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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:49 PM
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Aside from Bush, who has been our worst president?
Ever.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:49 PM
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Tie - Reagan and Bush I
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:20 PM
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14. Grant?
Everyone left Grant off but, whoever comes in second, after four more years of the turd, second place will look good. I pine for Nixon (I never thought I'd say this). He was far more liberal than most Dems in office today.
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:49 PM
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1. um ...cheney?
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:50 PM
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2. Reagan, Nixon or Hoover
hard to pick.

I can't comment on pre WWI presidents due to some measure of ignorance on my part.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:51 PM
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3. Warren G Harding
was said to be the most corrupt. I'd say reagan is right up there too!
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:54 PM
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6. As Stephen Colbert (Daily Show) said
in their book. "His presidency was a taint, not just a stain, but literally a taint: the anatomical area between the anus and the testicles. I hate Warren G. Harding. Fuck him."

:D
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:53 PM
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4. Reagan was one of the worst for
the undoing regulations put in place to encourage fairness.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:53 PM
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5. No doubt - Harding.
Harding was unfit for office. He even said himself he was "in over his head and wish he never taken the job."

Corrupt administration: Teapot Dome
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM
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7. Ronald Reagan
My top five shitty presidents:

George W. Bush
Ronald Reagan
George H.W. Bush
Herbert Hoover
Warren Harding

I can't put Nixon on a list like this with a straight face anymore. Nixon was an evil man, but he wasn't nearly as corrupt as Hoover or Harding and the triumvirate of Reagan and the Bushes trumps all.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:15 PM
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13. I'd swap Harding and Hoover in that list
Harding was incompetent and corrupt. Hoover was just wrong, and waited far too long and did too little for the sudden crisis the stock market crash brought. He did try to lean on companies to provide welfare jobs. Companies balked (they always do) because they felt they'd have noplace to sell the increased goods and services. Remember, they look at the market before they produce anything. Hoover wasn't evil, he was just wrong in where he placed his faith.

As for Nixon, he did nearly as much good as evil, signing the EPA into existence, opening China, and cooling off the Cold War. An accurate person would have to call him a mixed bag who cared about his country and its people, but whose character flaw got in the way of it.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:37 PM
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26. Good Nixon points
China should have been his legacy. To bad he was such an unlikable man.

We should remember the social structure of the times as well, and not measure the past by today's moral standards.
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:56 PM
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8. My Top 10
Our worst presidents to me are:

Bush II (obviously)
Bush I
Harding
Hoover
Coolidge
Reagan
Taft
Polk
Buchanan
Jackson
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:45 PM
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21. good list but what about Grant
he was a better general
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:05 PM
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9. baby bush hands down....
and reagan comes in second.

poppy, coolidge, hoover, harding, and taft also get votes. at one point I would have included nixon but in light of his successors, he looks pretty good!
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:10 PM
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11. In terms of evil, these two Bush's are miles ahead of any other POTUS
:nuke:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:09 PM
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10. Reagan, then Poppy, Nixon, Coolidge, Harding, and Hoover
I knew a descendant of Harding's in school, actually
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:22 PM
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15. Was he right wing?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:37 PM
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20. she; I didn't know her alignment, seemed moderate
Harding was more like a summer squash than a right-winger or moderate
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:14 PM
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12. Millard Fillmore
He never gets mentioned for anything, so I thought I'd just throw his name out there. :D
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:26 PM
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16. Know-Nothing scumbag
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:26 PM
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17. Reagan
Undid 200 years of social progress with his economic policies.

Gave the global economic community a term that allows the discussion of people suffering abject poverty with the emotional impact of a political affiliation: "the homeless"
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:26 PM
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18. Raygun
He laid the groundwork for Bushers.
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:32 PM
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19. He wins
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:47 PM
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22. Quick stab at a ranking:
Bush II (of course)
Buchanan (doing his level best to do nothing, other than giving the Confederates the keys to various arsenals and supply warehouses)
Nixon (paranoia at home, carpet bombing and invasion abroad)
Reagan (opium dreams artfully packaged as Morning In America, eagerly consumed)
Grant (for at least 130 years his administration represented the gold standard of White House corruption)
Harding (Fat, drunk & stupid is no way to go through a presidency)
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:54 PM
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23. I'd have to go with Harding
In some ways he was like * - a cabal of unelected political fixers were powerful in his administration; his, or rather the fixers' obsession was $, lots of wheeling and dealing. Harding seemed mostly unaware of it, and was also said to be not very bright.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:05 PM
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24. Just 'cause I'm feeling especially contrary
at this particular moment, I'll make what will surely be a futile attempt to derail this thread, and say. . .

