CIA when they revealed their massive records on the Soviet Union to the US.

Gehlen derived much of his information from his role in one of the most terrible atrocities of the war: the torture, interrogation and murder by starvation of some four million Soviet prisoners. Prisoners who refused to cooperate were often tortured or summarily executed. May were executed even after they had given information, while others were simply left to starve to death. As a result, Gehlend and members of his organization maneuvered to make sure they were captured by advancing American troops rather than Russians, who would have executed them immediately. Two months before Germany surrendered in 1945, the Gehlen organization made its move. "Gehlen and a small group of his most senior officers carefully microfilmed the vast holding on the USSR in the military section of the German army's general staff. They packed the film in watertight steel drums and secretly buried it in a remote mountain meadow scattered throughout the Austrian Alps. General William Donovan and Allen Dulles of the CIA were tipped off about Gehlen's surrender and his offer of Russian intelligence in exchange for a job. The CIA was soon jockeying with military intelligence for authority over Gehlen's microfilmed records--and control of the German spymaster. Dulles arranged for a private intelligence facility in West Germany to be established, and named it the Geheln Organization. Gehlen promised not to hire any former SS, SD, or Gestapo members; he hired them anyway, and the CIA did not stop him. Two of Gehlen's early recruits were Emil Augsburg and Dr. Franz Six, who had been part of mobile killing squads, which killed Jews, intellectuals, and Soviet partisans wherever they found them. Other early recruits included Willi Krichbaum, senior Gestapo leader for southeastern Europe, and the Gestapo chiefs of Paris and Kiel, Germany.

With the encouragement of the CIA, Gehlen Org (Licio Gelli) set up "rat lines" to get Nazi war criminals out of Europe so they wouldn't be prosecuted. By setting up transit camps and issuing phony passports, the Gehlen Org helped more than 5,000 Nazis leave Europe and relocate around the world, especially in South and Central America. There, mass murderers like Klaus Barbie (the butcher of Lyons) helped governments set up death squads in Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, and elsewhere.

CONTINUED UNFORTUNATELY...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/operationpaperclip.htm
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