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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:58 PM
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Bush is using islam the way hitler used the jews... demonize that which
you don't understand -- or simply don't like -- in order to 'save' your people(americans) from the 'evil ones' (muslims) in order to appear to be a hero....

That JUST sunk in... thoughts? comments?

Further illumination?

Dang. It IS coming.

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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:12 PM
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1. I don't think anybody wants to talk about this.
:scared:
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:14 PM
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2. The demonization of Arabs has been going on
at least since the oil embargo in the '70s. The Islamic Revolution that began in Iran only added fuel to the fire even though Iranians are Persian not Arab. They all got lumped into "ragheads and sand n*****s" that were depriving America of cheap gas thus endangering our pampered way of life.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:15 PM
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3. It's not just Bush. Many "liberals" are given to doing the same thing.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:18 PM by durutti
Just take a look at any number of posts on this site. (I won't name names.) Often they're more subtle about it, though.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:49 PM
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9. well, they're just falling for it...
I mean an entire nation in europe did, right? Germany?
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:19 PM
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4. Also, note how Muslims have been racialized.
It's interesting to note that Muslims have become "racialized" in a manner similar to Jews. People speak as if there's a Muslim "race". I saw a headline the other day that included the word "Muslim-Americans".
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:19 PM
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5. dupe
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:20 PM by durutti
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:26 PM
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6. Scapegoating is what it's called.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:28 PM by Cleita
In a lesser way they are doing the same to Democrats by calling liberals immoral and evil thereby associating that to Democrats. This could be a reason many Democrats claim to be moderates. A political philosophy shouldn't be something that you should be afraid to wear on your T-shirt and nowadays I am feeling that way.

On edit, I didn't mean to change the subject, it's just that scapegoating is exactly that. Although, Hitler's main target was Jews, he also didn't like Slavs or gypsies. I wonder what he would have done if he ever met an African?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:43 PM
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7. Yes, as the former poster said it's "Scapegoating." Designed to give
us all an "Enemy" which the Repugs have been up to since WWII aftermath. They seized on the "Cold War" and made it their own, along with Blacks, ACLU Members, Hollywood, Media and now Democrats.

Their Hate Campaign has been awfully sucessful. Which makes one wonder about American values doesn't it. Seems there really are "TWO Americas" one who cares about the Religious/Political Freedoms our ancestors came here for...and the rights of Minorities including Blacks, Women and others to have an "Equal Share in America...the NEW WORLD" and what others who were on those boats were about which was "Slave Trading, Opressing Women, Witch Hunts in Massachusetts against folks who were to their eyes "different" and all the other "groups" the Repugs or their ancestors were against. :shrug:

It's really strange out there today. And, that the PNAC crowd who should be super-sensitive to what Fascism/Nazisim is all about would be the very folks leading Bushies (Corportists Supreme) in this battle against the rest of us...is really hard to understand from any "historical or even logical/sociological view. ??????
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:48 PM
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8. I think we need to call it just what it is. Bush using islam the way
hitler used the jews.... then it gets a lot more real...

Put it right in their faces.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:56 PM
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11. Welcome to DU, wendy.jones
n/t
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amandae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:57 PM
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12. Welcome to DU!
I look forward to reading more of your posts!!

:hi:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:00 PM
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13. "you guys will be seeing a lot of me"
Hehe, nice sense of humor.

And how is it lame? Just think about it. The similarities are real and striking. It's not an attack, but rather a consideration.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:41 PM
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14. What the neocons want verses the Hitler years
You have to remember Germany was in turmoil,money was worth nothing,the hatred of Jews was around for a long time.It was about 2 countrys with no oil taking on the world to get thier oil.The technology was in place,the machines were doing the labor and germany wanted to be a big power after loosing W.W.1

What is different this time is these neocons not wanting power for this nation but power just for them and ruining this country is no big deal to them.The power of the media and corporations is so vast because of transportaion and electronic s that they have no alegence to any country or state.Our social sytems were payed for by corporations that didn't set up out of the country and taake Americas money with them.These bastards are very un-Amarican and very un- World.Thier media can do the foot work to creat thier class war against not just America but the world.It is all a break down of democracy to get them richer.
Now the world could start sticking up for it's self but they are too entertained to think straight.The neocaons don't want education for anyone but them,law and order,housing health care and food,you name it.Since oil has alot to do with this we have to find a new energy sorce and they plan on raping minds so that education won't be here to create that goal.The religion,race,gender,freedom are just issues they use to get what they want=a private army to keep everyone in place.celebrity is a form of royalty and now you are worth nothing without your body guards,bullet proof car and secuity fortress estate.They are afraid and paranoid because they know what they are doing is wrong but they are lost in it to the point of creating poverty to gain wealth.They will call the world commies or what ever term they come up with and we will watch t.v. and hope we can be one of THEM. Watch Trump or a paranoid cop show or maybe some nice M.T.V. garbage selling peace & love while they advertise the great life of being a soilder for the chosen few stupid white men bullys who believe they are the leaders of the world because they are so fucking insecure they can't deal with a simple life of working and loving and playing.As far as I am concerned it is them or the whole planet of humans who will be thier slaves with cell phones and a few toys to make us feel like we have a chance in life.What is happening in south and central America is encouraging,the people ( all of them ) are starting to get it about thier non leaders being greedy pigs.These fools are stepping on us and the freepers when we get that out of the way and agree to stop the crap the bushes will do what Joe Macarthy did - drink themselves to death as the broken little souls they are .Shut down the media by the only thing they understand,we are going to suffer but it will be worth it.Happy times can be here again if we don't bullshit our selves to death like they are.Hitler lost and the good guys won. spelling and diction mistakes galore sorry .
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:49 PM
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15. Yup, thats pretty much it.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:08 PM
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16. A difference I see is that
Moslem groups are having trouble living with their neighbors all across the world and that has been going on for decades before Bush ever came along.

There are violent problems in Indonesia, the Philippines, India-Pakistan, Nigeria, oh lord what has happened to the poor people of the Sudan.

I just don't see any similar such bakdrop in the Jewish situation before World War II.

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