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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:39 PM
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Knock off my last thread: Who has been our best Republican president?
Lincoln?
Arthur?
Who?
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:40 PM
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1. Clinton was pretty good
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 08:40 PM by DireStrike
But overall? I dunno.
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evil genius Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:41 PM
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3. yeah! What he said!
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John_Shadows_1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:37 AM
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25. You beat me to it - Clinton....
... and they still hated his guts.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:41 PM
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2. LIncoln, therefore all the Good
repuks are dead lol
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:43 PM
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4. Lincoln and maybe Theodore Roosevelt...
Roosevelt was a little to imperialistic for my tastes but he did a lot for the environment as well as busting up all of those big corporate monopolies.

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:44 PM
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5. For me, it's a toss
between Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, who would have been a Democrat were he alive today. And he's the one who founded the national park system; he'd be beyond infuriated at what the repukes are doing to the national parks and the environment today.

Remember that 100 years ago, the party philosophies were reversed. The Republicans were like the liberal Democrats now and the Dems were like the RW Republicans, including being in the pocket of big business and corporations.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:02 PM
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15. Except McKinley
I think Bush has more in common with him than any other president.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:09 AM
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24. There are plenty of similarities
between McKinley and Bush, but I'd still take McKinley any day. NO prez has been anywhere near as bad as Bush, including Nixon.
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Smirking_Chimp Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:30 PM
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20. Very true!!! That's why when Zigzag Zell says his grandaddy
was a Dem and his daddy was a dem, they were probably as rightwing as they come. FDR made liberals flock to the dem party in the 30s and Nixon and Reagan locked it up for conservatives for the rethug party.
Woodrow Wilson was a supply sider, and a leader of the KKK.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:45 PM
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6. Lincoln tops the list, but Ike was OK.
"We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Dwight David Eisenhower -1961
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:52 PM
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12. The one left out
In his written speech he penned 'the military-industrial-congressional complex', but his advisors talked him into leaving off congressional. I think his rough draft was more true.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:33 PM
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21. Very interesting, thanks.
I didn't know that. Can the original text be found online anywhere? I'd like to see it.

-Laelth
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:46 PM
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7. Lincoln, Garfield and McKinley
all of whom proved their commitment to term limits.
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:46 PM
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8. Lincoln.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:49 PM
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9. Lincoln . . .
Of course, the parties have kind of switched places since then. Were he alive today, Lincoln would probably be a Democrat, or possibly even a Socialist.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:50 PM
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10. Theodore Roosevelt
That traitor to his class was a trust buster, ended the days of the Robber Barons, started the national park system and the whole conservation movement. Sure, he was a grandstanding publicity hound and a trophy hunter, but that was a product of his time. The changes he made to this country in the park system and in the antitrust laws he spearheaded have improved countless lives for a century.

Lincon? Lincoln was wrong. He should have just let Dixie GO. Think of how much more progressive our country would be without them.

Eisenhower was the last basically decent Repuglican president. Nixon was a mixed bag. The rest were all bidnessmen and no friends to the American people.
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mairceridwen Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:52 PM
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11. Lincoln
or Clinton


But probably Lincoln
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:57 PM
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13. TR and Lincoln
n/t
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:01 PM
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14. I Like Ike
but Lincoln would be my top choice.

But isn't Clinton a democrat?
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:16 PM
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16. You've all got it wrong
<s>Nixon by a longshot<s>
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:21 PM
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17. You sure know how to suck up to the original poster, don't you?
:)

-ZombieNixon
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:25 PM
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18. Lincoln, Taft (did what TR and Wilson were credited for, oddly), Roosevelt
Arthur, Hayes
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:26 PM
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19. NONE OF THEM...they are always "Big Business/Special Interest Whores."
But...that doesn't let our DEMOCRATS off the hook either. We've played a big part in much of what has corrupted our ideals from the "Founding Fathers (who were racist and sexist..but they didn't know it then) and we've only had our "GRASSROOTS" to show us the way to THE PEOPLE.\

Repugs, on the other hand...don't know there is anyone out there but their Corporatist/Globalist folks who've always had their hand in repressing ordinary folks by putting them in jobs where they would have their health and lives challenged with early death...and that Markets would rule over the poor folks trying to eek out a living not knowing when they will have a job (Let's bring Labor Bargaining into the discussion,here) and being always having to fight, riot or whatever to get the basics of care that many Corporate Americans consider their right...and well...all the rest of it is in Howard Zinn's Books. Just Google for Howard Zinn and how American citizens have been used and abused from our Native Americans to our Immigrants and the rest...it all will be revealed there.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:36 PM
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22. Is that a trick question?
Isn't the Republican party of Lincoln, the Democratic party of today?
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Mabeline Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:05 PM
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23. Who?
Don't ya have any more choices for us...
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