Christian Exodus: Moving thousands to SC to establish Christian Nation

[BurtWorm]

:hi:


http://www.christianexodus.com/

ChristianExodus.org is coordinating the move of thousands of Christians to South Carolina for the express purpose of re-establishing Godly, constitutional government. It is evident that the U.S. Constitution has been abandoned under our current federal system, and the efforts of Christian activism to restore our Godly republic have proven futile over the past three decades. The time has come for Christians to withdraw our consent from the current federal government and re-introduce the Christian principles once so predominant in America to a sovereign State like South Carolina.

Christians have actively tried to return the United States to their moral foundations for more than 30 years. We now have a "Christian" president, a "Christian" attorney general, and a Republican Congress and Supreme Court. Yet consider this:

Abortion continues against the wishes of many States
Sodomite marriage is now legal in Massachusetts (and coming soon to a neighborhood near you)
Children who pray in public schools are subject to prosecution 1
Our schools continue to teach the discredited theory of Darwinian evolution
The Bible is still not welcome in schools except under unconstitutional FEDERAL guidelines
The 10 Commandments remain banned from public display
Sodomy is now legal AND celebrated as "diversity" rather than condemned as perversion
Preaching Christianity will soon be outlawed as "hate speech" 1 2
Attempts at reform have proven futile. Future elections will not stop the above atrocities, but rather will exacerbate them and lead us down an even more deadly path.

THE SOLUTION

So what can be done? ChristianExodus.org offers the opportunity to try a strategy not yet employed by Bible-believing Christians. Rather than spend resources in continued efforts to redirect the entire nation, we will redeem States one at a time. Millions of Christian conservatives are geographically spread out and diluted at the national level. Therefore, we must concentrate our numbers in a geographical region with a sovereign government we can control through the electoral process.

ChristianExodus.org is orchestrating the move of thousands of Christians to reacquire our Constitutional rights and, if necessary to attain these rights, dissolve our State's bond with the union. Click on our Plan of Action page to find out how we can experience God-honoring governance once again.

If you are tired of government-endorsed sin, then stand up and be counted! Register a user account to join the discussion forum, and submit a membership form to join the movement.

[davidinalameda]

1. forgot about them

so have they succeeded in moving people to South Carolina

[MaryH]

6. I hope they don't end up like the Jim Jones bunch.

[shadowknows69]

63. I better warn my Wiccan friends in SC

to beat feet or get strapped to a stake for some hot feet.

[genieroze]

85. Better tell them to leave before they are turned into barbecue. eom

[Sara Beverley]

54. Back door to finishing the Civil War. They couldn't stand to lose once.

They now want to lose twice.

[UdoKier]

2. YAY! Please, all fundies GO NOW!

And when the rapture finally comes, there will be a whole empty state for the rest of us to settle in!

[buddysmellgood]

3. Excellent. Let us know when everybody is there so we can build a fence.

[gorbal]

92. LOL!

Me and my mom both cracked up when we saw your post. Just imagine, all of the far rightwing in one place:nuke:

[SemperEadem]

94. and a moat and a huge wall

[northzax]

4. good for them

I hope they are very happy and recall what happened to South Carolina last time it tried to suceed.

[ogradda]

5. cool.

as long as the people in south carolina don't mind i wish them all the best.

[Tempest]

7. And exactly how will they support themselves?

The only product is tobacco, and that's not enough to generate any real income.

[BurtWorm]

10. National Socialism?

:shrug:

[sherilocks]

115. Like the polygamist branch of the Mormons

they will collect AFDC (Federal program) to survive, while screaming against the federal government interfering with their rights.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

18. Cotton...

They'll simply re-establish slavery. There are still plenty of poor people of color in SC, and they'd have no place to go.

[movonne]

20. bush will support them with our dollars....

[Wisc Badger]

8. I am a committed Christian but ??

:wtf:

[TWiley]

65. Why do religious people feel compelled to say

they are a "committed christian"?

