Rummy on live now

[Sparkly]

On CNN...

[Sparkly]

1. "Fighting them there so we don't have to fight them.... elsewhere."

I guess they've changed that line?

[Cocoa]

3. Fallujah vs. Mosul?

fighting them in Fallujuah so we don't have to fight them in Mosul?

[Logiola]

2. He can..

Barely compose himself.. must be tough to be Donald

[Cocoa]

he's a survivor

Abu Ghraib was painful for him (though it was more painful on the unfortunate Iraqis) but he went over there and talked to the troops and goodness gracious! he was the same old Rummy, our worrying was not needed.

[hlthe2b]

11. DID we worry?

:shrug:

[Patsy Stone]

4. Hopefully

He'll give me some more poetry for the collection... :)

[MaryH]

5. well, good golly. Has he said anything yet?

Anything that makes sense?

[spanone]

16. He can't believe that anyone would think he wasn't doing his best

for the soldiers blah blah blah blah blah blah this is a reaction to yesterdays bombings and the bombings rummy has been getting. After all, things are pretty damn swell over there where democracy is growing like crazy. NOw gen meyers is giving a thumbs up deliver of our PROGRESS?????? in Iraq.

[Patsy Stone]

28. No! Of course not... n/t

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

6. Rummy the Dummy LIVE

reminds me of a sign I used to see that said

LIVE NUDES 24 hours

Which I much preferred over dead ones...

Anyways, Rummy Live - interesting to see if anybody tries to get his reflection in a mirror to see how LIVE he is...

Sorry, it's been a long day...

Actually, when confronted with the lack of armor, he should have responded with "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" or some such other sort of Rummy bullshit...

[gennifer6]

Is he resigning? Please? Shred of hope?

[spanone]

7. I'm gonna cry....he's so fucking phony.

[Sparkly]

8. Justifying the war in Iraq by quoting Karzai's thanking us in Afghanistan!

They just can't play that Iraq=Afghanistan thing too much.

[nascarblue]

17. Afghanistan? What a con job that is...link

Interview with The Nation's reporter in Afghanistan.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you describe what happened this weekend with the election?

CHRISTIAN PARENTI: Basically, the Afghan election was marked by massive fraud and intimidation, as well as lots of technical errors. The ink, as you said, was running off peoples' hands. Maybe you might hear the prayer call behind me; sorry about that. There was -- many polling places had no pens, they ran out of ballots, some polls closed and reopened, lots and lots of people had multiple voting cards, including myself. One of the parties gave me two valid voting cards that I could add my photograph to and I could have voted if I wanted to. So then there was this protest, and a bunch of us journalists went up to the house of one of the candidates, Satar Sirat, and he held this meeting. They came out and 14 of their candidates said that they were going to boycott the election. They also said they would not take positions in Karzai's government, and as you mentioned, that’s sort of falling apart. What's going on beneath the surface is the fact that in the interests of avoiding war and creating peace, there's been all sorts of back-room deals and warlords have been brought into the Karzai camp. But when you come to a place like Mazar-i-Sharif, where I've been for the last two days, you see that on the ground, life is still marked by really intense intimidation and exploitation. I spent the day out in fields as far as the eye can see of marijuana, it's the hashish season up here, not the poppy season. So the farmers are about to bring in the marijuana, the hashish. And they complain, once one gets their confidence, very openly about intimidation by local commanders who are all allied to and loyal to a guy named Mohammed Atta, who is the main rival of Rashid Dostam up here. Now Mohammed Atta is now loyal to the central government, Hamid Karzai. So regardless of who wins the this fraudulent vote, all sides were committing fraud. And the protests by many of these people, of these other candidates, was quite disingenuous, because a lot of them are pretty corrupt, opportunistic people. The fact of the matter is that what's happening is the solidification and legitimation of a government that is going to be heavily populated by really, really brutal, cruel criminals, most of whom are part of the mujahedin, which was a force that was created by the Pakistani intelligence and the U.S. in the 1980s to fight the Soviet Union and the Afghan communists. And these are the people, once again, running Afghanistan. And the way they run Afghanistan is to exploit and steal from the common people. And you literally have, land theft is rife. I interviewed a guy today who lost two motorcycles. It was him and a friend were driving to their crop and one of the local commanders’ men just took their motorcycles. They went to the governor, Mohammed Atta, who has just been appointed governor by Karzai, and Mohammed Atta essentially told him to go away. In the same area someone talked about how a woman, a young girl, had several weeks ago been taken by one of the these commanders and raped and beaten for several days, and then released, and she fled the country. So underneath the machinations about the election, that's what life in Afghanistan is like. And the U.S. is cooperating with these people, the mujahedin leaders, who have been reincarnated as the, quote-unquote, “Northern Alliance,” but they're really just a bunch of feudal thugs who is use Kalashnikovs and R.P.G.’s instead of swords and horses.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/12/1347201

[nascarblue]

9. He so full of it.

Like usual, he brings up 9-11. Disgusting. I bet he's going to cry.Where would he be without his cue cards?

[spanone]

10. This is a Public Relations Stunt.

[uncle ray]

45. a failed one at that.

