Why do the right -wingers hate Michael Moore so passionately ?

[kentuck]

It is my opinion that they are different from Democrats, in that they sense danger from months and years away, and they seek to destroy that enemy before they can do further damage. It's not because they "hate" him- it's because he is a threat to their status quo. They did that with Jane Fonda and they do that with Noam Chomsky, to a large degree. And they are doing the same with Michael Moore.

[Obviousman]

1. Moore holds a mirror up to their faces

and they don't like what they see.
William Donohue

[maveric]

2. Because, for the most part, he tells the truth.

And RWer's hate the truth.

[kentuck]

3. Yes, the truth is like a wooden cross to Republicans.

They shriek like a vampire when someone tells the truth about them.

[susanna]

7. That's my take as well. n/t

[Chipper Chat]

21. Moore exposes more than just Republicans.

He went after Clinton & Gore big-time in his book "Stupid White Men." - even calling Clinton "the best Republican president we've ever had."
I've asked several of my Pug friends (who grouse about Moore) if they've ever read any of his books or have seen Fahrenheit 911. Guess what - 0%!!!! Nada. Zilch! They just automatically claim he's a liar, communist, atheistic slob, and left-wing wacko. And isn't this just a metaphor for the attitude of the whole right-wing-fundie conglomeration?

[BrklynLiberal]

55. EXACTLY RIGHT!!! n/t

[SharonAnn]

4. They're afraid of him. People might listen to him and start to

believe what he says.

They're afraid of losing power over the people. It's all about power and money.

[BamaLefty]

6. Moolah

$$$

[Osamasux]

5. Because they are told to.

The talking points from those in charge tell the mouthpieces to attack him and how to attack him. The mouthpieces spew, the sheep listen and parrot, thus making them innoculated against any truths they might be exposed to.

Pretty damned effective, actually.

[ilovenicepeople]

52. I 2nd your opinion as well Osamasux

:bounce: :bounce: "Because they are TOLD to."

[Merlot]

8. Why do right-wingers hate so passionately?

It dosen't really matter what or who it is. They just need an outlet for their hate.

Those people are just filled with hate. That's why it's sensless to argue with them, to think they will change, or or to imagine they will ever see another side to an issue. Until they get rid of the hate, they won't change.

And it's their hate that fuels their fight.

Liberals just don't hate enough...

[Raster]

16. the easiest way to manipulate someone is through their hate....

their hate banishes all rational thought. Their hate is so easy to manipulate. Look through history... if you wanted to incite a people, you capitalized on their hates and fears. Hate and fear go hand-in-hand. The falwells and robertsons and the rest of their ilk all talk about love. What a joke. There's no money in love.

Take the entire gay and marriage thing. If the wingers really wanted to strengthen the institution of marriage, they would ban or limit divorce. They would address the real roots of failing marriages. Instead, they find a scapegoat and whip the hate into a frenzy and then make a profit off of the whole sordid mess.

[Merlot]

36. I agree, and so does the GOP

"hate banishes all rational thought"

[jellybelly]

9. hmm...

maybe because the only fat guy they like is Rush?:think:

[unkachuck]

10. Michael Moore has money and power....

....and is still willing to vigorously support truth and democratic values....that's makes him a dangerous traitor....

[knowbody0]

11. they are jealous

he doesn't "look" like he should be successful, popular and rich

[murielm99]

12. They choose certain targets as a distraction.

They attack the messenger so people will ignore the message.

They do this with both Clintons as well.

Anyone on our side who is of iconic stature, who is smart and tells the truth, becomes a target.

I think the unreasoning hate is to distract from the message, because they know the message is right.

[BUSHOUT]

13. Look at that that swiftboad freak, he's devoted his life to hating JK!

They didn't see Moore coming.....so the "years away" instinct theory I think is off base. They're not that smart!
The "enemy" they identify usually needs to threaten their "status quo" before they act.

I agree though, it's really strange how frothy and crazy they get over people who speak out against them. We dislike...maybe even "hate" people like Bill O'Reily or Rush Limbaugh, but we're not organizing against these people. We just rely on the faith that sooner or later folks will realize those types are full of shit.

