Congressman Ron Paul "Police State Now"

[Wiley50]

It may be true that average Americans do not feel intimidated by the encroachment of the police state. Americans remain tolerant of what they see as mere nuisances because they have been deluded into believing total government supervision is necessary and helpful, and because they still enjoy a high level of material comfort. That tolerance may wane, however, as our standard of living falls due to spiraling debt, endless deficit spending at home and abroad, a declining fiat dollar, inflation, higher interest rates, and failing entitlement programs. At that point attitudes toward omnipotent government may change, but the trend toward authoritarianism will be difficult to reverse.

Those who believe a police state can't happen here are poor students of history. Every government, democratic or not, is capable of tyranny. We must understand this if we hope to remain a free people.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst122004.htm

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. I may not agree with much that Ron Paul says

or his politics, but there are days he is right on the money... I wonder if Delay will discipline him though.

[Hippo_Tron]

11. I'm sure DeLay's already issued several death threats...

I wouldn't be surprised if Ron Paul mysteriously disappears sometime soon.

[MadHound]

25. I'm with you on this, and even more suprising

Is that his days are getting ever more frequent. The man is speaking out on issues that Dems are afraid to even whisper about.

Along those same lines, I have, to my utter astonishment, found myself agreeing with the columnist Charlie Reese more and more. Five years ago my wife could always tell when I was reading him, for I would be screaming about that "damn RW fascist" etc etc. Now she can tell when I'm reading him because she hears the "thunk" as my jaw hits the floor.

Strange times when such radically divergent people actually start agreeing with each other on a regular basis, eh. Perhaps it has less to do with political affiliation and more to do with intelligence.

[GetTheRightVote]

2. thank you for this post, interesting since it is his party starting it

Glad to know that there are some good guys on the other side of the river.

[GOPisEvil]

10. Remember Ron Paul is really a Libertarian in Republican clothes.

He was even the Libertarian candidate for President at one point. But, to win an election, he had to be an elephant.

[secedeeconomically]

3. Bread and Circus my friend. The Romans perfected it and

the Repugs are mastering

[msgadget]

34. You really think so?

You don't believe that many of their party have been waiting for the second term to say what they really believe? Many are probably considering throwing their hats into the ring and Paul isn't really a conservative, as has been pointed out, but a libertarian with GOP leanings?

I think of McCain as the bread and circus guy more than Paul.

[jesusq]

4. Let the Chimp try to take our guns, oh please, please, please!

Our Commander and Chimp has the advantage of a fiercely local evangelical cult following. I think it is no accident that Christ refereed (lovingly) to his followers as sheep. They will cheer the chimp for every American freedom he prunes as "national security" deems necessary. I just hope and pray he goes after the 2nd amendment, because that will be the day the honeymoon ends. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, JUST TRY TO TAKE OUR GUNS!

[OffWithTheirHeads]

7. So, I've been thinking about buying a gun

What do you like and why?

I want something that is accurate at distance and has reasonable stopping power. I don't want it for hunting as I will not kill innocent creatures. I want it to stop people.

[JanMichael]

14. Here.

Never used YUGO SKS 7.62x39 cal M59 rifle.



Buy them just about anywhere but here's a cheap site:

http://atlanticfirearms.com/rifles/ak47/ak47.html

[femme.democratique]

8. Thats the kinda thing that'd start a revolution.....

[TexasChick]

9. Yes. I'm just wondering if ever we will be in a civil war a couple of

years down the road? I wonder when Americans (even the Chimp followers) will say enough!

[MsConduct]

5. I've seen this coming since the 2000 'election'. And they say

ignorance is bliss. Ignorance should be a sin.

[classof56]

13. Well, as Orwell said: Ignorance is Strength.

He also said War is Peace and Slavery is Freedom. But then...that was 1984, right?

I agree with you, BTW. Ignorance actually should be a venal sin. Is that the one for which there is no forgiveness? If so, then yeah, that's what it should be.

Tired Old Cynic

[MsConduct]

18. Being a recovering Catholic, I don't remember any sins

except for the mortal ones. Ignorance could be a mortal one. Those are the kind that send you straight to hell, i think. Sometimes I feel pretty old and tired myself-LOL

[classof56]

31. Thanks for catching this one.

As the spouse of an ex-Catholic, I should have asked about "venal"--or looked it up in the dictionary. Has something to do with bribery, I guess, another kind of sin. Anyway, if ignorance not always a mortal sin, there are times when it surely should be, especially now. A friend of ours who's a Catholic priest just left this morning after a visit. I should have asked him about this. Myself, I'm a recovering Baptist. Never thought I'd say that, but after this election...well, I'm just getting more cynical all the time!

