Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Ldotters on Wal*Mart cat shooters

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:44 AM
Original message
Ldotters on Wal*Mart cat shooters
Just when you think they can't get any lower....the shit sinks further.

http://www.lucianne.com/threads22.asp?artnum=190784



Reply 3 - Posted by: Don Marquis, 12/30/2004 11:57:35 AM

What's the matter?
Was it out of cat season?


Reply 10 - Posted by: craige, 12/30/2004 12:30:33 PM

*************************
Most 'do gooders' do not really care about animals. They are simply Leftists. Imagine you're a mangy stray cat, trying to scrape out a living, on your own. 3 or 4 humans manage to corner you, cause you pain, and put you in a cage. (Dog catchers no longer perform this service.) You're scared to death. Next, you're sent to the pound, and put in another cage, among many other scared cats and dogs. You're on death row. Finally, you're put into a box, and gassed to death. So much for the 'legal way' of doing things.

A simple shot from a 22 cal to the head, brings immediate results. No terrifying entrapment, pain due to mishandling, time in jail, or execution by gas. Which way is most humane?


Reply 12 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/30/2004 12:40:28 PM

Let the flak fly, but I am on the side of the WalMart manager on this one. Feral cats are among the biggest nuisances in the great outdoors. They kill untold number of songbirds. Once truly feral, they cannot be returned to domestic status, and in fact will kill your pet pussykins if they catch him outside. They need to be destroyed. If there is blame here, it is for the people who allow their cats to breed and run wild.


Reply 15 - Posted by: artlover, 12/30/2004 12:55:28 PM

If that stray cat was in some of the things that might be sold to people to eat, I can surely see why they would shoot him. Maybe he was just so evasive, they had to shoot him. Come on people, this was a cat. How many are killed every day in the animal shelters because they can't find homes for them? Personally, I would never have one, as they crawl on kitchen counters, etc. To each his own.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero, 12/30/2004 1:06:39 PM

Federal Animal Cruelty? What is happening to us has the world gone mad? I don't like the idea of shooting some poor cat, on the other hand people are way more important, the guys that shot the cat probably don't care for the critters in the first place but they too have families and lives and it does not measure correct to compare it to "cat" life.

So let's see, we hom/minority hate crimes, illegal alien protection, lesbian protection, muslim protection, animal protection, but no protection for the unborn, white heterosexual males, tax payers of every stripe, businesses, Christian-Judeo values, the ten commandments, God, Christmas, family values and all things making the backbone of a long lasting society.

Stand up and be counted folks and don't get caught up in the "fluffy" syndrome, more cats and dogs get squished on the highways because the people that "LOVE" them and "CARE" for them let them get out and wander around or just get tired of them and get rid of them.

Give me a break. We have thousands of people dead in a natural disaster and these morons are worried about someone shooting a cat!


Reply 21 - Posted by: RUReadyY3K, 12/30/2004 1:57:57 PM

I have nothing against animals, I love to eat them (not cats though, I don't like chow mein) but to tie up the Federal Court System due to animal cruelty laws just illustrates how silly we have become.


Reply 25 - Posted by: pensom2, 12/30/2004 2:13:25 PM

That does it for me: I'm gonna go spend some money at Walmart.


Reply 28 - Posted by: columba, 12/30/2004 3:55:45 PM

Actually, I love cats. They tase a little like chicken.


Reply 29 - Posted by: JrSample, 12/30/2004 4:53:36 PM

Cats are the handmaidens of Satan.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Matt, 12/30/2004 5:34:04 PM

This is a pile of nothing. It was just a cat for God's sake. With all the important problems in the world, why would anyone worry about this silly incident. Use some common sense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. This is a site that worships Bush, who doesn't like
cats. They are just following the dictates of their savior-in-chief.

I don't know who are the loonier, Lucianne fanatics or the freepers follies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Cats aren't slavish.
George prefers slavish.

Although, personally, I don't think he likes the dog much, either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. Reminds me of the cop that shot the dog hit by a car to "end it's
suffering".