[kentuck]

14. you are correct but by months and years away...

I mean once they identify a person as an enemy, then they will take months or years to try and destroy him or her. Moore slipped by their radar the first time.

[Fone Book]

15. I agree with the robot theory

Ordinary republican's can't see him coming. Thats just what they've been told to believe and so they believe it.

[Erika]

17. Repubs are black & white and rigid

and scared to death they might be wrong in their thought process, so they block themselves from diverse views. A protection thing.

[2Design]

18. fear - I hear one of them say - 97% of the people dislike mm and I

thought that is such bs - look at all the people who went and looked at his film

he is a truth teller and they live on lies and manipulation

[Tabasco_Dave]

19. Because he fights back

Bullies hate people who fight back.

[Luminous Animal]

20. Why?

The right wingers don't hate him, they don't even know him. Not one has ever expended the effort to debate his ideas. The right wing agenda is to get us to hate him or, at the very least, to distrust him.

Unfortunately, for the right wingers, Mike just keeps hitting them with the truth but, instead of discussing or arguing the broad societal truth that Mike presents, the right wingers focus on minute factual errors and "we" fucking buy into it. Their agenda is to cast doubt amongst us and in the process get us to reject our strongest voices.

And this strategy has worked over the past 20 years or so. Many democrats have already abandoned labor, affirmative action, welfare, feminism, public schools... hell the entire infrastucture of our country is crumbling and we sit on our thumbs!

We've bought into the culture of buying and passively consumiing and forgot we have a country to defend. Mike remembers and that is why the right wingers want to shut him down.

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[NAO]

22. If Kerry were POTUS, Moore would attack Kerry, would that blow their minds

Michael Moore is NOT a Democrat. These right-wingers somehow do not realize that.

If Kerry had won (not saying he didn't) and been inaugurated, and started implementing policy, Michael Moore would most certainly attack him.

Would these right-wingers figure things out then? Would they be grateful, or just think it's some kind of 'liberal trick'?

[chicagiana]

47. This is the great lie ...

We truly are living in an emerging 1984 state. Political language is so fluid that it no longer has any meaning.

Kerry was cast as the "most liberal Democrat" in the Senate. Was he??? It didn't matter. Conservatives have spent vast amounts of money demonizing the word liberal. Calling their opponents liberals is no different than calling them witches and satanists.

What is amazing to me is how right wingers can comment about how "liberal" John Kerry is over video showing him and Ted Kennedy.

Same thing goes for Clinton. Clinton is NOT a liberal!!!! Clinton is a centrist.

So you see, it really doesn't matter how "liberal" the Democratic candidate is. They'll be panned anyway. So they might as well run a REAL liberal!!!!

BTW, the only REAL liberal running for President was Dennis Kucinich!!!!

[Stinky The Clown]

23. They hate him because he's good and on our side

if he were on their side he'd be a hero and Cheney would be on his show twice.

[ragin_acadian]

24. i always felt that the right wing has responded to mm

because he has gained so much exposure, they had to. he threatens the status quo only through the media he uses to transmit his messages: movies, which are easily digested. i haven't read any of his books, but i've seen his movies, they seem to be meaningful in a juvenile, but unspecific way. he's kind of like the mechanic that knows something is wrong with the car, but can't figure out how to fix it. bowling for columbine: good cinema - plenty of problems, no solution or cause.

i don't know much about Fonda, but she is an insta-joke in the mind of the american public, has the media marketed her in that way? all you need to do is invoke her name to call into question the validity of your argument.

chomsky on the other hand: i have yet to see a single person, or read literature that can refute anything he says. the best the r.w. can do is call him unamerican - the adult equivalent of a pre-school taunt, and that is only when some hack like andrew sullivan is put in the same show, and forced to confront him. he is an excellent example of marginalization. the r.w. refuses to acknowledge him, if they don't acknowledge his existence, they don't have to defend their position.

moore is a threat to the status quo, but he is also a lightning rod for criticism. he doesn't really have any credentials, and on top of that, he is the antithesis of what "They" are marketing you to be. overweight, unattractive. therefore he is easy to attack. so as long as moore puts out movies and people go to see him, the r.w. puppetmasters will heap criticism because it fits in a 30 second sound bite at 6:00. they will still ignore academics like chomsky because the majority of americans prefer to have "Mr. Blow Dried" tell you what to think during dinner, to actually having to think.

