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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:45 PM
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Poll question: Staying The Bloody, Illegal Course
Question for all DUers who said we must remain in Iraq until "elections" are held so we can "leave": does the following information cause you to realize that's a fantasy that will not happen?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1410635,00.html

At his end-of-year news conference at the White House, Mr Bush said he expected the parliamentary elections to go ahead, but warned Americans that they were just "the beginning of a process".

"No question about it. The bombers are having an effect," Mr Bush said. "They're trying to shake the will of the Iraqi people and frankly trying to shake the will of the American people.

"I’m confident that the terrorists will fail, the elections will go forward, and Iraq will be a democracy that reflects the values and traditions of its people."

But he added: "The elections in January are the beginning of a process and it is important for the American people to understand that...I don't express that process to be trouble-free."


Now that it's obvious there is no real intention of getting out anytime soon, have you changed your mind on continuing the illegal occupation of a country that didn't threaten us?

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:57 PM
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1. "We are a country that respects the rule of law."
My ass.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:11 PM
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2. And yet, despite everything, we have YES votes.
Whatever kind of thinking propelled those votes is the same kind that dragged Viet Nam out for so long, and got MILLIONS killed.

Hope you like the blood on your hands, you anti-invasion/pro-occupation HYPOCRITES.

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:55 PM
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7. People are loath to believe
the halls of power are as corrupt and deluded as they obviously are.

Or that catastrophic policy is entirely misguided.

But, I don't get it.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:11 PM
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3. We aren't fooling anyone, you know.
They see where our focus is, and they all know it: OIL, OIL, OIL.

If we DON'T get out pretty damned quick, we can just about chalk it up and off. We spend around a half $TRILLION all told every year on "Defense," and NO ONE is trying to land here.

Just who do we think we're kidding?
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:58 PM
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8. It's not just oil. There's big bucks being made from the war machine.
War is always the salvation Republican administrations turn to.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:13 PM
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4. Dennis was right.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:14 PM
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5. Perhaps it is worth staying if it saves Iran and Syria
Since the Republican party strongly identified with the reasons for going to war someone untainted like Feingold could run on a no military quagmire platform in 2008 and have the voting record to support it.

(I didn't vote in the poll)
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:02 PM
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9. I say build bridges, not bombs.
Foisting our will around the planet fuels war, not peace or "freedom".

If the money we spent on war was spent in humanitarian ways, nobody would hate us.

As long as we disrespect the sovereignty and self-determination of other lands and cultures, we will be seen as a villain. And rightly so.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:36 PM
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6. Lots of votes, few replies.
Perhaps some are afraid that I'll snarl at them for having supported staying in. Let me just assure you, that won't happen (assuming you no longer want us to stay).

If you DO want us to stay...I can't possibly see how you can justify such a stance, especially with this newest evidence of upcoming deceit by the b*sh administration.

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:04 PM
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10. People are afraid to speak from the heart.
That should tell you something about Bush-style "freedom".
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:24 PM
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11. Kick
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