I know it is a side issue, but I am curious.

[donco6]

82. As opposed to . . .

"Christian in name only" I guess.

Kinda offensive, personally.

[TWiley]

98. Maybe the idea is that there is also hierarchy

among believers. ?

[SemperEadem]

95. well, committed people live in insane asylums, ya know...

so, in a sense, they're right on that tip

[TWiley]

97. Is fundamentalism a contagous mental illness?

I don't want to go to the asylum. The food is horrible, and they are not allowed to have any fun.

[InvisibleBallots]

113. fundamentalist secularism is like a contageous mental illness

Surely you know these types - even just religious sounding common speech like "God bless you" after a sneeze gets them all agitated and foaming at the mouth.

"God bless me? There is no God! How dare you shove your religion down my throat!!!"

[InvisibleBallots]

111. Why do non-religious people feel compelled to nitpick

every single thing said by some religious person? How do you know she was "compelled" to say it? Maybe she just felt like saying it? Why does it matter to you?

[TWiley]

116. Well, I hear the same comment fairly often, so

evidently something is causing, or encouraging folks to make this comment.

So what does it mean? Is there a hierarchy among believers?

This really is not a flame, it is only something I am curious about.

[Fla Dem]

127. I think they simply want to show that you can be a strong Christian, but

not be wacko. Some on this board tend to color all Christians with the same brush.

[RetroLounge]

68. How long were you committed for?

:D

RL

[salin]

90. think this refers to a particular

view point of Christianity... generally their Christianity and my Christianity (which focuses on the social activism espoused by Christ in the Gospels) look and sound Very Different.

[RUDUing2]

9. why can't they ever go to the frozen north? Does anybody else find it

suspect that the extremist always want to be in warm climates...is it because they are more at home in the *heat*...

[Cleita]

16. I'd rather they didn't.

The north has some of the few pristine wildernesses left in North America. Don't let them get in there to destroy it.

[depakid]

11. Please take as many from Oregon as you can find

I will consider helping to coordinate the move.

[mogster]

74. LOL! n/t

[tsuki]

119. And Florida. We have Kool Aid International & Pensacola Xian College

(which is not a college.) Have a whole lot of people standing by to co-ordinate.

[TWiley]

126. The "rapture" is supposed to take them all.

The world would likely enjoy 10,000 years of peace if that happened.

[Cleita]

12. Once they are all there, build a fence around them.

eom

[Sandpiper]

13. This time, we need to respect their wish to secede

And allow a general amnesty for anyone who wants repatriate to the United States.

[lastliberalintexas]

46. Yes, and we could all chip in

to help pay for liberal/progressive people (or heck anyone with a brain) to leave the state beforehand. And if anyone in SC is offended, I'd be happy to let them take Texas instead. So long as I and my family get to leave first!

[Is It Fascism Yet]

56. oh poor last liberal, that is one lonely sounding handle!

[barackmyworld]

129. And that day, I will endorse preventive war

and of course we need an aggressive foreign policy against a new country that shares our borders!

[oneighty]

14. Good luck!

They will have to compete with some very low wage-wage earners in order to make a living. And there are a few more quite serious problems other than that one.

180

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. "Come out of her, my people,

that ye be not partakers of her sins..." Revelation 18:4

Translation: Get out of America and stop fucking her over.

I'm all for that; but not at the expense of decent, law-abiding Americans in South Carolina who would have their freedom suppressed by a bunch of bigoted assholes.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

29. Maybe this would finally convince my stepson

to move here to Arkansas. Lots of Pagans around here so he'd feel at home. He sure won't be welcome in a "Christian" nation.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

43. What is "Pagan" anyway?

The French recently determined that Christmas trees were "Pagan" symbols, and not religious at all. How do they figure that Pagans aren't religious?

My religion has no name. Labelling religions interferes with man's spirituality.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

47. that's what he calls his religion

so that is why I call it that.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

49. Well I wish him the best of luck

if he's stuck in Fundyville! :hi:

[Is It Fascism Yet]

57. they are right, yuletide IS pagan, and you are right, pagan IS a religion

[TWiley]

67. I understand Paganism as being

"tribalism". Any true "religion" should have the power to include all creation.