My favorite pres was William Henry Harrison.

He caught a cold during his inauguration whilst giving a long winded speech on an icy day and died a month later of pneumonia.

He truly did no wrong to anyone but himself. Then again, he may have done himsaelf an enormous favor.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:02 PM
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28. I swear,I didn't read your post before I posted mine below
Great minds think a like :toast:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:27 PM
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34. cheers
that's always been my most favorite of presidential oddities.
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:07 PM
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25. HOOVER
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:59 PM
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27. Experts say Warren G. Harding-I say William Henry Harrison
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 05:59 PM by Up2Late
O.K. Harding was ALMOST as corrupt as GWBush, But Billy H. Harrison, as we call him in S. Indiana (not really, i just made that up), Was so STUPID and Prideful, that he refused to ware his overcoat at his inauguration, got sick, lingered for 31 days, and Died. :nopity:

How can you beat a President who never actually did a days work as President before dying in office? :silly:
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:11 PM
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32. I dunno, that actually sounds pretty good right now
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Dark Secret Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:05 PM
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29. Harding
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Divine Ms Q Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:08 PM
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My top worst presidents:
James Buchanan - a do-nothing whose ineptitude helped to fuel the fire that led to the Civl War
Rutherford B. Hayes - another presidnet elected via fraud
Calvin Coolidge - Silent Cal...'nuff said
Herbert Hoover - need I say more?
Richard Nixon - again, need I say more?
Ronald Reagan
George HW Bush
...and, of course....Dubya himself!
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Divine Ms Q Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:08 PM
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30. Deleted - accidently posted twice n/t
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 06:09 PM by Divine Ms Q
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:08 PM
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31. Reagan
Even Nixon said that Reagan's economic policies were 'too uncompassionate'.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:13 PM
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33. Reagan
George the First

Nixon
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:29 PM
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35. 1. Chimp 2. Hoover 3. U.S. Grant
By my reckoning.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:35 PM
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36. Harding
Corrupt, incompetent, and openly law breaking.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:36 PM
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37. Toss up between Harding and Buchannan....probably, it's Buchannan...

His weakness was a catalyst for the Civil War.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:37 PM
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38. Bush I
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:44 PM
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39. Something interesting to point out
With the exception of Buchanan, isn't it interesting that ALL the names put forward so far have been REPUBLICANS?
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:50 PM
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40. Reagan.....because he was such a Svengali
After that...Hoover. Then Nixon, not because he was such a bad president, but because he was so machiavellian and corrupt.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:10 PM
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41. I have quite a few bad ones...
1. George Jr.
2. George Sr.
3. Ronald Raygun
4. Warren Harding
5. Richard Nixon
6. Franklin Pierce
7. James Buchanan
8. Rutherford B. Hayes
9. Calvin Coolidge
10. Zachary Taylor

Taft doesn't get a mention, mainly because of the fact that he knew he didn't want the Presidency and only ran because TR encouraged it. I'm too young to remember Eisenhower, and Gerald Ford from all accounts was a bumbler but a good person.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:43 PM
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42. James Buchanan
He did nothing while the South seceded and let Jefferson Davis move much of the federal arsenal to the south. He also used religious bigotry in an attempt to distract from the slavery issue by uniting the nation against the Mormons. Huh...he tried to start a bogus war to distract from our real problems. Maybe he was the first case of Wag the Dog.
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:06 PM
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43. Reagan
like bush, a moronic front man for right-wing interests. An insider posing as an outsider in Washington and with a sense of moral superiority proudly violated the law.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:27 PM
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44. George Washington
He destroyed what Johnny Appleseed created. Terrible.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:05 PM
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45. I don't know. Its such a drop off from this one
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