Peak_Oil
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Mon Dec-20-04 03:27 AM
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1. Dismantle the Electoral College and have one citizen's vote count exactly the same as every other citizen's vote?
2. Establish representational representation? By that I mean that if 38% of the US votes for the Republican party, we have 38% of the HR and S from the Republican party, and 45% vote for the Democrats have a 45% representation in the HR and S, and 4% libertarian and 5% Green and 2% Constitutional and so on... Why is this so difficult?
3. I know this is a little radical, by why do we have a Senate again? What's the purpose of having a Senate instead of having a House of Representatives?
4. institute national runoff voting?
5. Count vote counting fraud the same as treason?
6. Make energy policy as important as... well... anything at all?
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Robbien
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Mon Dec-20-04 03:42 AM
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1. Isn't that the Canadian system |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 03:42 AM by Robbien
I guess all it would take is swapping the bars and stars with a big red maple leaf.
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Hippo_Tron
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Mon Dec-20-04 03:54 AM
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2. The constitution was written to not have a system like this |
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What you speak of is what the founders describe as "mob rule", where 51% have absolute power with almost no checks and balances. George Washington was faced with the question of why we need a Senate as he was pouring Coffee into a saucer to cool it. He replied, "we pour legislation into the Senate to cool it."
I agree that the electoral college should be dismantled, as it is an old and outdated system and I agree that there definately needs to be reform in the way that members of the House are elected but I think that with the exception of the Supreme Court, the Senate is the most fundamentally important institution to democracy. The Senate allows the minority to have a voice and to prevent the ruling party from passing legislation that is too extreme. Things under Bush are pretty bad now, if there were no Senate and no fillibusters (which there may be very soon), they would be much worse.
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Peak_Oil
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:10 AM
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3. Just curious. Why not have mob rule? |
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I'm one of the mob. I'm definitely one of the Many, not one of the Few. As far as I can tell, the Mob is the People. Unless you don't trust the electorate, why wouldn't you want mob rule?
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Hippo_Tron
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:05 PM
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4. It's not that I don't trust the mob, the framers didn't |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 02:06 PM by Hippo_Tron
Well, at least I trust the mob more than they did. Part of the reason not to trust the mob is to have safeguards so that the mob can't take away the rights of individuals, the right to privacy for example.
Again, I think that the people are more equipped to make decissions much better than they were in 1789 so I would be all in favor of getting rid of the electoral college and some sort of reform in the way that we elect the House of Representatives. However, I still believe that the minority needs a voice and thus, the US Senate is too important of an institution to do away with.
Oh yea, and the other reason that the system you mention wasn't written intot he constitution, is because political parties were never written into the constitution, as Washington and other founders were against them.
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