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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:05 PM
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NYT: xmas bush1 pardons for Iran Contra and other CRIMES (PHOTO)
Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger and most of reagun's Cabinet were CONVICTED and on their way to HARD CORE PRISON TIME...when then president papa bush reached for his pen and PRESIDENTIALLY PARDONED ALL OF THEM on Christmas eve, hoping that news even would sort of slip under the radar, as our Nation celebrated the Holidays....

this was the bush crime that set the stage for our current madness in Iraq......a little walk down memory lane for the holidays....has anyone researched all those bank people that the chimp pardoned last week? ..who were they and how much money did they steal, what was the money used for, and who are they connected to? or is that just important information disappeared again????


thanks to www.bartcop.com for reminding me about this horrendous crime

no wonder bush* junior has refused to allow us to look at reagun's records (even though the law required us to be allowed after 15 years)....time to DEMAND that bush* opens the reagun records, those records belong the the AMERICAN PEOPLE, and should no longer be hidden....)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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1. I've been shouting to reform presidential pardons for months now
I contacted all my congresspeople, and nobody has gotten back to me on that.

I wanted something in place by November 2nd, but it's too late for that.

You KNOW Bush is going to pardon Ken Lay and his buddies, and maybe the kids that killed Matthew Shepherd.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:37 PM
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2. Iran Contra, BCCI, The Savings and Loan fallout
These were the problems of the Reagan Administration. It was funny that in some news articles claimed that Iran Contra and BCCI investigations were thwarted by the Kerry Congressional Investigation and if Mr. Kerry did pursue this endeavor that there would be more people in jail. As a matter of fact, they went as far to say that Mr. Kerry Bungled the other investigations.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:44 PM
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3. Kerry pursued those investigations DESPITE other lawmakers who wanted
him to drop them.

Kerry did NOT bungle any of those investigations. His work put IranContra into the hands of a Special Prosecutor. When he saw that some aspects were getting nowhere he gave some of the info to the NY Attorney General who prosecuted successfully.

I'd like to see your articles that claim Kerry "bungled" the cases. The books I've read had almost all praise for Kerry's doggedness on the investigations.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 08:46 PM
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6. Here is one
<snip>
It was not an easy ride. Reagan Justice Department officials sought to discredit and stymie his investigation. Republicans dismissed it. One anti-Kerry effort used falsified affidavits to make it seem his staff had bribed witnesses. The Democratic staff of the Senate Iran/contra committee--which showed little interest in the contra drug connection--often refused to cooperate. "They were fighting us tooth and nail," recalls Jack Blum, one of Kerry's investigators. "We had the White House and the CIA against us on one side and our colleagues in the Senate on the other. But Kerry told us, 'Keep going.' He didn't let this stuff faze him."
<end snip>

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040315&c=1&s=corn


This same crap came up in the election. The reason I cannot pinpoint the material is because as soon as I read it, I blew the article off.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:23 AM
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8. Then why even submit such garbage as an alternative view as if there
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 11:26 AM by blm
were any validity to the charges at all?

Kerry was a real hero for democracy and for honest governance with very few willing to share that task at the time. He stuck his neck out in ways that made him a hated, permanent target by the Bush cabal and their cronies.

If Kerry's work had received the proper scrutiny and reporting by the press at the time, BCCI would have exposed the Bush cabal to the American people for its dealings with the financiers of terrorism and regional wars and 9-11 would likely have never happened.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:06 PM
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9. For some reason it seems that mainstream press (Ha Ha)
has never been on the up and up here in the U.S., explicitly on political matters. For some reason I do remember reading recently MSNBC that there were fingers being pointed toward Mr. Kerry about nobody being in jail for the Iran Contra and BCCI scam. These were just one liners and not the main crux of the article. It just blows my mind that these people can get away with this like they been.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:49 PM
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4. Cap Weinberger - War Criminal
This excerpt from Mother Jones magazine from 1993 regarding Lawrence Walsh's investigation explains it well.

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James Brosnahan, the San Francisco trial attorney who moved to Washington last fall to prosecute Weinberger (before Bush pardoned him), came to see the unrelenting attacks against Walsh as part of the obstruction of justice. "It was all so transparent that I was disappointed more people didn't pick up on the fact that all they were really trying to do was obstruct the trial of Weinberger," he says.

"It was going to be a hell of a trial. The full story would have been told, as it pertained to the counts of the indictment. They couldn't have a trial. The cross- examination of Caspar Weinberger was going to be an event."

Walsh's team had discovered that Weinberger's handwritten notes disproved Bush's claim that he had been "out of the loop" and proved that Weinberger knew full well about $25 million in Saudi contributions to the contras, even as he told Congress in 1986 that the charge was "so outlandish as to be unworthy of comment."

According to Brosnahan, the trial would have shown that Weinberger knew as early as summer 1985 that President Ronald Reagan had personally authorized missile shipments to Iran in violation of the Arms Control Export Act, and that this potentially impeachable act was concealed by constructing a false record. "The August <1985> meeting discussed having Israel send the missiles to Iran and replenishing them out of U.S. stocks," says Brosnahan. "Weinberger is responsible for all missiles. The secretary of defense is the guy."

link: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/BushIC.html
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:05 PM
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5. rummy will get the same forgiveness from the current bush*.....

count on it...they are living high on the BLOOD of the INNOCENTS....

WAR CRIMINALS.....perhaps it'll be like Pinochet, where ENGLAND had to grab him as he arrogantly traveled around entertaining himself....there's at least five countriest that WILL arrest Kissinger, should he be so bold as to appear at their airports....


I'd really like see bush* go down like nixon...resign the Presidency under a barrage of war-crimes, bribes, corruption, and finally connected to the common American.....a third-rate burgalry, where nothing of value was taken and the crooks were caught red-handed in the act (amazing too, because MOST criminals in DC could have pulled that simplicity off without a snag and leave no evidence)....

bush* is already seriously sinking....his downfall could come anywhere and any number of major crimes and scandals....

nixon's collapse surprised Americans....nixon was bullishly fighting off a number of crimes and scandals, the Vietnam war KILLING was raging...and one day in August...nixon decided to QUIT (as he realized that PRISON was the other option)...so he suddenly announced his resignation, and a few hours later, boarded the helicopter and left forever....amazing....may bush* also be 'nixon-ed'....bush* crimes are orders of magnitude beyond nixon's.....
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:31 PM
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7. Kick...
:kick:
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