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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:17 AM
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Dean Person of the Year
I was thinking about who I thought should be person of the year this year. I think it should have been Howard Dean in that the magazine says that the person of the year is the person who changed the world the most whether for the good or for the bad. I think Dean did more than anyone to increase the number of people who voted in this year's election. He is also mainly responsible for shaking up the Democratic Party and getting it to really take on Bush. I realize that time would have bee blasted from both sides by picking Dean. The magazine would have been critized by Republicans for not picking Bush. The magazine would have been critized by the DLC in that they would have blamed the lose on Dean and people like him. However, I think Dean has done more than anyone this year to change the face of politics in America. He helped to bring in young people to the Democratic Party and to the voting polls. In addition, he helped the Democratic Party found a new way to raise money. So who do other members of DU think should have been person of the year?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:36 AM
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1. Here, Here !
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:04 PM
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2. If he had won one of the primaries or the general election, yes
but since he didn't, no.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:12 PM
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3. And the winner is.......he who controls the dialogue.
And he is doing that in many ways. At the DNC conference in Orlando, most of the other candidates for chair framed their stances in the light of what Howard Dean said. He had large crowds wherever he went.

The party is having to talk now about issues, and they are having to explain themselves more.

Oh, Dean did win VT, and 37 states never got to vote while he was still running....including the largest CA, NY, and FL. Sorry, but that is not losing at all. It just means that one small state chose the nominee essentially.



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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:25 PM
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4. Why?
What meaningful thing did he change? The Chimp is still President.

I choose Vladimir Putin for person of the year, for the same reasons that Time chose Adolf Hitler back in the day.

Please. Dean, despite all the noise he made, is a completely inconsequential figure.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:45 PM
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6. Why?
Why not Bush for the same reasons that Time chose Adolf Hitler?

Your statement about Dean is just far out. Kerry changed his positions on the war and other issues by the end of the campaign...and he used Dean's words exactly...the same words he used against him earlier.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:35 PM
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5. Lyndie England
That young lady changed the world, more than anyone else this past
year, hands down. Dean might have made some ripples in the political
US pool, but its hardly the world.

Lyndie, totally disgraced the US, totally, and until bush is dead
and planted in a forgotten grave in texas, the disgrace will live
with us all.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:25 PM
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7. Yeah,
I think Dean earned it. Others disagree. So be it.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:08 PM
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8. It should be Joe Trippi. He engineered the blogs and was the idea person.
I think he's the one who also came up with the idea to have many people send in $5 donations. Dean was the "front man."
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