I look at the NFL and similar sporting organizations as being "Tribal". Uniforms represent race, fans represent community, and everyone is united with the worldly goals of conquest and domination.

[immoderate]

87. Where does it say religion must include all creation?

To follow your reasoning, there was no religion when all people lived in tribes. Jusaism is tribal. Native Americans had religion.

--IMM

[TWiley]

100. It would depend on where their "faith" rested.

Did people have faith in their tribe, or did they have faith in God? Today, most Americans have "faith" in money. Remove money, and most are filled with anxiety, regardless of belief in God.

As far as Judaism is concerned, it may be possible that they were linked by their common belief in the Almighty, and not by the saving force of their tribe.

Some early religions had the custom of killing and eating their king. They understood that to live, one must eat something that was once living as well. In a way, life was "eternal" due to this process. I did not eat just the potato, but everything the potato had eaten. In a sense, this would provide a common link between every living creature all the way back to the first molecule of life. By killing and eating the king, then we all shared in what the king had eaten, and the king was somehow re-living his life through us today, and down through the generations.

The symbolic relationship between this idea and the "Last Supper" is one example of what some feel is "pagan" influence on ritual. Another could be the ritual of prayer, primarily praying before eating.

I would pray that the Almighty would cleanse the food and bless it in order to receive "good animation" from its sustenance.

In fact, remnants of this idea stuck with us until around 1950. Prior to that, there was widespread belief that "digestion" was directly related to "mental illness" or "bad temperament". Naughty boys and girls would receive an enema, or a hefty dose of Castor Oil.

Analyze ..... Anal...ize; Anal....ist?

Some consider Pagan as being any religion that is not "Orthodox". I believe the "Orthodox" label is applied by culture which ironically would boil down to faith in the tribe, and not faith in the "Almighty"

If the Almighty is the Creator, then any true religion would have to include all creation. This is implicit. And yes, it just might be true that Native American religions would be considered a "true" religion if ever there was one.

I am certainly no "expert" on this subject. I have only been an interested student at times during my life. Maybe there is a genuine scholar of this subject who will chime in and clarify some of these ideas.

[chicagiana]

103. Paganism is nature worship ...

Remember, Zeus, Apollo, Neptune, Mars, etc... Those are pagan gods. They represent forces and spirits of nature.

Most of the people worhiping those gods ended up converting to Christianity and revering a patron saint who represented their traditional pagan god.

This is why protestants reject saints. They realized the pagan nature of the institution in the catholic "universal" church.

[TWiley]

117. So, the difference is

between worshiping the creation versus worshiping the creator?

[chicagiana]

120. You could put it that way ...

We have to remember that once Rome adopted Christianity, the church became all about power and controlling people. Well, you can't have people off doing their own thing worshipping trees instead of chucking money into the clergy's coffers.

There is a line between salvation through faith and salvation through organization. Are you saved by belonging to the right organization or through doing the right thing.

The catholic church held the line that salvation comes through the church. I think they're relaxing that line right now by acknowledging other faiths. But I see newer traditions going in the opposite directions.

I think the fundies talk up and down in the tradition of Luther that faith is all you need. But I think they're slowly substituting their organizations as the gateway to salvation.

After all if faith is all you need, why go to church??? Why study the bible?? Why chuck money into their coffers???

I think the fundi preachers will insist that you need more than faith and the bible to reach salvation. You need THEM to tell you how to interpet that bible. You need THEM to tell you which parts you should read or not. You need THEM to tell you what portions of the "old covenant" they choose to ignore and what is still valid in the "new covenant".

You need to be told that abortion is a crime since it is not in the bible. You need to be told that life starts when the "seed" is dropped since that isn't in there either. You must be told that the church should rule the state since Jesus is such an iconoclastic rebel. You need to be told to hate welfare since Jesus was so generous. You need to be told to hoard wealth and only share it with the temple since Jesus abhorred both accumulated wealth AND the temple.

