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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:37 PM
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Tucker Carlson moving to MSNBC - about to sign deal


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/archive/2004_12_19_archive.asp


Exclusive: MSNBC's Talking To Tucker: CNN's Carlson Set To Sign Deal & Replace Norville At 9pm

Only on TVNewser: MSNBC is close to signing a deal with CNN's Tucker Carlson, paving the way for the conservative Crossfire co-host to fill the 9:00pm primetime position soon to be vacated by Deborah Norville.

MSNBC staffers have been buzzing about the possibility in recent days, three sources told TVNewser. One insider speculated that Carlson's program would attract new viewers to the network, but more importantly, "it shows that MSNBC is a priority and folks are trying their darndest to make it work."

Carlson feels that CNN hasn't treated him well, a source said. MSNBC executives, on the other hand, are thrilled by the guy in the bow tie.

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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:39 PM
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1. CNN will probably get Ron Silver to replace him
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 12:39 PM by Khephra
:puke:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:54 PM
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9. Isn't he the guy that made all of those porn movies?
:shrug:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:39 PM
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2. Who Would Replace Him On Crossfire?
or will that evil fuck Novak do double duty? What'll happen to Norville? What about Tucker's show on PBS?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:49 PM
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6. They could replace him with a sack of manure and a bowtie. n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:05 PM
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11. If They Wanted To Upgrade
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:40 PM
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3. One more reason not to watch MSRNC
Why don't they outsource his job to India?
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:08 PM
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14. whats the diff between msnbc and msrnc. i don't watch either of them
except kieth olbermann
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:42 PM
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4. Scarborough AND Tucker Carlson? Do they just want to guarantee
half of the population won't watch their shows?

I completely understand because at that time there isn't any other RW nut jobs on TV to watch - only Hannity!

What fools!
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:46 PM
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5. The left doesn't watch cable news.
They would have nothing to gain by signing a progressive, or even a middle of the roader. Their audience consists mainly of the sheeple who support *. They have to appeal to the base in order to sell the products in the commercials.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:01 PM
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10. The left doesn't watch cable news because
there isn't much to watch.

Most of us here watch The Daily Show and Countdown. Most of us watched Donahue, and his show was the highest-rated show on MSNBC, but they canceled it anyway. If MSNBC had given Ron Reagan his own show, we'd be watching that too. tucker's show is just another reason to conserve energy by keeping the T.V. turned off.

MSNBC can KMA.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:31 PM
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25. I think a lot of people would love to have something to watch that wasn't
completely one-sided for the RW.

I think they are making a big mistake.

The next four years are going to be all about Bush's screw ups and scandals. They are avoiding that gravy train by taking this route.

Maybe, it is just GE protecting their financial interests in keeping the RW in power.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:50 PM
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7. They should have hired Begalia instead of Carlson
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 12:51 PM by 8_year_nightmare
if their aim is to attract new viewers. Carlson doesn't draw the "Crossfire" viewers -- it has been Begalia's amazing ability for witty, in-your-face comments that have drawn in the CF viewers back when it was believed we still had a democracy. Now that a second presidential election was maneuvered by the worst president in history, MSNBC thinks the Republicans have a mandate & they've hired the wrong talking head. Democrats are staying away from news shows like the plague because the election has left a bad taste in their mouths & the media has been an enabler of this administration's dirty business. That's more than half the viewing potential lost because they cater to this administration.

Carlson will NOT bring in new viewers (or is their aim to steal viewers from Faux News?).
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evil genius Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:51 PM
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8. who gives a rat's ass
there's what? a couple hundred thousand people that watch these shows? And they're all whack jobs. I'd rather give birth to a flaming procupine than watch that pablum. What time does the Sopranos come on?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:06 PM
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12. LOL, another article references us. :)
"Carlson: MSNBC's 1st Truly Balanced Primetime

Upon reading TVNewser's exclusive report that MSNBC is courting CNN's Tucker Carlson to replace Deborah Norville, both extremes of the political spectrum sounded angry. Free Republic posters called him the "liberal's idea of what a conservative should be," while Democratic Underground posters shuddered at the thought of "two right-wingers on MSNBC's prime time lineup."

But that's the point. Carlson would be the final cog in a truly balanced primetime -- and for the first time, MSNBC's lineup would seamlessly flow from one show to the next."

....


"This is a conservative who actually publicly predicted John Kerry's victory," the Ucorrelated blog says. "Not exactly a 'red-state' kind of guy is he?," he writes. But again, that's the point. MSNBC's lineup features Chris Matthews, a host who leans Democratic but attacked Clinton; Keith Olbermann, who hosts the smartest hour in primetime; and Joe Scarborough, a registered Republican who isn't afraid to criticize his own party.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/archive/2004_12_20_archive.asp#110352231088978054
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:12 PM
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17. "liberal's idea of what a conservative should be,"
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 01:17 PM by sonicx
i don't know of any liberals that like Tucker, but i know conservatives that like Alan Colmes.

as for the other shows:

Matthew - bi-polar host with more conservative-than-liberal guests
Olbermann - straight news show with left leading humor
Joe Scarborough - right winger with right wing guests

balance my ass
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:16 PM
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21. Colmes has my respect,
because he just goes on there and gets the crap beat out of him and keeps on doing it. I couldn't do that without killing someone.

