Republicans claim Iraq and Osama weren't worth it (during Clinton's term)

[ck4829]

1. Osama is not worth it, cries the Conservatives
2. The Voice of the Freepers
3. Joe Farah's opinion
4. Reasons not to invade Iraq (written by Conservatives)


1. Osama is not worth it, cries the Conservatives

"Osama bin Laden’s camp in Afghanistan consisted of shacks and tents, hardly a fit target for a missile that costs nearly a million dollars per copy"
http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/1999/04/02.htm


2. The Voice of the Freepers

"Last time it was Iraq, Now we are bombing Afghanistan and Sudan"

"Afgahnistan ought to be our ally"

"Low-risk targets with very little chance of retaliation or casualties for US personnel-how coincidental"

"WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TROOPS TO STAY ALERT EVERYWHERE"

"This brash act by a brash child-man is a direct threat to the security of every citizen inside our own borders for the people against whom he acted are non-forgiving and have no fear of death"

"PLEASE GOD HELP US!!!! I AM THE STUPID1 ----- please excuse me for yelling, but now I'm really scared of the lenghts this man is willing to go"

All from
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a530320.htm


3. Joe Farah's Opinion

"Joe Farah points out in his Between the Lines (12/18/98) that "As president, Bill Clinton has...squandered $5.5 billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars on containing the Iraqi threat..."
http://www.conservativeusa.org/wagdog.htm


4. Reasons not to invade Iraq (written by Conservatives)

It is unconstitutional for America to go to war without a Congressional declaration of war.

Given the present set of facts, there is no Constitutional predicate on the basis of which Congress has the authority to initiate war, even with a declaration of war.

In war, there is no substitute for victory. Victory, as commonly understood, with respect to an assault on Iraq, has not been defined, let alone declared to be the objective of any such attack.

The strategic position of the United States in the world may be diminished, rather than enhanced, by an attack on Iraq. Many regimes friendly to the United States will be placed at severe risk if they are seen to assist, or even favor, the U.S. attack.

If we "succeed", what have we gained? If we don't begin a war, what have we lost?

War has consequences which are often unintended and almost always beyond comprehensive anticipation. If we and our "allies" join to attack Iraq, Iraq and its allies may combine to attack us in ways which cannot be fully foreseen. How many planes will crash? How many water supplies will be polluted? How many nuclear weapons will be detonated? How many civilian targets will be made subject to terrorist assault? Will chemical weapons be deployed?
http://www.conservativeusa.org/iraq-war.htm

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1. Um, er . . . 9-11 changed everything!

Isn't it a hoot to see the green visors in the conservative ranks worrying over a million-dollar missile or $5 billion spent in eight years? Their Boy George spends that much every month AND gets 45 soldiers killed. But because it's a Republican squandering our national time, treasure and talent, all is forgiven.

[Old and In the Way]

3. Moral relativism.

No one applies it better than the apologists for Bush-Republicanism.

[HuskiesHowls]

5. I feel that if the duly elected president in 2000

had been in office, instead of the appointee of the Supreme Court, 9-11 never would have occurred.

[gratuitous]

6. I think you have that exactly right

After Clinton thwarted the millennium attacks, terrorists had to settle for bombing the USS Cole, well outside the U.S. sphere of influence in a Yemeni port. After getting a good look at Clinton's successor, I'm sure the terrorists couldn't believe their luck. When Bush turtled on the spy plane incident with the Chinese, and headed off for a month's vacation after just six months on the job, not to mention gutting the intelligence funding for gathering information on terrorism, they knew they had the perfect patsy to pull off the greatest coup ever.

Think of it: 20 people from disparate backgrounds of varying abilities, and 19 of them made it onto planes on that fateful day. All four jets they boarded were successfully taken over, and three of them struck their intended targets. And since then, the U.S. has gone haring off after every shadow and every rumor and still not gotten the men they claim were the main architects of the September 11 attacks.

And then we re-elected this inept garbanzo.

[Old and In the Way]

9. Why did this administration take the Predator surveillance

platform off the mission to hunt for OBL? And why did they take attack subs, to retaliate, off station in the Gulf? And why did they shitcan the Hart-Rudman Report? And why did they ignore every warning that we were getting about a pending attack on US soil, especially the PDB on 8/6/01?

Makes me think they wanted us to get attacked....

[ixion]

7. yep... nor would have the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan

and there would be 150,000 people who would probably still be alive, and our Constitution and Bill of Rights would still be in tact, and on and on.

:cry:

[Maestro]

2. Typical reputhuglican hypocrisy

but to tell you the truth I have been battling some young simple minded rethuglicans on another board and I can tell you that they will say something along the lines of, "The world is different now post-911, blah, blah, blah" "We have to take the fight where the terrorists are." They will use any sort of tie-in to 9-11 to force their PNAC views and superiority complexes. However, thanks for the post. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

[warrior1]

4. half true

oasama hasn't been caught.

[matcom]

8. my favorite

To: Wil H
Do the words "Act of war" mean anything to anybody?
Neither of these are my favorite countries, and Sudan is just about at the bottom of my list for its slavery persecution of Christians.

Nevertheless, we have undertaken a unilateral act of war -- without a declaration of war, without even any congressional oversight or approval. This is yet one more in a long line of Clinton's abuses of power.

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool"

Send out the planes, world up in flames. Kinda scary


From: luther kirk () *
08/20/98 15:02:57 EDT

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10. Typical.

When Clinton does it, "We can't be bombing middle eastern countries. They should be our allies! Wag the dog!"

But with Bush, "yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa let's go kill some brown people!"