You need to be told to hate Jews, since Jesus was Jewish. You need to be told that the Jews killed Christ when a romanized corrupt priesthood convicted Christ and Rome slaughtered him. You need to be told to hate Jesus because the people chose Barabus. Then you're told to follow the Barabus' of this world while revering Jesus.

You need to be told to hate, because Jesus only knew love. You need to be told to fear, because Jesus knew only hope. You need to be taught subservience, because Jesus was a rebel. You need to be taught racism, because Jesus loved all creeds. You must be taught to hate gays, because Jesus loved all he met. You must be taught to hold grudges because Jesus forgave. You must be taught to kill, because Jesus would have no part in it.


You have to be part of "their faith" since the faith in Jesus is completely contrary to their belief systems. Ergo, you should watch the 700 club and let Pat tell you how God is punishing the wicked and rewarding the good and how God his healing people through Pat's prayers as if somehow god couldn't hear them and needed Pat to forward their prayer.


So yeah, worshipping nature and looking for a "free god" is really bad to these guys. Looking directly at god's creation would lead you to silly conclusions regarding the age of the planet, the origin of mankind, and the nature of homosexuality. God doesn't make mistakes and looking too closely at nature would reveal whether the mistake is in scripture or creation.

[TWiley]

125. I really enjoyed your viewpoint.

And, It is true. Religion has become the champion of many "causes" that Jesus would have been opposed to.

One idea caught my thoughts.

If Jesus was slaughtered by Roman Centurions, and they were considered "Citizens of the Republic"

Then, would it not be true to say that:

Jesus was killed by the Republicans?


You might find this link interesting. You will need broadband to view it. http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/liberty.wmv

[brainshrub]

17. SC is NCs embarrassing younger brother.

I wish them well in SC.

[Sequoia]

25. NC: Beautiful, SC: Ugly

except for the coastal side.

[brainshrub]

30. We have better beaches to.

And better mountains, and trees, and people, and food, and culture and air... okay maybe not air. But we still have everything else better.

[BurtWorm]

32. I hear Charleston is a beautiful city, though.

Isn't that where the Spoleto festival is held? Or, maybe that should be "wasn't that where...?"

[luaneryder]

40. Downtown in certain places is beautiful

Spoleto won't last long if the Exodus has anything to say about it; too liberal with all those artsy films, operas, symphony, plays. As for the rest of SC...well, I lived in COlumbia for 6 years:thumbsdown:

[HeeBGBz]

51. Charleston is beautiful. Great antique shops.

Maybe she could be separately owned and operated. Like Hong Kong was.

[IHeart1993]

19. Enter the new martyrs

I don't think they realizer it's the 21st century.

[davidinalameda]

23. they don't realize the 18th Century has ended

let them go

[brainshrub]

31. You give them to much credit. I think they are in the 16th century.

[IHeart1993]

33. I agree

If you can't evolve- you become extinct. And I wonder why they hate Evolution!

[asjr]

21. ". . . reacquire our Constitutional rights..."

Have they read the Constitution? Don't they realize they have more rights now than anywhere? They just do not want anyone but themselves to have any rights. I don't think they are Christians. Christians do not act in that manner. These poor souls do need a place of their own. I wonder if there are any abandoned islands somewhere. They could play Robinson Crusoe.

[CottonBear]

22. Poor SC. They've got enough problems already.

I just got back from a trip to beautiful Beaufort and Hunting Island State Park. Don't let them have any of the state parks or the coastal area or Columbia.

[Dzimbowicz]

76. Thank you for the nice comments

I am from Columbia, have a second house on the coast and love Beaufort and Hunting Island.

:hi:

[amazona]

24. please

As I recall, South Carolina already tried the bit about secession thing. Didn't turn out all that well.