Best wishes for a happy holiday season!

TOC

[MsConduct]

35. The harder I pray, it seems the worse things get. It's hard to keep...

any kind of faith when everything seems to be so evil. This country seems to be on the fast road to Hell.

You have a great holiday season too!



Peace & Joy

[mikelewis]

6. Blah blah blah

That's all they hear. Everyone thinks that they must know, but maybe they don't. Maybe they are men who refuse to see. Maybe, like the rest of us, we don't want to believe.


And then to be charged with the task of setting things right when you finally realize your mistake, the fear that must inspire. I am very impressed by this mans words. I hope it can pierce the veil of self-inflicted blindness so many others choose to endure. Welcome to the Truth Movement Mr. Congressman.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[InvisibleBallots]

12. I disagree with Ron Paul on most issues

but I do consider him to be an honest conservative/libertarian, unlike most Republicans, which are not an honest anything.

[Melodybe]

24. Paul is awesome, he was against the war and the New Freedom commission

Only one democrat voted for his lets parents raise their kids act, at the moment he is one of my favorite politicians, sorry that so many here hate him just cause he runs as a repub.

[PurityOfEssence]

15. The why the fuck are you a Republican? Why not caucus with the Dems?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but to have run as a Republican in Texas, you were required to pledge yourself to stating that our laws come from Jesus Christ, and that you advocate the abolition of damn near every regulatory agency in the government.

Paul's right on very many things, but at its heart, Libertarianism is just another form of selfishness, and he's made his pact with the devil.

If he could sway his brothers in the "libertarian caucus" to cross the aisle, we could probably control the House tomorrow. Fat chance of that, though, because even though he hates governmental encroachment on his privacy, he'd much rather endure that than join the goddam human race and take responsibility for his fellow man.

Libertarians are adolescents; they're an example of arrested development at the best, and selfish so-and-sos at the worst.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

16. This should be read by everyone

[NAO]

17. I voted for Ron Paul (Libertarian) for President in 1988

WooHoo! I had the bumper sticker too.

I used to be a hardcore Libertarian, until I realized that economic coercion, although subtle, was a much greater threat to individual liberty and personal fulfillment than any overt physical coercion.

Anyway, I'll always be somewhat sympathetic toward Libertarians, although I do believe they are missing the real threat from economic coercion.

[RBHam]

19. Ron Paul tells like it is...

He's always had doubts about the 9-11 "official" story...

[magellan]

20. Ron Paul was the one who explained neoconism to me

I had no flippin' idea what it really was -- or the threat it poses -- before I read his speech to the House in July 2003. Check it out if you haven't read it:

Neo-conned!

[nascarblue]

21. its already happening. torture chambers, corporate control over media

They've been turning up the jets on this ever since 9-11. The whole "terrorism" stigma is nothing more than a McCarthy tactic to control us and strip away our rights. I could spend an hour listing all the examples, but I think you guys know. Those who don't, don't want to know. They change the channel.

Watch the 1986 CNN Crossfire with Zappa vs. the same rightwing(nuts) that are around today.
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2658805

What's sad is you never see a true intelligent left-winger able to voice his or her complete opinion on TV today. A sad reminder of how we've been asleep at the wheel.

[Disturbed]

22. Libertarian

I don't agree with their economic concepts but do agree with them about their concepts of civil liberties.

[rman]

26. i must insist to point out

that there is such a thing as left-wing libertarian and right-wing libertarian (simplified but true) - just saying "libertarian" without qualification doesn't really say anything.

[arkie dem]

27. My guess is,

Ron Paul is a RW Libertarian. Wasn't he the poster boy for the RW Militia Movement?

[Bridget Burke]

28. "poster boy for the RW Militia Movement" ?

Hardly. Since you brought up the topic, please supply proof.

I only vote for Democrats but he's saner than most Republicans.

[arkie dem]

30. Well ,Bridget if I knew for sure I would not have been asking

the question...!!!

I do have a friend who is an active member in a local RW militia (yuk), who thinks the sun rises and sets in Ron Pauls ass.

Hell , I only vote for Dems also, what does that prove???

[arkie dem]

33. Check out

www.truthnews.com

Some other familiar names you might recognize. Read all about Ron Paul, and see how much he agrees with Liberals, Democrats, and Progressives.

[Vidar]

23. Nice to hear a few dissenting voices on the right.

[indepat]

29. Is BF's quip that those willing to give up liberty for a little security

will soon have neither materializing before our very eyes?

[0007]

32. Very interesting coming from this source, 'eh?