The number of dying around the world is really starting to scare me.

[WebeBlue]

100,000 killed Iraqis in the war in Iraq; 11,000 and counting in the tsunami yesterday, 3,000 WTC; 1,324 KIA troops (reported..they shuffle the numbers on paper if the soldier dies after being moved from the combat field and it is not in the count of the KIA, rather died from wounds); genocide in Dafur going on now; uncounted Aids-deaths. What is happening, populations being decimated in huge numbers in short space of time?

[quaoar]

1. What is the source for the 100K dead in Iraq?

I'm not doubting it. I've seen that number but don't know where it came from. Anyone got a link.

[alfredo]

8. I believe it was the International Red Cross, or some

similar human rights group.

[WebeBlue]

9. Links .. 100,000 Iraqis killed and this # prior to Fallujah 2,

http://www.jhsph.edu/PublicHealthNews/Press_Releases/PR_2004/Burnham_Iraq.html

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/iraq.deaths/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-08.htm

[quaoar]

23. Thanks

[Career Prole]

11. Here you go...

The estimate, to be published next week in The Lancet, a leading British medical journal, comes from a distinguished group of social and medical scientists at Johns Hopkins University, headed by Dr. Les Roberts of the Bloomberg School of Public Health. The team also included researchers at Columbia University and the College of Medicine at Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad. They went house-to-house in 33 neighborhoods that reflect Iraq society as a whole and interviewed residents about deaths in their households since the U.S. invaded. The death rate, they found, averaged about 300 percent higher than normal, attributable to the war's violence.

"The risk of death was estimated to be 2-5 fold higher after the invasion when compared with the pre-invasion period," notes the story in The Lancet. Extrapolating from this data to the nation as a whole, that translates into a minimum of 100,000 war dead among civilians, the researchers said.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/20352/

[NAO]

15. I thought it came from LANCET, the British Medical Journal

They extrapolated civilian unnatural deaths during the reign of Saddam Hussein and came up with an average annual figure that he was "murdering";

then they looked at the number of non-combatant deaths that resulted from "collateral damage of our 'democracy bringing operation'" and it turns out that we are massacring innocent people at a higher rate than Saddam.

[NYC]

18. Lancent said it.

[Maraya1969]

27. The British Medical Journal, "The Lancet"

stated the 100,000 number. Not a chump publication.

[Maple]

2. Sad to say

but it's not much different than any other day.

Only the 'splashy' items make the headlines though.

[mhr]

3. Once Peak Oil Hits - Try 50 Million Per Year - This Is Only Prelude

eom

[WebeBlue]

13. Not unaware of Peak Oil, but how does this translate to deaths?

excuse me if I'm "duh" here, dull brain tonight and maybe I don't understand Peak Oil as well as I thought.

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. Iraq is just the first of the oil wars.

Wherever there are oil fields we are likely to find wars. Nigeria, Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Arabian Gulf states...

What happens when the oil wars spill into the former Soviet republics that have oil? Those guys have nukes.

We are heading into some nasty few decades.

[WebeBlue]

30. Thanks, yeah the obvious..more wars for oil .. indefinite

until there is no more such resource as oil...I knew I was "duh" tonite..the obvious, straight over my head.

[mhr]

25. As The Last Of The Worlds Oil Reaches Depletion

Much of the world's population that is dependent upon Oil for their lifestyles will slowly perish.

www.dieoff.org

[bleedingheart]

4. just imagine if there were no vaccines or food programs...

those figures would be even more frightening...

[Gardeaux08]

16. Really,

that is what is going to be our doom as humans. As cruel as it sounds, disease and famine were the only things that kept the population in check.

[WebeBlue]

19. Yeah, why can't we get to distribution of the resources for

the benefit of the better good of all peoples? I know, I know....but it is possible, it is where our energies Could go instead of into destruction and disregard for our fellow beings. The earth has plentifulness to sustain us all, somehow, and there has to be a different God than $$$.

[aquart]

5. You think this is unusual?

Actually, no.

[Silverhair]

6. Statistically trivial on a base of 6 billion.

In fact, the world population is still growing.