I have seen many people on DU talk of getting out of the "red" states and moving to "blue" states. If we don't want another civil war in a decade or two, we should be doing just the opposite -- getting more people out into the "red" states and getting some control of the situation. These lunatics do have guns. A theocracy should not be tolerated in any state, and those who foment secession and violent revolution in order to install theocracy should be tried for treason and appropriately punished. I am serious. Don't let this toothpaste get out of the tube.

[iconoclastic cat]

26. I wonder how many yokels have already bought into this?

I can see them now, strapping Grandma to the roof, cranking up the engine, and setting out on the road out of Sodom! Yeeee-haw!

[T Bone]

37. A bunch of JWs having been going there for 10 years at least

I know a LOT of Jehovah's Witnesses have been moving to SC for over 10 years now. The air should be filling with armageddon and rapturespeak down there already. Maybe they will all start tripping over each other down there soon enough? I wish them all the best. May they get what they seek.

[chicagiana]

105. Thats a good thing ...

When they starting knocking on each other's doors 5 times a day they'll finally realize how fucking annoying they are.

Personally, I wish there was some scheme to get the Moron's, Scientoligists and Jehova Witnesses to all live in Utah together!!!

[chicagiana]

104. If they're trying to avoid Sodomy ...

... my guess is that the LAST place you'd want to settle is around a bunch of hillbilles.

Proper civilized christians hold each other to higher standards then themselves. Therefore sodomy among other is a vile sin, your personal sodomy is a "personal failure".

The difference isn't action. The difference is guilt.

Catholics "confess" on a regular basis to absolve their sins. Baptists have to be "reborn" ;-) The concept is the same. The period is wildly different.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

27. As a Christian, I don't think those statements are "Christian," they're

just pig-ignorant, and I'm including pig-ignorant about American and religious history and theology.

Although I pity poor South Carolina, I would like to see some of them go try and live in their "Christian" paradise where they can all be ignorant together and pass stupid laws that even they'll get tired of eventually.

[iconoclastic cat]

28. So, they want to become...Utah?

[Q]

34. What about the non-Christians in SC?

This is exactly the problem with having a state religion and why our ancestors fled to this country for freedom of and FROM religious tyranny.

[Charon]

70. What about the non-Christians in SC

For them it will be like the reconquesta in Spain. After the expulsion of the Muslims. Jews were given two choices, convert or leave.

[China_cat]

91. Not to worry

The fundies that already own the state won't put up with being pushed out. It'll be a christian faction war (most likely shooting and with the alligator population getting fat)

They'll be too busy trying for superiority on the basis of what they 'KNOW' being superior to what the other group 'KNOW's to even notice us.

[chicagiana]

106. FINALLY !!!!

Christian radicals have kept each other in check by staying at each other's throat. In that way, they're like mobsters.

Like the mobsters, the radical Christians seem to have formed a "syndicate" in which they agree to stop killing each other in order to increase profits. Time to get those old theological battles going again!!!!

[superconnected]

35. If we could get the all in one state

they could vote there and not have the strength they do scattered throughout the country. I like the idea.

Sorry South Carolina, you non-fundies will probably need to move.

[regnaD kciN]

88. AMEN!!!

Please, dear God, let all the fundies move to SC, so the rest of us Christians (the real ones) will be rid of them!

[Behind the Aegis]

36. Noooooooooo!

Give'em one of the square states in the middle of the country! Don't disrupt I-95! But them all in the middle of the US, one of the squarer states (much easier to build a fence around)!

[IHeart1993]

38. How about an island.

That way they can be isolated from everything they hate. Whuch appears to be...... everything.

[Behind the Aegis]

41. NO!

They have been real pains in the ass...NO BEACHS for them! Only flat, middle America, dry land! No sparkling oceans for them! :)

[tsuki]

121. Saves on the cost of a fence, too.

[RC]

39. What part of

"Millions of Christian conservatives are geographically spread out and diluted at the national level." don't they understand?

