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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:51 PM
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Is the P2OG at work? Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group..Rumsfeld.
Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG
http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759
In the Los Angeles Times, the military analyst William Arkin describes a secret army set up by Donald Rumsfeld, similar to those run by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger and which Congress outlawed. This "super-intelligence support activity" will bring together the "CIA and military covert action, information warfare, and deception". According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld, the new organisation, known by its Orwellian moniker as the Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG, will provoke terrorist attacks which would then require "counter-attack" by the United States on countries "harbouring the terrorists".

In other words, innocent people will be killed by the United States. This is reminiscent of Operation Northwoods, the plan put to President Kennedy by his military chiefs for a phoney terrorist campaign - complete with bombings, hijackings, plane crashes and dead Americans - as justification for an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy rejected it. He was assassinated a few months later. Now Rumsfeld has resurrected Northwoods, but with resources undreamt of in 1963 and with no global rival to invite caution. You have to keep reminding yourself this is not fantasy: that truly dangerous men, such as Perle and Rumsfeld and Cheney, have power. The thread running through their ruminations is the importance of the media: "the prioritised task of bringing on board journalists of repute to accept our position".

Business As Usual at the Pentagon.
http://progressivetrail.org/articles/041216asUsualatthePentagon.shtml

SNIP..."The New York Times would have us believe such operations are under consideration and have yet to be “endorsed,” when in fact Donald Rumsfeld told us they were afoot a couple years ago. “United Press International has exclusively obtained documents summarizing the Defense Science Board, which will be publicly released in late October <2002>, after it has been presented to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.”

"The counter-terror operations group alone would require 100 people and at least $100 million a year. Rather than simply trying to find and foil terrorists’ plans—the approach that characterizes the current strategy – the “Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group” —known as P2OG—would devise ways to stimulate terrorists into responding or moving operations, possibly by stealing their money or tricking them with fake communications, according to the report."

You can do a search on P2OG or the full name. We have discussed this here before, but I have not seen much lately. I was surprised to see so many hits on it. IMHO irritating terrorists is not a good thing for our people.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:52 PM
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1. Tell me about this site. P2OG and Office of Special Plans mentioned.
http://www.bushpresident2004.com/index.htm

The most telling statement is this one:

"but you can fool ENOUGH of the people
ALL of the time....."


At this link there is something about the OSP and P2OG.
http://www.bushpresident2004.com/rumsfeld.htm

SNIP..."Unfortunately, terrorists were not limited to Afghanistan, so in 2002 Donald Rumsfeld set upon expanding the so-called "black world" of covert operations to engage terrorists and rogue states around the world. One creation urged by Rumsfeld is the Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG). The P2OG would initiate covert operations to "stimulate reactions" by terrorists in order to discover their location and allow special forces to quickly engage. By definition, the P2OG is actually designed to increase terrorist acts. And while these "reactions" by terrorists will often result in civilian deaths, it is all part of a clever plan by Secretary Rumsfeld to fight terror by creating it."

SNIP.." The United States then turned its attention toward the liberation of the Iraqi people and the eradication of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. To ensure President Bush was not hampered by confusing and complicated intelligence from the CIA regarding these possible weapons, Secretary Rumsfeld assembled the Office of Special Plans (OSP) with fellow PNAC member Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz...."

A lot of info on this page, but it appears to be interpreted in a very clever way.




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