[chicagiana]

48. Moore bypasses their iron clad hold on the news media ...

Conservatives have promulgated the great lie that liberals somehow control the media that conservatives OWN. So basically, liberals can never get their points out. Often, conservative producers put scarecrow liberals on set to discredit real ones.

Michael Moore has found a way to bypass their virtual Big Brother media establishment. He sneaks his message in the backdoor. And the conservative "reality makers" don't like Moore poking pins into their balloons of bullshit.

However, they have one great problem. They cannot attack Moore's message directly. Having a real debate would involve repeating Moore's message. The LAST thing they won't people to do is to show Moore's obese figure yelling and waving at the entrace to the plato's cave. The conservatives will do whatever they can to keep their sheep staring mindlessly at the scary shadows on the wall so they'll be happy to hand away their liberties and freedoms.

So instead they attack Moore himself. They do everything they can to keep people from seeing Moore's films. They make up spurrious propositions about what Moore says that completely disresemble Moore's message.

I read the commentary on "Bowling for Columbine" before I saw the movie. I thought to myself that Moore must be a performance artist and that "Bowling for Columbine" was full of tricks and self-contradictory editorials.

Well, than I SAW "Bowling for Columbine" on cable. Guess what??? The descriptions I READ about the film didn't resemble it in one bit.

In short, they lie about Moore. Moore is distressing because deep down he is an ideologue with a strong message. The message is that the powers that be are trying to scare us into a state of dependence. Dependence on "security", dependence on "products", even dependence on the so called news media that can tell us when we're safe and unsafe.

[ragin_acadian]

54. right on! n/t.

[leftofthedial]

25. because he's right

and they know it

[ixat]

26. Very simple. So many people hammered that Moore is an inveterate liar,

that the association became ingrained in the minds of the public. It's a simple case of repeating something often enough that it becomes the truth. Not to say, of course, that Moore has never sinned against truth, but he's not exactly a left-wing Rush Limbaugh. And, having read "Dude Where's my Country," his main targets aren't the real conservatives, it's Bush & co.

[Disturbed]

28. Do they hate him...

for similar reasons that many of us, me included, can't stand Hannity, Rush, O'Liely, Man Coulter et al?

Mr. Moore voted for Nadar. Is Nadar a Socialist?

[Az]

27. Its a classic bully thing

Moore stands out. He doesn't dress the part. He doesn't fit in. So they target him. And then like any bully, when they sense that no one is coming to his rescue they tear into him. Once they find out they can beat the tar out of him without repurcussions they make him their favorate target.

[tsuki]

29. Film is the only medium that they do not control. Anyone see

that dog Celcius 41.1? To paraphrase--

They hate him for his talent and ability.

[WillieWoohah]

30. They don't control music either (thank G-d)

Unless you count Toby Keith, and I'd be hard pressed to call that "music".

[newyawker99]

34. Hi WillieWoohah!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Seabiscuit]

31. Because, using his hick sense of humor, he esposes them for who they are.

[Lilith Velkor]

32. Because he got rich by mocking them n/t

[TWiley]

33. Because he is not disillusioned and can recognize the truth.

The truth always threatens any argument based on emotion and propaganda. Republicraps understand this.

[The Gigmeister]

35. Same reason we hate Coulter, Rove, Bush, Hannity, Rush, ect, ect...

He's not part of their political home team.

[Plaid Adder]

37. They hate him because he's effective.

They don't have to worry about Chomsky. Almost nobody in the mainstream is ever going to read him or believe anything he says. Moore has refined the art of delivering the message in the same idiom that they're used to from the news and mainstream Hollywood. If the Democratic Party knew how to do that this whole crisis could be over int two election cycles.