At some level they realize they are a minority. Why do they insist on shoving their myths and fantasies down everyone else's gullets?

[Orangepeel]

42. Well, too bad for SC, but otherwise, bon voyage!

works for me

[hatrack]

44. Wouldn't Block Island be easier to patrol?

There are other island possibilities.

Kodiak, while substantially bigger, might be a bit chilly for many of them. On the other hand, 40-degree water would prevent unseemly water-walking demonstrations.

Or there was that Hawaiian island that the Navy used for years and years as a firing range - Kahoolawea (or something like that).

[tsuki]

123. I would ask...

what are the Bikini Islands doing these days? Maybe it would make Shakers of them.

[LeftyMom]

128. It's an enviornmental preserve

They'd probably eat the monk seals and build a WalMart.

[St. Jarvitude]

45. What the fuck is with South Carolina and secession?

They threatened to do it under Jackson's administration, and were the first state to cecede in the Civil War.

[St. Jarvitude]

48. Hahaha, and look at the Freudian page title.

;)

[St. Jarvitude]

50. This site is just begging to be trolled...

I'll have to infiltrate + disrupt covertly ASAP :evilgrin:

[American Tragedy]

52. Oh please please do it, do it, do it!!!

Please, concentrate your numbers into one Southern state. I could hardly dream of a better political outcome.

Seriously, I'm sure most of us here at DU would be more than willing to subsidize this project. If any Christian fundamentalists and aspiring messiahs need help moving, you know where to turn.

[bobbyboucher]

53. See ya!

Wouldn't want to be ya.

[jmowreader]

55. How to do this

1. Divide SC into two parts. The line will be 15 miles west of I-95.

2. Anything to the west of this line will be Fundiland.

3. Anything to the east of it will remain South Carolina.

4. All of the people who currently live in Fundiland can choose to be relocated at government expense for the first 90 days of Fundiland's existence.

5. On day 91, Fundiland will officially be discharged from the Union. Any person living in Fundiland who wishes to visit the United States will require a passport and visa. All trade between Fundiland and the USA will be tariffed.

The only major manufacturing effort in what would become Fundiland is the BMW plant in Spartanburg. BMW can move this if they choose to; it would be a great addition to Kinston, NC.

This would be perfect! Their own little fundamentalist utopia and the rest of us could live according to Constitutional law.

[onager]

59. OTOH, the first state to offer refuge to Jews...

...was South Carolina, in the 18th century.

I'll admit to some prejudice, since I grew up there, in the Upstate. (About 15 miles from Clemson, for you DU'ers who are still there.)

I'll also admit that the place drives me nuts every time I go back for a visit. I've lived in Los Angeles for...uh, well, for a LONG time.

EVERY time I go back, I seem to end up fighting with kinfolks over prayer in school, or evolution, or abortion, or some damn thing.

I used to just clam up and ignore them, but gave that up some time ago. I know exactly which ones among the flag-waving Freeper cousins ducked military service, and I also know which Atheist Hippie went into the Marines for 6 years. (Me.)

[Sirveri]

58. Good luck getting the Navy to give up their nuclear power school!

I'd love to see that, they just built that school back in 98.

[Cobalt Violet]

60. Where can I sign up to be a bag packer?

:evilgrin:

[raysr]

61. I'm sure you've

all seen this but just in case http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ConstitutionRestorationAct.htm

[SoCalDem]

62. Actually, I would like for them all to congregate in a few states

Normal people could then just replace them in the states they left, and we could all live happily ever after.. Like secession without the "muss & fuss".. They could do their thing unfettered, and the rest of us coukd just shun them and let them ponder the hearafter:)

A few states would turn redder, but when bunches of them leave some states, they could turn normal again..

[TWiley]

64. "States Rights", a republicrap and neo-confederate issue.

If you are unfamiliar with the neo-confederate movement, (which is a like a sister-faction) then check out palmetto.org. To see how widespread this movement is, check out Tolerance.org and click on the "track hate groups" link.