So a couple of hours later, a vet goes to put another dead animal in the freezer, and there is the dog, still in the trash bag, standing up shivering in the freezer. (He recovered from BOTH the car hit and the gun shot and and was claimed by his owner and treated and taken home.)

That's why I am against this crap, half the time the p.o.s's can't even shoot a gun right.

That's why the Laotian guy knocked off six of 'em before they knew what they hell happened.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
2. Serial killers start with cats.
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 12:57 AM by aquart
And as a rescuer, the phrase "just a cat" is amazingly repellent.

Frist-like, in fact.

Also, did you catch the reference to "songbirds"? Let's not remember that feral cats keep the RODENT population down.

And it's a flat lie that a feral cat will kill a housecat. Frequently they become best buds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. You're right about Frist
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 01:02 AM by Erika
He admitted to lying to humane shelters when "adopting cats". He said he would give them a good home but used them for medical experiments instead. Typical of Republican values and someone they would choose as a leader.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. this is why we need to pass laws on a state level
to keep shelters from selling animals for research. Dumbass Frist probably didn't even have to lie about it, as many states allow this...but being a republican, it was just in his nature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. another lie
"Once truly feral, they cannot be returned to domestic status"

I rescued a momma cat and her 4 kittens that were living out of the laundry room in my apartment complex.

It took several weeks but they are the sweetest things you could ever love.

Our original plan was the domesticate them and then find homes but my mother became so attached to them we had to keep them.

One cat did get out, but ended up returning a few days later and was none the worse for wear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
18. Sounds like your momma cat was a dumpee.
That's different. There's a time limit for domestication of kittens and if it isn't done by then, the cat will never be affectionate. My mother has ferals. They live inside, eat her food, sleep on her feet, but she can't pet them. That's why it's recommended that kittens be socialized by handling as soon as possible.

We had a momma cat bring her kittens to us. They didn't want to be touched, but we cornered them in the bathroom and began a process of handling them until we got purrs. THEN we were able to place them. The momma, who seems to be a traumatized dumpee, hangs with the ferals and doesn't allow petting.

We're about to have more kittens. An unbelievably pregnant very hungry dumpee has moved in. She's either going to give birth or burst.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #2
13. Feral cats...
kill millions of birds every year...hell, pet cats kill millions of birds every year! My birds are just as important as anybody's cat.

I'm not shooting anybody's cat, I love cats, but I don't understand why cat owners don't follow state and local laws in every state that say animal owners MUST keep their animals on their own property. I've told people to keep their cats home and they look at me like I'm crazy. "Cats just roam around." Well, dogs will just roam, too.
But they're not supposed to. Cats get eaten by coyotes, owls, racoons, and other cats, too. Not to mention hit by cars.

Some sweet old lady lets the cat out for the night, Fluffy terrorizes the neighborhood, and the old lady can't understand why somebody wants to string Fluffy up! Same sweet old lady calls the cops if she sees a dog loose in the neighborhood.

Housecats live longer and don't hurt other creatures.

You got a mouse problem? Find a solution that doesn't eat my birds, shit in my garden, or leave muddy footprints on my newly-washed car.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. Plus, it's unsafe for cats to let them outdoors.
I used to live in a very rural area. People let their cats and their dogs roam freely. They got into everything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:07 AM
Response to Original message
8. And that folks is a perfect example of the difference between Democrats
and Republicans. To them it is "just a cat". Respect for life, eh? And they freak out if you say its "just a clump of cells", or "just a petrie dish"! This is why we cannot befriend them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
22. "Life" is only worth something to repukes when:
(1) It's in the womb
or (2) It's a corporate slave
or (3) It's a warm body for cannon fodder

Other than that, they couldn't care less
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:10 AM
Response to Original message
9. I have to agree with some of the freepers on this one...
It's a cat and I don't think it should be a felony for this. The amount of money we're going to spend on these people who only killed one cat (not through torture) is ridiculous and can be spent better elsewhere. What's really the difference between this and shooting a deer for a trophy?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. To equate killing a cat with a deer is ridiculous
Many people, regardless of politics, do not believe in hunting for the purpose of trophies, especially when "hunters" use assault weapons in the kill.