[MercutioATC]

28. Agreed. In addition, not to sound heartless, but

2000 people die in the Phillipines if a tree falls over. Lesser-developed countries always see higher death tolls during natural disasters.

[Lorien]

29. Yep. Low mortality rate compared to other times in

history. Black death, flu epidemics, polio, World Wars...we've had it easy in our lifetimes.

[Cobalt Violet]

7. Don't forget the 10,000 deaths a year in this country from...

Hepatitis C. A growing epidemic with no media attention.

[Radio_Lady]

10. WebeBlue, that estimated number (100,0000) was from an...

international relief organization. It was out about a month ago, I think. Sorry... I wish I could tell you more, but can't recall the details.

[WebeBlue]

14. Radio_Lady, tx for trying, I had the links though.

:) It's my self-assigned job to keep track of everything I can related to Iraq war, military family here with 2 deployed in Iraq, 15 months (extended tours) and both scheduled for second tours in Iraq. Have a blog, Dying to Preserve the Lies, where I used to update daily, but lost my heart after the election. Getting some of my fire back again though, Kerry may still be a reality, and it's my slim thread of hope that he and only he will know what to do with the Iraq quagmire mess. Keeping track of events related to the war is also what brought about a keen sharpening of needing to be politically aware and astute.

[monkeegirl]

12. 3.2 million Vietnamese

3.2 million Vietnamese died during the Vietnam War,and Americans did not blink for the most part still do not know how many died there for nothing. They know about our troops, but not the "enemy" (mostly peasants). The sad truth is that most Americans do not know how many Iraqis have died so far in this conflict either.


The Iraqi conflict promises to be much worse if we do not find a better way to address it.

[WebeBlue]

17. Yes, I didn't realize the fullness of the number. Hmong genocide too

of 6 million... along with the Vietnamese. Guess I'm in a morbid mood tonight as I think on day after Christmas of what isn't so joyful. I hated how some in my family did Christmas as usual, as if it was the most important thing they could be doing, shopping and spending money when so many are suffering. I'll snap out of it tomorrow when news of Kerry's latest activities start to break and curtail the stupid news of msm.

[bhikkhu]

31. followed shortly by 3.5 million cambodians...

again, hardly a blink, until the movie came out.

[karnac]

20. 146,000 die daily. Just a drop in the bucket

multiply that times 365 and you get a global death rate of about 53 MILLION people. about two whole IRAQs kicking the bucket.

http://www.intellectualloafing.com/noframes/activitiesfolder/estimationqsfolder/usdeathrate.htm#answer

This is just a guestimate.. I't probably higher like 100,000,000 per year.

[madison2000]

21. The twentieth century was pretty bad, so there was a need to start early

if we were going to exceed that total.
Sorry, very cynical.

[MatrixEscape]

24. Well, the number one, certain cause of death ...

is reproduction. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way, either.

[satori]

26. The Independent-150,000 people die each year as a result of climate change

The Independent
UK
27 December 2004

2004: The year of living dangerously

This year has seen a succession of ferocious disasters, destroying cities and killing tens of thousands of people. Michael McCarthy reports on a trend that is terrifying the insurance industry

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=596139

[hfojvt]

32. death, where is thy sti ... ow!

I wrote this on the one year anniversary of 9-11

However, in the year following 9-11, there have been over 20,000 homicides in America, if this has been an average year. In the year 2000, U.S. residents age 12 or older experienced about 25.9 million crimes. 19 million were property crimes, 6.3 million were crimes of violence. There were about 250,000 rapes. Thus in an average year, 6.3 million Americans are terrorised by their fellow Americans. There is a war on terror for you.
99,860 people died in accidents in 1999, over 40,000 in automobile accidents. Maybe we should bomb Detroit, since that is at least eight times worse than what Al-quaida did in a year. 29,199 people killed themself in 1999, und HIV was a big killer, taking 14,802. In the same year, 3,823 people under 55 died of the flu or pneumonia, as did 59,907 people over 55. That is dwarfed by the over 600,000 who died of heart disease.