That said, I usually make it about 5 minutes into any one show before I turn it off. His radio show's the same way: "it's beat up Colmes time!"
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evil genius Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:01 PM
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24. liberal's idea of what a conservative should be
Dead? Buried alive? Burning in a house fire? Caught on tape violating a goat?
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:14 PM
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18. Such crap...
Matthews "leans Democratic" and stacks every panel chock full of Right Wing talking heads. What BS.

They tried to play Scarborough off as balanced on his ads but the reality is that jerk off is MSNBC's version of Bill O'Reilly. I think I would crap myself if he didn't spend one show attacking liberal hollywood.

Poor Keith. He's trying to be a journalist while MSNBC stacks the deck full of right wing pundits to pass off as news.

Rp
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:07 PM
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13. ...
I think I'm gonna puke. :puke:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:18 PM
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22. Rather have Norville than a Repuke Nazi.........
Carlson, with his stupid baby bow tie---Another ASSHOLE FOR SHRUB.


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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:11 PM
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16. Does that mean CNN has turned too Conservative for even Tuck?...OR
is MSNBC turning more 'Right?' Didn't MSNBC recently hire two Fox anchors?
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:15 PM
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19. Media Matters just sent this out, BTW
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 01:18 PM by MessiahRp
MSNBC reportedly considering serial misinformer Tucker Carlson for primetime slot

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412210003

CNN and PBS host Tucker Carlson is reportedly negotiating with MSNBC for the 9 p.m. show slot Deborah Norville is vacating in mid-January, mediabistro.com's TVNewser weblog reported December 19. USA Today also reported December 19: "There's talk that conservative CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker Carlson could replace Norville in the time slot." But given Carlson's track record of misinformation, MSNBC should think twice before hiring him to host a primetime show.

Media Matters for America has documented Carlson's distortions and false statements.

He has:

provided a misleading account of Social Security's "solvency," bolstering the Bush administration's alarmist rhetoric on the federal program;

ridiculed Canada, using stereotypes and misinformation while addressing Canadian Member of Parliament Carolyn Parrish;

echoed the conservative claim that Bush's re-election constituted a decisive mandate for his agenda;

distorted the content of a Democratic National Committee Election Day manual in order to claim that the Democratic Party's official policy is to baselessly allege that Republicans are engaging in voter intimidation, when the manual does no such thing;

wrongly claimed that "nobody prevented anyone from voting" in Florida during the 2000 presidential election, saying that the reason thousands of voters were purged from Florida's voter lists prior to the election was "because they were convicted felons."

The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights contradicted that claim in its June 2001 report titled "Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election";

and falsely claimed that former President Bill Clinton called Republicans "wackos" in his speech to the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Media Matters has also noted Carlson's inflammatory remarks.


He has:

-stated that "grouchy feminists with mustaches" control the Democratic Party;

-equated homosexuality with adultery;

-compared Democratic efforts to track racial data to those practiced by Heinrich Himmler, Nazi Germany's Gestapo head and Schutzstaffel, or SS, chief;

and

-disparaged feminists and the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community.



In June, when PBS announced that Carlson would host Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered, Media Matters noted Carlson's history of misquoting people and misrepresenting positions. Carlson made a name for himself writing for the conservative magazine The Weekly Standard, which is edited by William Kristol (Carlson is currently on the masthead as a contributing editor). In a May 19, 1997, Weekly Standard cover story titled "The Real Al Gore," Carlson doctored Gore's words to cast him as a "fanatic." Media Matters has also noted the lies Carlson told about Senator Paul Wellstone's memorial service.

Carlson is the author of the book Politicians, Partisans and, Parasites: My Adventures in Cable News, published in 2003 by Warner Books -- which is owned by CNN's parent company, Time Warner. He is also a former staff writer at the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette; has been a columnist for New York magazine and Reader's Digest; and is a regular contributor to Esquire.


Contact:
MSNBC viewerservices@msnbc.com
MSNBC TV
One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus, N.J. 07094

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:15 PM
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20. And to think that idiot Pat Mitchell at PBS...
...gave him his own show on PBS so that he would have more opportunities and not just be limited to CNN. Only in the brain of Pat Mitchell could having one's own nightly TV show be viewed as a sign that one is struggling with one's career and access to the airwaves. :eyes: And I thought Carlson's whole career was the triumph of connections over weak academic performance.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:48 PM
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23. Too true
Love the dry wit!
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