Alas,

The Plaid Adder

[The Traveler]

38. Moore is a rational guy

Never understood the Chomsky worship around here. He has some interesting ideas and all, but so do lots of people. Frankly, I think he lives in la la land. Still, in my opinion he serves a useful purpose mostly because he raises some very interesting questions ... questions that cut to the core of things. Questions that need to be answered. He is not a significant threat to the right wing because his answers are often not rooted in practicality.

Fonda's little episode at the North Vietnamese anti-aircraft rendered her forever politically ineffective. She simply became a symbol of what was perceived as liberal excess ... "she hates America". The RW does not distinguish between hatred of country and hared of certain policies. Nonetheless, she might as well have stepped forward and volunteered to be grist for the RW hate mill.

Moore, on the other hand, is a guy who understands that if it ain't practical, it won't work no matter how lofty the motivations. Consider his advocacy of Wesley Clark ... in Clark he found a fellow traveller, a man seeking the practical means to elevate the level social and economic justice in this country. Moore is not a utopian ... he would be happy with continued real progress.

Moore is dangerous because he is a real progressive with a voice, committed to a practical implementation of a progressive agenda. He has a penetrating insight into life in America. He is not prone to stupid moves. He cannot be bought. He cannot be scared off. He is not easily discouraged. He is a Threat with a Capital T.

[Lefty48197]

39. He exposes them for what they are. That scares the hell out of them.

Can you imagine if everybody in America knew just how evil the right wingers actually are? Geez, there's be riots in the streets.

[Politicub]

40. He rubs their noes in their own hypocrisy

Reich wingers hate that. lol

[ernstbass]

41. Hannity and Rush tell them to hate him

and they drink the kool aid like they always do!!! Most of them wouldn't know Michael MOore if they saw him.

[zann725]

42. If MM keeps telling us there was no Election Fraud, liberals will soon

be hating him too.

[mediaman007]

43. You can't be a right-winger without feeling persecuted.

Think about it. Its all about them. They are huge whiners. They talk about how the left enables the disenfranchised, but in effect, they behave like they are disenfranchised.

(Sarcasm begin) The media is against us. Big government is against us. The unions don't help us. They want out guns. The won't let us pray. (end sarcasm)

Listen to them. Their whining unites them. They thrive on being losers.

[mediaman007]

44. "You can't be a right-winger without feeling persecuted." You can't be a r

Think about it. Its all about them. They are huge whiners. They talk about how the left enables the disenfranchised, but in effect, they behave like they are disenfranchised.

(Sarcasm begin) The media is against us. Big government is against us. The unions don't help us. They want out guns. They don't respect the poor miltary. They want to weaken the country. They won't let us pray. (end sarcasm)

Listen to them. Their whining unites them. They thrive on being losers.

That's why you can't win any kind of argument with them. If they are losing (most of the time) they fall back into their loser mentality. In fact, they probably expect to lose arguments, which only reinforces their right-wing thinking.

[chicagiana]

49. Don't forget about Christian persecution !!!!

Yes, they're trying to ban Christmas and the Bible. They're trying to eradicate Christ with their godless secularism.

DAMN YOU THOMAS JEFFERSON!!!!!

[David Zephyr]

45. They Hate Him for His Freedom.

;-)

[kentuck]

46. Excellent response, DZ!

:)

[njdemocrat106]

50. He tells the truth

Conservatives can't stand anyone who can prove that America and its Fearless Leader are anything less than 100% perfect. Conservatives live in their own closed, shielded realities. They can't stand to think that's there's more to America than rich, white, Anglo-Saxon, heterosexual, fundementalist Protestants.

[Arkana]

51. Because Mike tells it like it is.

And the truth is like a taser to a right-winger. Moore has the power to make people listen, and that absolutely scares them shitless.

[Lenape85]

53. Because he's much smarter than them

[Midlodemocrat]

56. I don't know

...but I just bought myself his DVD set Awful Nation from Barnes and NOble. Merry Christmas to me!!!! I love Michael Moore. He lives in my brother's building in NYC and I keep bugging my brother to get an autograph.

[indepat]

57. Moore exposes their mendaciousness and sanctimonious hypocrisy

[leesa]

58. Because he is pricking their consciences, and they don't want to wake

up from their cozy American Fantasy.