[Sparkly]

12. When he meets with wounded soldiers, families who've lost soldiers

he 'feels their grief to his core.' Just not enough to bother picking up a pen.

[glarius]

13. "live" is not very descriptive of him at the moment....he seems

pretty subdued to me....Not his usual cocky self...Could the events of late be starting to get to him?...Hmmmmm

[ElaineinIN]

22. forgot his blood transfusion today

he's pale as a vampire...I wonder if he's sick or if Rove just reemed him a new one... it couldn't possibily be that he's grown a conscious, that would be terribly inconvenient for him

[ElaineinIN]

14. what a friggin phony

bleh

could he have sounded a little bit faker? a little bit more scripted? Rove must be pulling hard on his leash

I continue to be amazed that people voted for this administration :puke:

[Sparkly]

15. Myers: "What a terrific job our men in uniform are doing."

Guess the women are falling short.

[ElaineinIN]

18. See Myers

See Myers kiss Rummy's ass. See Elaine vomit again

This is a disgusting display--why am I watching this? :puke:

[Sparkly]

20. I can't believe they felt the need to tell us that the troops are trained

here before they go to Iraq!!! DUH!

Plus, he explained, we're really working on that issue of security. Yup. Under control. That's so good to know, isn't it?

[glarius]

19. Myers disgusts me beyond description....

Since the beginning he has been right there rubber stamping everything Rummy and Bush say....He's a disgrace to his uniform! IMO

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. Rumsfeld's position seems to be that the troops are more or less

galley slaves, or low class riff raff that are of no consequence. Why else would he have refused to sign the letters, allow the use of canvas tents for large meeting places in a war zone, made those remarks about choosing the war, run this whole enterprise on the cheap?

That guy has no respect for the people fighting this war.

[Sparkly]

23. Myers: "this attack from the same insurgents who attacked on 9/11" -- WTF

Then he sort of corrected it with "the same SORT of insurgents..."

[Goathead]

24. Bull Shit!!! Myers comments on 9/11

Dick Myers just said that the attacks in Mosul were perpetrated by the SAME insurgents that perpetrated 9/11. What a bunch of propagandist bullshit!!!:mad:

edited for: clarity

[spanone]

25. Heard that. Fuck Meyers. Make the 9-11 connection ALWAYS

[nostamj]

30. thats the MESSAGE

INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are INSURGENTS are TERRORISTS are

this is pissing me off SO MUCH it's almost cutting into my SAD!

[Skidmore]

44. How did you do that scrolling text thing? And how do you do

bold print? I never have figured that out for entering text on a post.

[DireStrike]

46. The scrolling thing:

<marquee></marquee>

[The_Casual_Observer]

32. This is the simple argument that goes over with the simple gumps

in the military and their simple loved ones back home, who all voted for chimp.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

26. For a while, I thought maybe he was going to burst out into tears.

I thought that maybe he had been forced to resign or something. I figure he could never be that upset about other human beings....

[spanone]

27. False modesty. His arrogance and true self is now showing through

[ElaineinIN]

29. DUCK RUMMY DUCK

Don't take responsiblity for anything.. blame Syria, Iran, the general on the ground, the insurgents... anything, just don't let the reponsiblity for anything hit me...

[Solly Mack]

31. HUH? "if they can do what they're doing, I can do what I'm doing"

WTF does that mean?

[Sparkly]

33. It means he pretends he's making a great sacrifice to do his job

"but shucks, it's nothing compared with what the troops are doing." As if his burdens even compare. :puke:

It was his non-answer to whether the criticism he's facing is bad enough that it's more difficult for him to do his job.

[Solly Mack]

35. Thank you. His comment literally froze my brain

I wish stupidity was as painful to those spouting it as it is to those hearing it.

[ElaineinIN]

36. status of missle defense

down in flames. Complete failure. Morons :nuke:

[RuleofLaw]

34. Torture

I hope one of the journalist have the balls to ask Rummy about the torture memo's that put his name on documents authorizing torture.

[RuleofLaw]

38. WOW,

The last missile defense test was not a failure, but part of a learning process?

[ElaineinIN]

41. didn't you know?

Failure is to be expected from this group :crazy:

[DireStrike]

47. Military development is based on trial and error apparently

That explains a lot of things going on.

[Solly Mack]

42. Guess that's what Iraq is as well, huh?

"We're not failing, we're just learning!"

[spanone]

37. Great Question: Who vets civilian workers in Iraq, KBR?

Meyers answer. We'll get you a fact sheet. In other words, I ain't gonna touch that fucking question with a ten foot pole. edit: this press conference told America absolutely NOTHING IT DIDN'T KNOW.

[ElaineinIN]

39. Translation..

When I'm in meeting with a client, and an investment advisor or an accountant or someone suggests a tax strategy that I think is inappropriate, my standard answer is "I'll get back to you on that"... meaning, I'm not going to call you a tax cheat here in this meeting in front of your client

[bmc99]

43. signed letters?

I wonder if he's personally signed the condolence letters yet.

[spanone]

40. Back to Iraq, please. This is diversionary. He'll talk forever on SDI.