Their philosophy is related to the "Christian Identity movement", and a variety of white power groups like the "Aryans", "The Order", and the "National Alliance".

These groups have become very popular during the recent new-conservative movement of the BFEE era. Their message has attracted widespread support, and is likely going to grow.

[nascarblue]

66. You've got to see this!

You want to see what they're up to for real?
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/liberty.wmv

[TWiley]

71. Holy shit!

Every christian that crabs about bad treatment should be required to watch this video. In fact, they should be required to take a test afterward also.

[AlCzervik]

86. Yikes!!!! that is really really scary.

[CRK7376]

69. Great, just what I need...NOT!

Although I am currently stationed in SC, I sure do not want to be here, at least not with the religious wackos on there way. Now religious wackos are trying to make it even more intolerable. BUMMER!

[TWiley]

72. Check these links for background info

http://www.palmetto.org
http://www.dixienet.org/

http://www.tolerance.org click on the "track US hate groups" link

[GOPBasher]

73. That would be so AWESOME!!!!! I hope they do it!

[Aristus]

75. Guess they'll be needing plenty of Kool-Aid and cyanide.

Damn! They just can't wait to ride that express elevator to Heaven, can they?

[Dzimbowicz]

77. If this really happens...

can someone provide me with religious and political asylum?

However, I do fight "the fight from inside the belly of the beast" every day as a SC public school teacher. Sometimes I feel I'm loosing, but sometimes I actually get through to some of my students.

[BurtWorm]

78. Gods bless you! You're doing the lords and ladies' work!

:hi:

[Boomer]

102. Please, tell me you're a math teacher...

...and don't teach English.

>> Sometimes I feel I'm loosing <<

It's definitely a losing battle when even teachers can't spell.

[chicagiana]

107. You knew what he meant ...

...
please no school marming here. The only time it's acceptable is correcting someone's incorrect school marming.

Jeesh the purpose of writing is communication. If you understood what they meant, what is the big point. This isn't an entrance essay for Harvard, it's a message board.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

79. South Carolina is too good for them. How about Texas?

Not that South Carolina is a place I'd recommend to anyone but Texas would seemingly be more appropriate. I read somewhere that all that Texas needs is a "few good people and water". The same as Hell.

[nostamj]

80. OMG... I *thought* I was writing satire.....

This is a continuation of a piece that was written for a 'dystopia' thread in the new Writing forum. Yes, it's a nightmare scenerio, to be sure. But, if the fundamentalists are allowed and even encouraged to continue their agenda, it is a nightmare we could see coming to pass here.

From: The Diary of Dan Frank

Outside Ithaca, NY. In the year of our Bush 2007

The Fundamentalist Papers

The entire purpose of The Fundamentalist Papers was to gain popular support for the then-proposed ReConstitution. Some would call it the most significant public-relations campaign in history; it was, in fact, the bedrock document for the secularization of the United States as a sovereign Christian nation.

If enough of us are writing these things down, perhaps a record will remain. That will have to be reason enough to continue.

By the time The Fundamentalist Papers, as they came to be known, were enacted into law, we knew it had become inevitable. The perverse and parasitic marriage between wealthy men controlling virtually the entire economy–including virtually all news and entertainment–though their metastacizing corporations and the terrified and enraged masses ready to remake the nation in their "Christian" vision was locked in holy stone.

In the months following the nuke attack in South Florida and the LNG explosions in the Pacific Northwest, a panicked populace was artfully driven into the arms of the most aggressive of the evangelical conglomerates, Our God's America (OGA). OGA's leaders, Pat Roberston and Jerry Falwell, the twin pillars of American christian hypocrisy, stated their organization's goals unequivocally–the restoration of the country's fundamental Christian foundation.

History, be damned!

...to be continued.

[chicagiana]

108. If there is a Dark Lord in America ...

... it's Pat Robertson. He is the one who pulled the strings and created the psuedo-Christian cabal that is running the GOP now. He is the one dealing hate and suffering in the name of christ.