Ask any child how they would like their kitty or their cat to be used for medical experimentation to get a true reading on the value the family holds for cats.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. Isn't life, life? They're both wild animals.
And I don't agree with the killing, btw. I was just saying it does not strike me as something more serious than... battery for example.

We're not talking about family kitties.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Does the fact that this is against the law not bother you?
Does the fact that discharging a firearm this close to a public place breaks even more laws not bother you?

I am always entertained by the recurring situation on Animal Cops/Precinct when they go to arrest the person and surprise, surprise, they are already in jail, or they run them for cruelty, and they already have a warrant(s), or they go to consficate animals for neglect and find evidence of dog-fighting along with serious amounts of drugs.

It don't happen in a vaccum, and this is why they need to go ahead and book these folks.

We can get some good community service out of these assholes too, and get their priors started so jailing them on down the road in their future life of crime and anti-social behavior will be easier each time.

Plus there is a rock-solid link between animal cruelty and domestic violence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. Yes, firearms in a public places do bother me...
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 01:52 AM by purduejake
But that is not what they were charged with and that is not what I was arguing about. If they torture animals, that's one thing. If they beat their girlfriends, that's another. But spending perhaps tens of thousands of dollars or more to lock them up is not worth the money.

Again, what they did is wrong and that is not what I am arguing. I just think the punishment is too harsh for the crime.

edit: Oh, and I never said it shouldn't be against the law.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:53 AM
Response to Original message
15. this will probably strike a chord with a lot of DUers, sadly
they can all join the horrid old couple in Lovecraft's "The Cats of Ulthar"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Why? Are there killer cats there?
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 01:59 AM by purduejake
See what happens if we let feral cats be?

edit: typo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
17. Something I've noticed about most gun-related and RW forums
Any time a topic that contains the word "cat" is posted, it attracts responses from juvenile-minded males who brag about how much they hate cats.

I have yet to meet a person who hates (not just dislikes) cats who is someone I'd want to spend any time with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Never trust a person who hates cats.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 08:09 PM
Response to Original message
21. I have no idea what the Wal Mart thing is, nor would I ever defend the
L-dotters, but we live in a lakeside community where people from Tulsa (and who knows where else) bring unwanted pets to 'dump' them, apparently under the assumption they will be 'adopted.' Many of them are (we have taken in a total of 7 dogs and 3 cats the last 9 years) but almost everyone in this area has done the same thing...it costs a lot to get these animals spayed, neutered, shots and feeding, and we have done about as much as is humanly possible, yet these people continue to dump them. There are packs of both dogs and cats running wild and they have no means to feed themselves and therefore a very large percentage of them either starve or become road-kill (there is one road leading from the highway to a sort of triple-community), and the animals are somehow attracted to it, possibly people throw out tidbits of food on the way back from town?...I dunno, but it is a rare day to drive on it without seeing the sad sight of a run-over doggy or kitty.

And so, with no viable alternative (there is NO "animal control", SPCA, "dog/cat pound" in this county, we do sometimes shoot strays that show up in the yard. It's a horrific, terrible thing to do, but is it worse than being run down by a truck on the road or dying of starvation? And what makes it even worse is that we can't (couldn't ever) eat what we shoot, as we do with deer (which are also overpopulated.)

I don't know how to resolve this awful situation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
electric-eye Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
23. What a bunch of cowards - Christ would spit upon them
hopefully some of them are reading this thread

to kill for fun is a cowardly action no one with a speck of good or god about them would tolerate for a second

these inbred assholes that shoot animals for fun are too cowardly to be human.

I wish Karma all the speed in the world on this one. Jail is too good for them.

I say an eye for an eye.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr 20th 2024, 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC