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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:19 PM
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Im thinking about NOT voting anymore.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 09:29 PM by nickshepDEM
Well not really but Im getting pissed off thinking about all of the possible ways that the vote could be stolen using these electronic voting machine.

I just have a couple of questions and maybe you guys can help me out.


Do you really think it is possible to program or install a program on these voting machines to add or change votes?

Do you think congress will honestly address this issue before 2006? I mean, Im to the point were I dont feel as if my vote is even being counted or will ever be counted on these damn machines.

Do you think we will have a paper trail and certification of our votes by 2006?

Why isnt the media liberal or conservative asking why the voting machines software are not open source and not regulated by the government? Why has the government aloud these machines to even bee used? Why are they not regulated?

Am I over-reacting about NOT voting anymore? I mean whats the point if someone at the board of elections cannot prove to me my vote was counted. Because hey, I live in Maryland and all we use is electronic voting machines.
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billie_ Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:22 PM
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1. if they don't get a verified voting system with a paper trail
i won't vote again....period!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:23 PM
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2. Vote anyway.
It is getting harder for me to tell people how their votes will count.

All I can say is that you are guaranteed not to have your vote counted if you don't vote. If you do vote, maybe there is a chance. That's the best I can do.

Possible to program those machines? Why not? We may be doomed, but vote anyway.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:26 PM
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3. The only thing between us and democracy
Is how much you trust a few corporate republican ideologues who own the voting machine companies.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:27 PM
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4. Maybe if all the Dems
Got absentee ballots and photocopied them before sending them in then there would be a paper trail.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:31 PM
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5. the paper trails are nothing more than a marketing ploy to get you to feel
secure. It's a role of paper that has to be unrolled in order to even try to verify and they won't be unrolling it to make sure they give us an honest election, just if we challenge them. So the cross referencing process is shaky at best following an election.

I won't be voting in Nevada again. I really want to move, but it looks like it would have to be to another nation.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:40 PM
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7. Lot's of room up here
More land than the U.S. and fewer people than California :hi:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:37 PM
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6. according to federal voting law, the recount Must be witnessed.. that cant
happen without a hard paper trail to count so the machines with ho paper trail are illegal
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:53 PM
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8. Damn shame.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:57 PM
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9. Perhaps this whole 'stolen election' thing is just a ruse by Rove to
trick liberals into think that present and future election are unwinable, causing them not to participate in the electoral process.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:05 PM
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10. Nah, the trick's in the stealing.
If they've got that, they don't give a damn what we think.

So we have to work on exposing and stopping the stealing.
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Earl Ham Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:07 PM
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11. im 14
and therefore im still thinking about voting but since my vote would be black boxed any ways it might not be worth it whats your opinion
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:10 PM
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12. I think you should still register to vote and vote.
Im just complaining. Its not fair that our government is allowing this to happen. The machines should be regulated by the government. Numerous tests by the government should be done on these machines before each and every election to ensure they are casting the vote for the correct candidate. PERIOD.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:24 PM
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13. Not Voting
I'm seriously considering not voting anymore.

I'm beginning to wonder: what is the point? It's obvious that Republicans have perfected the art of stealing elections, and Democrats don't seem to know the meaning of "opposition party," and they won't stand up and demand all the votes be counted.

Moreover, we have lost any sense of checks and balances in this country. The right wingers run every single branch of government.

So, what are we fighting for now?
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:43 PM
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14. Gain back control?
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 10:44 PM by nickshepDEM
But, we can not do that untill we insure that every American has his or her vote counted. Why did we ever change to these electronic voting machines if the ways of voting before this were not as controversial.
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