The RW cries of "We must save Christmas" is just another step towards...

[ck4829]

Dominion.

I had made a post once showing evidence that the Christian Right may become increasingly militant.

I don't mean 'militant' as in shoot an abortion doctor here, blow up a clinic here. (Although I believe doing these things does make a person militant)

Militant as in Genocidal, killing non-Believers, stifling dissent, it is that type of violence I believe the Christian Right is slowly marching towards.

Early on, in the signs to watch out for Genocide, the people who want Genocide will rally people for support. This has come in 'waves', that have taken place over and over again. The style and definition of these waves make it appear as though the Conservative Christians in this country are being persecuted or their rights are being trampled on.

Some examples of these 'waves' include: The Controversy surrounding the 10 Commandments Monument, the Federal Marriage Amendment, the 'we vote values' campaign, the Stop-the-ACLU movement, and now this 'we must save Christmas from the Godless Liberals' movement.

Be warned - This might be one of the last few waves, then the Extremists will start to come out of the woodwork.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. Let them

Everyone I talk to seems to think that they are downright ridiculous with this. Most people have enough sense to see through their paranoid, hateful, self-serving bullshit.

[FormerDittoHead]

This is why we're losing the South

>Everyone I talk to seems to think that they are downright ridiculous with this. Most people have enough sense to see through...

This is why we lost the last election. We don't take them seriously enough to respond to.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

5. Go ahead and respond

IMHO, this is one thing that is better just to let them talk themselves into being obviously ridiculous.
"Never get into an argument with an idiot. First they take you down to their level, then they beat you with experience."

[MemphisTiger]

11. Exactly, they have thier act together and, here's the kicker,

they are united, unlike us. We need to treat them as a formidable foe and stop writing them off as a bunch of wing-nuts

[JHB]

16. We take it seriously, we just disagree as to what's important about it

The current "take back Christmas" is an engineered "2-minute hate".

That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people nodding their heads in agreement, just that WE could have those same heads nodding in agreement to better impulses if we had a "noise machine" that was even a tenth as pervasive as the Republicans' one.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Yeah. Talk about your media blitz...

"Liberals are taking Christ out of Christmas! Waaaaaah!"

Give me a f*cking break. Capitalism took Christ out of Christmas a long-ass time ago. What you are witnessing is reflexive post-election flailing of the people who run the country, yet paradoxically derive their power and energy from constantly playing at being victimized by "liberal oppression".

BTW, "engineered 2-minute hate".. Excellent.

[bowens43]

6. I disagree.

I think that most people do NOT see through it. I think that most people agree with them. Not just on this issue but on all of the god issues.

[chelsea0011]

2. this "save Xmas" movement is hilarious

It shows that they have one agenda....a Christian Nation where others will not be tolerated.

[sui generis]

3. that's okay - I'd rather have them out of the woodwork

than hiding behind my back.

As a society we can only reach "revulsion" with an idea when it forces itself upon you and changes your life in a fundamental way. Remember "genocide" implies that the victim group is relatively detached from the political, military and police.

Not so in America - it would be absolutely impossible to "round up liberals" and destroy them for violating the moral police militia. We are government, judges, police, marines, national guard, farmers, lawyers, NRA members, neighbors, and most of all real Americans.

But showing their faces like that, artificially emboldened to find "ze final zolution" to the liberal is exactly what we need to see in order to get rid of them, using the law, like a doctor cuts a tumor out of a cancer patient.

[bowens43]

4. I agree with you 100%.

It isn't Islamic fundamentalists that we have to worry about, it's Christian fundamentalists. They can destroy our country from within. They , from a seat of power, can take away our freedom and create a theocracy every bit as evil and vile as that of the Taliban. At most Islamic fundamentalists can kill a few of us, Christian fundamentalists can kill our Constitution.

[ucmike]

8. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other.

Christian fundamentalists, islamic extremists.

same animal, different stripes. difference is that christians live more comfortably and use lawyers instead of carbombs. oh yeah, and the christian media campaigns have better production values.

[theblasmo]

7. Agreed

Yes, although the beginnings of this activity can be traced to the Reagan administration's use of the "some people belong in America, and some do not" approach to politics. Next time someone complains about being a "persecuted Christian", or that they can't do what she/he wants to because they're a Christian, ask them what the chances are that a non-Christian could be elected President here. They're exactly zero, which should help prove to them just how "persecuted" they are. Seriously, this could be dangerous. I don't think it's just one of those religious revivals America has every fifty years or so. This is a consolidation of power we may not be able to overcome without some major screw ups by the current administration -- screw ups so huge they actually cause these people to stop and think. Let's hope America can survive the assault.

[ucmike]

9. how is everyone "persecuted"

jews, christians, muslims, all showing up claiming that they are the ones being persecuted and attacked. if all the major religions are being persecuted who is doing the persecuting? (besides us anti-american secular democrats)

must be those damn taoists...or the amish.

[Inland]

10. Of course, the christians have lost christmas

but to the commercial forces, who find that santa and secular traditions sell more than Jesus. But the conservatives aren't going to take on the materialism of this society, it being the funding source of Bush et al. So instead, they pretend that the real cause of their distress is that Jew who isn't having a Merry Christmas.

[salin]

12. local LTTE today refered to:

Sepearation of Christianity and State... their reframing of constitutional issues - in an attempt to pave the way for the fight to make an extremist (and non Christ-based) theology the basis for our government - astounds me. They are getting much bolder than just "our founding fathers were "Christian"... To ... "It was never a question of resisting a govt tied to a church...."

On talk radio (Christian) I recently heard a similar meme... see the question wasn't about whether or not church should have a place in govt - it was that they couldn't decide on WHICH denomination should get top billing... (wtf?!)

[Deja Q]

13. Odd. They ruined it by commercializing it.

RW supports the corporate creeps far more than any other party (except for one aspect of the Democractic party).

They want things both ways, it seems. And that's as rational as Pee wee's playhouse being real. (the truth was, only Paul Reubens's hand was real. And in the wrong place at the wrong time...)

[nascarblue]

14. You got to watch this....

Check out this documentary that was made on the religious right and their militant moves in politics. It is very creepy how all this stuff predicted 15 years ago has and is coming true. You will learn alot from this. I think its the best doc I've seen all year.



http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/liberty.wmv

[Gyre]

15. christian wingnuts w/ guns

Why should they actually start shooting? They own all the branches of government already. What more do they want? Purification of jeebusland? That might lead to some uncomfortable consequences.

While we're at it WHY are all the bitches who off children in particularly heinous ways always described as "good christian women"?

Jest venting. Sorry.

Gyre