I seriously think that Lucas is writing his second trilogy to warn us about giving away our rights to jackals in the guise of sheepherders who murder parts of the flock for the sake of brainwashing those who remain.

[donco6]

81. South Carolina needs MORE fundies?

Wow. Go figger.

[aWaKeNoW]

83. Oh God help SC

I am originally from SC (Columbia) and believe me they don't NEED any more Christian conservatives in that state! More brainwashing is on the way SC, watch out!!

[genieroze]

84. So long and don't let the door hit ya in the butt on the way out! eom

[noiretextatique]

89. they'll be bored with other in five seconds

without gay and lesbians, and women who make their own choices to be in a tither about. with no one to smite or to pray for with smug superiority, whatever will they do? :boring:

[tsuki]

124. Feed on each other. Witch trials,

the pillory, dunkings, you know, all the fun family sports.

[whistle]

93. Well, American Nazi's are moving to Oregon, now Federalist...

...Christian neo-conservatives are proposing a mass exodus to South Carolina. I say let them establish their Kingdom of God on earth wherever they would like as long as they pay their taxes and abide by the laws of the land. The Mormons did the same thing 150 years ago when they set up their Kingdom in Utah. A lot of bazaar situations have occurred since, but on the whole it has been a workable situation. Now, what do the non-evangelicals of South Carolina think of the idea?

[chicagiana]

110. There also going to renaim the state to ...

... West Afghan. Let the reign of the American Taliban begin.

I don't know where people get this notion that America will fall because it's losing it's "Christian identity". The founders really didn't HAVE such an identity. We are a far more religious nation than we were at the beginning.

People talk about the downfall of Rome as a lesson to the US. But Rome fell after it went Christian!!! The Spanish empire fell from the zealout adherence to Catholicism. The Nazi empire was deeply steeped in Christian zealoutry and anti-jewish fervor. Imperial Japan was deeply entrenched into religious notions of the Emperor's divine presence.

Even the athiestic Soviet Union had religion. The religion was that of the state. It was an enforced value system that stymied creative thought and alienated strong mines overseas or to death.

The strength of America has been it's strong secularism. Indeed, American secularism has NOT led to godlnessness, it has led to the strongest rate of religious participation in the world. All the European nations where religion was tied to the state have suffered a religious apocolypse.

Separately, religion and state our strong institutions. Together, they corrupt one another and become the playground of hypocrites that the people grudgingly accept for the sake of their economic or mortal fortunes.

[porkrind]

96. Wonderful

Too bad for folks who currently live in SC, but it would be nice to get them all in one place so they can drive each other crazy.

[Mike Niendorff]

99. "Sincerely, David Koresh"

"PS : Bring guns and gasoline."


MDN

[xchrom]

101. tell ol' pharao

let my asshats go!

bless their little pea-brains.
their gonna need the help of liberals to get there.
'cause they'll get lost on the way with out us.

[Solly Mack]

109. Lazy whiny fucks

If they really wanted to separate themselves, they wouldn't opt for a place with infrastructure in tact.


But Noooooooooooooooooo.....these people want the government to prop them up

They want to be separate but still have the benefits....lolol

[against all enemies]

112. Goodbye!!! Hope all of them move there. That would be great.

[InvisibleBallots]

114. and Libertarians are moving to New Hampshire

the Balkanization continues.

[rucky]

118. Apologies to SC DU-ers, but I say good for them.

GO! Pleeeease! Secede and form your own damn Taliban.

[oneighty]

122. African Village in South Carolina

A Yoruban Village south of Charleston. The only African Village in the United States.

There could be a bit of a clash-like who was here first? And my god is better than your god?

180

[Bridget Burke]

130. There are quite a few African-Americans in South Carolina.

And I doubt they want to leave their family homes to these nutcases.

Of course, those who say "we should have let them secede the first time" are yearning for the much whiter America that would have been the result of accepting Secession.

[mzmolly]

131. Good, let's buy them an island!

:evilgrin: